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Zoe Dimitriou

Should I take my Social Security benefits before FRA if my husband is still working with earnings above the maximum taxable limit?

I've been spending weeks trying to figure out the best time to claim my Social Security retirement benefits. The SS calculator suggests I should take my benefits about two years before my Full Retirement Age, since I'm the lower earner in our marriage. But I'm wondering if this advice changes if my husband (who's the same age as me) continues working until his FRA or even age 70? He earns above the maximum taxable earnings limit (is it called the contribution and benefit base?). Does his continued high income affect when I should file? Would it be better for me to wait until my own FRA despite what the calculator says? The whole spousal benefit thing is confusing me too. Thanks for any insights!

QuantumQuest

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The SS calculator is likely suggesting you claim early because as the lower earner, you'd eventually get a spousal benefit when your husband files (assuming his benefit would be more than twice yours). Your husband's continued work won't directly impact your benefit eligibility, but there are a few important considerations: 1. If you'll be collecting spousal benefits eventually, claiming your own reduced benefits early and then switching to spousal later can make financial sense 2. The maximum taxable earnings limit (the contribution and benefit base) just means your husband is paying the maximum SS taxes, which is good for his future benefit calculation 3. His continued earnings won't reduce your benefits because the earnings test only applies to the person who's working while collecting

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Thanks for explaining! So if I understand correctly, I can take my own reduced benefit at 64, then when he files at 70, I'd get a spousal boost if that amount is higher than my own benefit? That seems like a good deal since I'd be getting something for those 6 years rather than waiting.

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the calculater is probly saying that cuz if u take urs early then when ur husbend claims HIS benefits later u can get the sposel benefit instead if its higher than urs. my sister in law did this exact thing!!!

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Thanks for sharing about your sister-in-law! Did she have any regrets about claiming early? I'm worried about making a mistake we can't undo.

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Mei Zhang

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What the calculator isn't factoring in is your complete financial picture. While mathematically it often makes sense for the lower earner to claim earlier, there are other considerations: 1. Tax implications: If your husband is still earning high income, your SS benefits could be up to 85% taxable when filing jointly 2. Provisional income: His high earnings + your benefits might push you into a higher tax bracket 3. Medicare IRMAA: Higher income means higher Medicare premiums when you reach 65 The maximum taxable earnings limit ($173,100 in 2025) just means he's maxing out his Social Security contributions, but his actual income could still impact your tax situation when you claim.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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I hadn't even thought about the tax implications! We're going to have to reconsider this with our tax situation in mind. His income is well above that maximum taxable amount you mentioned.

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Liam McGuire

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I've spent hours on the phone with SSA about this EXACT situation! The term you're looking for is the "maximum taxable earnings" or "wage base limit" ($173,100 for 2025). Here's what nobody tells you: The SS calculator is ONLY looking at maximizing your lifetime benefits in isolation. It doesn't account for: - Family maximum benefit considerations - The fact that your husband's earnings will continue improving his AIME calculation - Potentially different life expectancies The optimal strategy for married couples is often for lower earner to claim early and higher earner to delay until 70. Each year your husband delays past FRA increases his benefit by 8%, which also increases YOUR survivor benefit if he passes away first. I was getting nowhere with SSA until I used Claimyr to reach them directly (https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU). Their service connects you with an actual agent in minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. The agent I spoke with confirmed this strategy made sense in our situation.

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Amara Eze

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wait so is it better to take early then? im so confused cuz some ppl say wait and others say take it early. does the SS office even know the right answers??

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ACTUALY the SS calculations are WRONG a lot of times!!!! My neighbor took her benefits early because the "calculator" said so and regretted it BIG TIME. They don't tell you about the HUGE tax hit when your spouse makes good money. HALF my SS is taxed away because my husband still works!!!! 😡

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NeonNomad

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The taxation isn't because you claimed early though - that's just standard Social Security taxation which applies regardless of when you claim. Up to 85% of benefits can be taxable depending on your combined income. That would happen even if you waited until 70 to claim if your household income remained high.

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NeonNomad

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The term you're looking for is the "maximum taxable earnings" or "contribution and benefit base" - that's the income cap for Social Security tax purposes ($173,100 in 2025). Your situation is actually quite common, and yes, the calculator is likely recommending the mathematically optimal path. Here's why: 1. As the lower earner claiming early, you start receiving benefits for those years 2. When your husband eventually files, you'll get an additional amount if the spousal benefit (50% of his FRA amount) exceeds your own reduced benefit 3. Meanwhile, his benefit grows by 8% per year beyond FRA, which maximizes both his retirement benefit AND your potential survivor benefit if he passes away first The strategy is sometimes called "claim now, claim more later" and often works well for couples with significant earnings differences.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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I appreciate the explanation! So I wouldn't be penalized for taking benefits while he's still working with a high income? Does his income affect our household income limits or anything like that?

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Amara Eze

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my friend just went thru this and the social security office told her to definatley take hers early since her husband makes more. they said its free money while waiting for the bigger benefit later! but then again the goverment always gives different answers to everyone lol

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Mei Zhang

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While taking benefits early can work for many couples, I wouldn't call it "free money" - there are tradeoffs. Your friend's situation might be different regarding taxation, other income sources, health status, and life expectancy. The optimal claiming strategy varies significantly based on individual circumstances, which is why personalized analysis is important.

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QuantumQuest

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To address your follow-up questions: Yes, you'd take your own reduced benefit at 64, then potentially get a spousal boost when your husband files at 70. However, some important clarifications: 1. The spousal boost would only happen if 50% of your husband's PIA (his benefit at his FRA) is greater than your own benefit at your FRA 2. Your husband's earnings while you're collecting won't reduce YOUR benefits (the earnings test only applies to the person who is both working AND collecting) 3. However, your combined income will affect how much of your Social Security is taxed Based on your comments about his high income, I'd suggest consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies. The taxation aspect might significantly impact the optimal decision in your case.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. We'll definitely talk to a financial advisor before making any decisions. I had no idea the tax implications could be so significant!

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Omar Hassan

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on your Medicare decisions down the road. If you're planning to claim Social Security at 64, you'll need to consider how this affects your Medicare enrollment timeline at 65. Also, since your husband earns above the maximum taxable limit, his Social Security benefit calculation is already maxed out for the current year in terms of the formula. Any additional earnings beyond $173,100 won't increase his Social Security benefit further for 2025, but they will continue to improve his highest 35 years of earnings if this year replaces a lower-earning year in his calculation. The key insight many people miss is that Social Security claiming is really about optimizing household income over your joint lifetimes, not just individual benefits. Given the significant income disparity you've described, the early claiming strategy likely makes sense, but definitely run the numbers on the tax impact first. You might find that even with higher taxes, the extra years of benefits still come out ahead mathematically.

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This is really helpful context about Medicare timing that I hadn't considered! So if I claim Social Security at 64, does that automatically trigger anything with Medicare at 65, or are they completely separate decisions? I'm trying to understand all the moving pieces here before we make any choices. The point about optimizing household income over our joint lifetimes really resonates - it seems like there are so many interconnected factors beyond just the basic benefit calculations.

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Ethan Wilson

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Medicare and Social Security are completely separate decisions! Claiming SS at 64 doesn't automatically enroll you in Medicare - that's still a separate enrollment process that begins 3 months before you turn 65. However, there's an important connection: if you're receiving Social Security benefits when you turn 65, you'll be automatically enrolled in Medicare Parts A and B (unless you opt out of Part B). The key thing to watch for is if you have employer health coverage through your husband's job that might be better than Medicare - in that case you'd want to decline Part B to avoid the premium and potential late enrollment penalties later. Definitely coordinate these decisions together since the timing can affect your overall healthcare costs and coverage options.

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Zachary Hughes

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The strategy you're considering makes a lot of sense mathematically, especially given the significant earnings difference between you and your husband. Since he's earning above the maximum taxable limit ($173,100 for 2025), his Social Security benefit is already being calculated at the highest possible level for this year. Here's what I'd focus on in your situation: 1. **Spousal benefit timing**: When your husband files at 70, you'd potentially receive the higher of your own benefit OR 50% of his full retirement age benefit amount (not his delayed retirement credit amount). Since his benefit will be substantial, this could mean a nice boost for you. 2. **Survivor benefit consideration**: By having your husband delay until 70, his benefit grows by 32% beyond his FRA due to delayed retirement credits. This also maximizes your potential survivor benefit if he passes away first - a crucial factor many couples overlook. 3. **Tax planning opportunity**: Since you mentioned his income is well above the taxable limit, you'll definitely want to model the tax impact. Your Social Security benefits will likely be 85% taxable given your combined income, but even with taxes, claiming early often still provides a net positive over the claiming period. The calculator is probably right, but definitely run a comprehensive analysis that includes taxes before deciding. Have you considered using a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in Social Security optimization?

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Romeo Quest

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown, thank you! The survivor benefit angle is something I hadn't fully considered but it makes total sense. If my husband delays to 70 and gets those delayed retirement credits, that would protect me financially if something happens to him later. I'm definitely leaning toward the early claiming strategy now, but you're absolutely right about needing a thorough tax analysis first. Do you have any recommendations for finding a fee-only advisor who really understands Social Security optimization? It seems like there's a lot of variability in expertise even among financial professionals.

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