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Kennedy Morrison

Social Security timing question - do S-Corp distributions count as earned income for retirement benefits?

Just turned 67 and trying to figure out the best time to claim my Social Security retirement benefits. My husband is 64 and still working full-time. I'm a 30% owner in an S-Corporation and take quarterly owner distributions, but don't receive a regular salary anymore since stepping back from day-to-day operations last year. My big question is: Do these S-Corp distributions count as 'earned income' for Social Security purposes? I'm trying to figure out if the earnings test would apply if I claim now, or if I should wait until my Full Retirement Age. Also wondering if there's any benefit to waiting until 70? My monthly benefit would be about $2,850 at FRA and around $3,550 if I wait until 70. My husband's benefit at his FRA would be lower than mine (about $2,100). Any advice on maximizing our combined benefits would be really appreciated!

S-corp distributions are NOT earned income for Social Security purposes! Only actual wages reported on W-2 are counted for the earnings test. Distributions are considered a return on investment, not earnings. So if you're not taking a salary and only getting distributions, you won't trigger the earnings test limit. As for waiting, the 8% per year increase from FRA to 70 is pretty substantial. Since you mentioned your benefit is higher than your husband's, it might make sense for you to delay to 70 if possible, especially if you have longevity in your family. That way, whoever lives longer gets the maximum benefit.

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Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to know about the distributions. I wasn't sure if they counted the same as regular income since they do show up on my personal tax return. So I could essentially claim now and still receive distributions without any reduction, that's good news! Good point about the longevity factor - both my parents lived into their 90s, so maximizing that survivor benefit might be smart planning.

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r u SURE about that?? my brother in law has an s-corp and SSA counted his distributions when they calculated his earnings test last year. he had to pay back some benefits!

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There's often confusion about this. Your brother-in-law may have been taking both a salary AND distributions. SSA only counts the salary portion (W-2 income). But many S-Corp owners don't realize they should maintain a "reasonable salary" if they're actively working, and IRS might reclassify some distributions as wages if the salary is artificially low. That might explain what happened.

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I went through almost exactly this situation! The previous answers are mostly right - S-Corp distributions themselves aren't earned income for the earnings test. HOWEVER, the IRS and SSA look closely at S-Corps where owners work but take minimal/no salary while taking large distributions. They can reclassify those distributions as wages if they think you're trying to avoid payroll taxes. If you're truly not working in the business anymore, it's fine to just take distributions. But if you're still involved in operations and taking no salary, that could be problematic. For the claiming strategy - with your numbers, I'd suggest you wait until 70 and have your husband claim at his FRA. That way you maximize your benefit (which becomes the survivor benefit if you pass first) while still getting some income from his benefit sooner.

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That's very helpful context. I do occasionally consult on major decisions (maybe 5-10 hours a month), but I'm not involved in daily operations. Should I be taking some small salary to avoid problems? I really appreciate the claiming strategy advice too.

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Even for 5-10 hours monthly, I'd recommend a small but reasonable salary that reflects market rates for that limited work. Better safe than sorry when it comes to IRS scrutiny! A tax professional who specializes in S-Corps could give you specific guidance based on your exact situation.

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The previous replies cover the S-Corp question well, but I want to add something about maximizing your combined benefits. Since your benefit is substantially higher, another strategy to consider: 1. Your husband could file for his benefits at 64 (now) 2. You could file a restricted application for SPOUSAL benefits only (available to people born before Jan 2, 1954) 3. This lets you collect 50% of his FRA benefit while letting YOUR retirement benefit grow until 70 4. At 70, switch to your maximum benefit This works ONLY if you were born before that 1954 cutoff date. If so, it's free money while you wait to maximize your own benefit.

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Unfortunately I was born in 1958, so I don't think that strategy works for me. But thanks for mentioning it - maybe it will help someone else reading this thread!

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My brother tried to claim SS while taking s-corp distributions and it was a NIGHTMARE!!! They kept sending confusing letters and every time he called SS he got different answers and waited on hold for HOURS. Some agents said distributions count, others said they don't. Took him 8 months to straighten out!!! The whole system is designed to confuse older people I swear

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I hadn't heard of that service before! I'll check it out because I've already tried calling SSA twice about this and got disconnected both times after waiting 45+ minutes. Thanks for the tip.

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Just want to clarify something that others have hinted at but not directly stated: the SSA and IRS don't always see eye-to-eye on S-Corp distributions. IRS is primarily concerned with proper tax collection. SSA is looking at what constitutes earnings for benefit calculations. In practical terms, this means that while distributions aren't counted as earnings for the Social Security earnings test, there's a separate issue of whether your compensation structure is reasonable. If you're not truly retired from the business, the IRS could challenge your lack of salary. It gets complicated fast!

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I really appreciate everyone's insights here! After reading all your responses, I'm leaning toward claiming at 70 to maximize my benefit. I'll also talk to my accountant about setting up a small salary for the limited consulting work I still do for the S-Corp, just to be safe with the IRS. For anyone reading this later with a similar question - it seems the short answer is: S-Corp distributions do NOT count as earned income for the Social Security earnings test, but make sure your overall compensation structure is reasonable if you're still involved in the business at all.

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Great summary! One additional point to consider - since you're planning to wait until 70, make sure to apply for Medicare Part A and B when you turn 65 (even though you're not claiming Social Security yet). Many people don't realize that Medicare enrollment isn't automatic if you delay Social Security benefits, and missing the initial enrollment window can result in permanent late penalties. Also, if your S-Corp provides health insurance, you'll want to coordinate that transition carefully. The Medicare decision is separate from your Social Security timing strategy, but it's easy to overlook when you're focused on optimizing benefits.

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Thank you for bringing up the Medicare point! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. So I need to enroll in Medicare at 65 regardless of when I claim Social Security? I assumed they were tied together. This is exactly the kind of detail that's easy to miss when you're focused on the benefit timing strategy. Do you know if there are any other deadlines or enrollment periods I should be aware of for someone in my situation?

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Yes, Medicare enrollment is separate from Social Security! You have a 7-month Initial Enrollment Period that starts 3 months before you turn 65. If you have qualifying employer coverage (like through your S-Corp), you may be able to delay Part B without penalty, but Part A is usually free so most people take it right away. There's also the Annual Open Enrollment (Oct 15 - Dec 7) for changing plans, and Special Enrollment Periods if you lose other coverage. The key thing is avoiding gaps that could trigger late enrollment penalties. I'd suggest talking to someone at Medicare.gov or calling 1-800-MEDICARE closer to your 65th birthday to review your specific situation with the S-Corp coverage.

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