Will Social Security spousal benefits be based on my husband's FRA amount or his age 70 benefit?
I'm trying to plan our retirement income and I'm confused about how spousal benefits work. My husband plans to delay claiming his Social Security until he turns 70 to maximize his benefit. I'm 58 and have a much smaller earnings record. I know I can claim spousal benefits, but I'm not sure if they'll be calculated based on his full retirement age (FRA) benefit amount or the higher amount he'll receive at 70 after delayed retirement credits. I've read conflicting information online - some sites say spousal benefits are capped at 50% of his FRA benefit regardless of when he claims, others suggest otherwise. Can someone who understands this explain it clearly? We're trying to decide if I should claim on my own record first or wait.
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Freya Collins
Your spousal benefit will be based on your husband's FRA amount, not his age 70 increased amount. The 50% spousal benefit calculation is always based on the worker's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount at their full retirement age. The delayed retirement credits your husband earns by waiting until 70 don't increase your spousal benefit. This is a common confusion point! The only way you'd benefit from his delayed filing is if you later claim survivor benefits after his passing.
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Lucas Schmidt
•Thank you for explaining! So even though he's waiting until 70 to increase his own benefit, my spousal benefit won't increase beyond 50% of his FRA amount? That's disappointing, but helpful to know for our planning.
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LongPeri
my mother in law did this with my father in law. he waited till 70 but her spousal was still only based on his FRA amount which i think was 67 for him. she was pretty upset when she found out waiting didnt help her benefit at all!!
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Lucas Schmidt
•Oh no! That's exactly what I was worried about. Did she end up filing on her own record first and then switching to spousal later, or did she just wait and file for spousal when your father-in-law claimed?
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Oscar O'Neil
I worked at SSA for 15 years, and this question came up constantly. Here's the definitive answer: 1. Spousal benefits are based on the worker's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is their benefit amount at full retirement age 2. Delayed retirement credits (waiting past FRA to age 70) increase the worker's benefit by 8% per year but do NOT increase the spousal benefit amount 3. Your maximum spousal benefit is 50% of your husband's PIA 4. If you claim spousal benefits before YOUR full retirement age, your spousal benefit will be reduced One important note: If your husband hasn't filed for his own benefits yet, you cannot receive spousal benefits on his record (except in some divorce situations). So his decision to wait until 70 means you cannot claim spousal benefits until he files.
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Lucas Schmidt
•Thank you for this clear explanation! I didn't realize I couldn't even file for spousal benefits until he files for his own. That definitely changes our planning. Is there any workaround for this, or do I just have to wait?
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Oscar O'Neil
•Unfortunately, there's no workaround for this situation. The "file and suspend" strategy that once allowed this was eliminated by Congress in 2015. Your options are: 1. File on your own record when you reach your desired age (62+) 2. Wait until your husband files at 70, then file for spousal benefits 3. Convince your husband to file earlier (though this permanently reduces his benefit) When you eventually file for spousal benefits, you'll receive the higher of either your own benefit or the spousal amount (not both).
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Sara Hellquiem
This EXACT thing happened to us!! My husband waited till 70 to maximize his SS, and I was counting on getting half of THAT amount. Was I ever disappointed when I found out I only get half of his FRA amount! Nobody explains this clearly on the SSA website. I spent HOURS on hold trying to get someone to explain it to me. The whole system is designed to confuse us IMO.
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Liv Park
this is confusing to me too. so if he waits till 70 does that mean i have to wait till he's 70 to get any spousal benefit? im turning 62 next year but hes only 61.
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Leeann Blackstein
•Yes, that's exactly what it means. One spouse must file for their own benefits before the other can receive spousal benefits based on their record. So if your husband is waiting until 70 to file, you cannot receive spousal benefits until then. However, you could file for your own benefits at 62 if you want to, and then when he files at 70, you could switch to spousal benefits if they're higher (though they would be reduced because you filed for spousal before your FRA).
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LongPeri
does anyone know if this works the same way for survivor benefits? my friend's husband passed away and she thinks she gets more because he waited till 68 to claim
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Freya Collins
•Survivor benefits are completely different from spousal benefits! For survivor benefits, waiting DOES help the surviving spouse. If your husband delays claiming until 70, and then passes away, you would be eligible for his full age-70 benefit amount as a survivor benefit (subject to reductions if you claim before your FRA). This is one of the main reasons many financial advisors recommend that the higher-earning spouse delay benefits - it creates a larger survivor benefit.
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Ryder Greene
my advisor told me something totally different! he said I should definitely wait until my husband claims at 70 because I'd get a bigger spousal benefit! now I'm wondering what else he got wrong...
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Oscar O'Neil
•Your advisor unfortunately gave you incorrect information about Social Security rules, which happens quite frequently even with otherwise good financial advisors. Social Security has very specific and sometimes counterintuitive rules. This is why it's always good to verify directly with SSA or check the specific rules on ssa.gov when making these important decisions. Consider asking your advisor where they got their information, as this is a fundamental misunderstanding of how spousal benefits work.
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Leeann Blackstein
Here's another important factor to consider in your planning: If you claim your own benefits early (say at 62) and they're smaller than your potential spousal benefit, when your husband files at 70, you'll get a combination of benefits that equals the higher spousal amount. But since you claimed early, your spousal benefit will be permanently reduced based on YOUR age when you started receiving any benefits. So claiming early on your own record can permanently reduce your spousal benefits too.
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Lucas Schmidt
•I didn't realize that! So I need to consider not just his filing strategy but also how my own filing age affects the eventual spousal benefit. This is getting complicated, but I appreciate everyone's help. Seems like I should probably talk directly with SSA before making any decisions.
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