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Social Security timing dilemma - take at FRA or delay until 70 while working until 75?

Hello SS experts! I'm trying to figure out the optimal strategy for claiming my Social Security benefits given my particular situation. I'm turning 67 in December (reaching my FRA), but I'm planning to continue working full-time until I'm at least 73, possibly 75. My wife is 61 and works part-time with income about 40% of mine. I've been fortunate with my health (managing type 2 diabetes well) and have prepared somewhat for retirement: - About $435K in my 401(k) and still contributing 15% of salary - Recently purchased a $310K term life policy with my wife as beneficiary - Have a separate $25K burial insurance policy The SS benefit calculator shows approximately $3,100/month if I claim at FRA versus around $3,900/month if I wait until 70. That's roughly $800 difference monthly. What's the smartest play here? Should I take benefits at FRA even though I'll continue working (and potentially have some benefits withheld due to earnings limit)? Or delay until 70 to maximize the monthly amount? And how should I factor in survivor benefits for my wife? Really appreciate any insights or strategies!

Since you plan to work until at least 73, delaying until 70 is almost certainly your best option. You'll maximize your lifetime benefit, and more importantly, your wife's potential survivor benefit. The survivor benefit is 100% of what you were receiving, so the $800 difference becomes crucial if you pass first. The 8% annual delayed retirement credits between FRA and 70 are essentially a guaranteed return you can't match elsewhere.

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Thanks! I hadn't fully considered the survivor benefit angle. So if I understand correctly, if I wait until 70 to claim and then pass away, my wife would get my full $3,900 benefit rather than her own (presumably smaller) benefit?

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ABSOLUTELY DELAY TILL 70!! I'm in a similar situation (worked till 74) and the math is CLEAR if you don't NEED the money now. Every year you wait past FRA gives you an 8% PERMANENT increase (plus COLA adjustments). That's GUARANTEED. Show me where else you get 8% guaranteed return! Plus what the other poster said about survivor benefits is key - you're essentially buying your wife a better insurance policy by waiting.

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I hear what you're saying about the 8% increase, but what about the opportunity cost? OP would miss out on 3 years of payments ($3,100 × 36 = $111,600) while waiting. It takes more than 11 years of collecting that extra $800/month just to break even on the missed payments. That's not even considering what that money could do if invested. Not saying you're wrong, just that it's not as clear-cut as people make it seem.

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my dad faced this exact situation and took it at FRA even though he was still working. his logic was "bird in the hand" approach. he said he'd rather have the money now than gamble on living long enough for the higher amount to pay off. but he was in worse health than you sound like you are.

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This is exactly what I was thinking! Why wait? None of us know how long we have. Take the money and enjoy it or invest it yourself. I took mine at 62 and have zero regrets!

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There's actually a mathematical calculation called the "break-even point" that can help you decide. Based on the $800 difference you mentioned between FRA and age 70 benefits: 1. By claiming at FRA, you'd collect about $111,600 over those 3 years ($3,100 × 36 months) 2. After age 70, you'd receive $800 less every month for the rest of your life 3. It would take approximately 139.5 months (11.6 years) to reach the break-even point ($111,600 ÷ $800 = 139.5) So mathematically, if you expect to live beyond age 81-82, delaying until 70 provides more lifetime income. The average life expectancy for a 67-year-old male is approximately 85, so probability favors delaying. Your good health despite diabetes supports this approach. For spousal benefits, your working wife should claim her own benefit when appropriate. When you pass away, she can switch to the survivor benefit based on your record if it's higher.

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Thank you for breaking down the math so clearly. The break-even point of 81-82 is really helpful context. Both my parents lived into their late 80s, so longevity seems to run in my family. Definitely leaning toward waiting until 70 now.

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So here's a follow-up question: What happens with the earnings test if I claim at FRA? I know there's an earnings limit that could reduce my benefits if I claim before FRA, but since I'll be at FRA in December, would I face any benefit reductions if I claim then but continue working full-time?

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Great question! Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, the earnings test no longer applies. You can earn unlimited income without any reduction to your Social Security benefits. If you claim exactly at your FRA in December, you would not face any earnings test restrictions going forward, regardless of how much you continue to earn through age 75.

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i think ur overlooking something important. with that much retirement savings + still working + life insurance, do u actually need the bigger SS check? might make more sense to take the money at FRA and spend it enjoying life with ur wife rather than delaying. u only live once!

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That's an interesting perspective! We're actually pretty comfortable with our current income, which is why I'm viewing this more as a long-term planning decision rather than addressing an immediate need. But you raise a good point about balancing future planning with enjoying the present.

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Has ANYONE mentioned the tax implications?? If you're still working full-time AND collecting SS, up to 85% of your benefits could be TAXABLE depending on your combined income! This is another reason to DELAY until you're actually retired or at least working less.

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This is absolutely correct. With your full-time income plus Social Security benefits, you would almost certainly have 85% of your benefits subject to federal income tax. This tax consideration does strengthen the case for delaying until closer to when you stop working, as it effectively reduces the real value of benefits received while earning a substantial income.

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Honestly all this math and planning is great but nobody can predict how long they'll live. The perfect plan means nothing if you pass away at 71. My husband delayed and then only collected for 14 months before he passed. I wish we'd taken the money earlier and gone on that Alaska cruise we always talked about. Just something to think about.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. That's a heartbreaking perspective and definitely gives me something to think about. There is certainly a quality of life consideration that can't be captured in pure mathematics. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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