Social Security dilemma - take spousal benefits at FRA or wait until 70 for maximum benefit?
I need some solid advice about my Social Security strategy. My wife started collecting her SS retirement at 70 and gets about $3,300/month. I'm approaching my full retirement age (66.8) in about 4 months and would get around $3,400 at FRA. If I wait until 70, my benefit would increase to approximately $4,000. We're both still working, which complicates things. I'm trying to figure out the best approach - should I: 1. File for spousal benefits at my FRA (getting half of my wife's amount) 2. Wait until 70 to maximize my own benefit If I go with option 1, would I still be able to switch to my own higher benefit ($4k) when I turn 70? Or does filing for spousal benefits lock me into something lower? I know there were rule changes around restricted applications a few years back, and I'm confused about how this all works now. Any insights from those who've navigated this?
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Ruby Knight
I went through something similar last year with my husband's benefits. If you were born before January 2, 1954, you can still file a restricted application for spousal benefits at FRA and then switch to your own higher benefit at 70. But if you were born after that date (which it sounds like you might be), this option is no longer available—the deemed filing rule means you'll be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for when you apply. Check exactly when you were born as that's the critical factor here.
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Nina Chan
•Thanks for this info! I was born in March 1957, so it sounds like I'm in the "newer" rules category. So if I understand correctly, I can't take spousal now and then switch to my own later? That's disappointing.
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Diego Castillo
The previous commenter is correct about the rule change. Since you were born after January 2, 1954, you can't file a restricted application for just spousal benefits. When you file, you'll be deemed to be filing for all benefits you're eligible for, and you'll receive the higher of either your own retirement benefit or your spousal benefit (which would be up to 50% of your wife's PIA, not her increased benefit amount). Important note: your wife's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) is NOT the $3,300 she receives now. That's her age 70 increased amount. Her PIA would be the amount she would have received at her FRA. So your spousal benefit would be 50% of her PIA, which is likely closer to $2,500. Since your own benefit at FRA ($3,400) is already higher than what you'd get as a spouse, there's no advantage to filing for spousal benefits. Your best strategy is likely to wait until 70 to maximize your own benefit, especially since you're both still working and don't need the income immediately.
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Nina Chan
•This makes so much sense now! I didn't realize her PIA would be different from what she's currently receiving. So basically, I'd get even less than I was calculating as a spousal benefit. Definitely seems like waiting until 70 is my best bet then. Thank you for breaking this down!
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Logan Stewart
The 50% spousal benefit is ONLY based on her FRA amount not her age 70 amount. And if ur already getting $3400 on your own that's higher than any spousal benefit you could get. Wait till 70 if u can afford it!
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Mikayla Brown
•This is what I did - waited til 70. Best decision ever. That extra $$ adds up fast and it's guaranteed income for LIFE.
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Sean Matthews
You're in a great position actually. Since both of you are still working, you don't immediately need the Social Security income. Given that your own benefit at FRA ($3,400) would already exceed any spousal benefit you could receive (which would be at most half of your wife's PRIMARY insurance amount, not her age 70 amount), and your benefit at 70 would be significantly higher at $4,000, the financially optimal strategy is clear: wait until 70 to claim your own retirement benefit. Each year you delay beyond FRA increases your benefit by 8%, which is essentially a guaranteed return on investment that you can't find anywhere else. Plus, if you're the higher earner, maximizing your benefit also maximizes any potential survivor benefit for your wife should you predecease her. Since you're continuing to work, also remember that if you have any years of high earnings now, they might replace lower-earning years in your benefit calculation, potentially increasing your benefit even more.
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Nina Chan
•Great point about the survivor benefits - I hadn't thought about that angle. Since we're both still working, waiting does seem like the smart move. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on some strategy that would let me double-dip somehow. Sounds like those loopholes are closed now.
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Ali Anderson
I had SO MUCH TROUBLE getting an actual person at SSA to explain this to me when I was in a similar situation!!! Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed what others here are saying - for those of us born after 1954, we can't do the restricted application anymore. You have to take ALL benefits you're eligible for. Since your own benefit is higher than any spousal benefit would be, waiting until 70 makes the most financial sense if you can afford to wait.
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Nina Chan
•Thanks for the tip about Claimyr. I've been avoiding calling SSA because of the horror stories about wait times. Might give this a try if I have more questions. And thanks for confirming what everyone's saying about the rule changes.
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Mikayla Brown
wrong wrong wrong!!! u can ABSOLUTELY file for spousal and switch later! my brother did this last year!
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Sean Matthews
•Your brother may have been born before January 2, 1954, which would allow him to file a restricted application. The rules changed with the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. Anyone born on or after January 2, 1954 is subject to deemed filing rules, which means when they file for one benefit, they're deemed to be filing for all benefits they're eligible for at that time.
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Zadie Patel
Does anyone know if the earnings test applies here? Since they're both still working, wouldn't some benefits get withheld anyway? I got confused about this part when I filed.
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Diego Castillo
•Great question. Yes, the earnings test would apply if claiming before FRA. However, since the original poster is talking about claiming at FRA (66+8 months) or later, the earnings test would not apply. After FRA, you can earn any amount without SS benefits being reduced. This is yet another advantage of waiting until at least FRA to claim benefits.
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Nina Chan
Thanks everyone for the helpful advice! I wanted to follow up with one more question - if I do wait until 70 to maximize my benefit, and something happens to me before then, would my wife receive anything based on my record? Or am I risking leaving money on the table by waiting?
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Ruby Knight
•If you were to pass away before claiming, your wife would be eligible for survivor benefits based on what your benefit would have been at the time of your death, including any delayed retirement credits you had earned up to that point. So you're not leaving money on the table by waiting. In fact, waiting helps maximize what she could receive as a survivor benefit if needed. But since your wife's own benefit is quite substantial ($3,300), she would only receive survivor benefits if they exceeded her own benefit. She doesn't get both - just the higher amount.
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Logan Stewart
My sister tried doing wut ur talking about with her husbands record and SSA said NOPE cant do it anymore!!
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Mikayla Brown
•Same happened to my neighbor! They changed ALL the rules and didnt tell anyone!!! 😡
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Sean Matthews
One additional consideration: tax implications. Since both of you are working and potentially drawing Social Security, be aware of how this might affect the taxation of your benefits. Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your combined income. This is another reason why delaying benefits while you continue to work can be advantageous - you avoid having benefits that would be subject to higher taxation during your working years.
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Nina Chan
•Great point about the tax implications. We're both in fairly high tax brackets since we're still working, so I guess that's another reason to delay taking benefits if possible. I appreciate all this helpful advice!
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