Can I claim spousal benefits if we both delay Social Security until our late 60s?
I've been reading up on Social Security spousal benefits and getting confused about our situation. My husband and I are planning our retirement and trying to maximize our benefits. He's always earned substantially more than me (about 3x my income). I turn 70 in 2027 and plan to delay claiming until then. My husband turns 68 in 2027 and wants to claim then. I've heard about spousal benefits being 50% of the higher earner's amount, but I'm not clear if this applies in our situation since we're both claiming so late. Can I still apply for the 50% spousal benefit in this scenario, or does that only work if I claim earlier? Would I get my own benefit plus something extra? We're trying to plan our income for 2027-2028 and this makes a big difference. Thanks for any help!
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Justin Chang
The short answer is no, you won't qualify for a spousal benefit in this scenario. When you claim at 70, you'll get 100% of your own benefit plus delayed retirement credits (an additional 8% per year from your Full Retirement Age to 70). Since your own benefit with those increases will almost certainly be higher than 50% of your husband's benefit, you won't receive a spousal benefit at all. Spousal benefits are only paid if they would be higher than your own benefit, and the SSA automatically pays you whichever is higher.
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Wesley Hallow
•Oh that makes sense! So I'd be getting my maximum possible benefit at 70 anyway. Would there be any advantage to me claiming earlier then, like at 67, and then switching to a spousal benefit when my husband claims at 68?
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Grace Thomas
The answer is it depends on the exact $$ amounts. If your own benefit at age 70 is LESS than 50% of your husbands benefit at age 68, then yes you'd get a combo payment that equals 50% of his. But if your own benefit is already higher than that 50% mark, u won't get any spousal amount. SSA pays the higher of the two.
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Justin Chang
•That's correct - and just to add a bit more detail, the spousal benefit doesn't earn delayed retirement credits beyond Full Retirement Age (unlike your own benefit which grows 8% per year until 70). So the maximum spousal benefit is 50% of your spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), regardless of when you claim it (as long as you're at or past your FRA).
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Hunter Brighton
My wife and I were in almost the same situation last year!!! The SSA tells you that you get the larger of either your own benefit OR the spousal benefit, not both added together. Since you're waiting till 70, your own benefit will have those nice delayed credits added. The spousal benefit caps at 50% of his PRIMARY INSURANCE AMOUNT (what he'd get at his full retirement age) - it doesn't include HIS delayed credits. Make sense?
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Wesley Hallow
•Thank you! That clarifies things a lot. I didn't realize the spousal benefit doesn't include his delayed credits. That definitely affects our calculations.
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Dylan Baskin
Everyone's giving you good information, but I think they're missing one possibility. If your own retirement benefit at age 70 is still less than 50% of your husband's PIA (his benefit at full retirement age, not his increased benefit at 68), then you WOULD receive a combination benefit. You'd get your own retirement benefit plus a spousal add-on that would bring your total benefit up to 50% of his PIA. Given the income difference you mentioned (him earning 3x what you did), this might actually be your situation.
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Wesley Hallow
•That's really helpful to know! Is there any way for us to figure out what our PIAs are before we actually apply? I'd love to run the numbers now rather than waiting until 2027.
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Dylan Baskin
Yes, definitely! Create an account at ssa.gov and you can see your earnings record and estimated benefits. The estimates will show what you'd receive at different ages. For the most accurate calculation, look at what you'd receive at your Full Retirement Age - that's your PIA. Then your husband's PIA multiplied by 50% is what you'd compare to your own benefit (with delayed credits) to see if you'd receive any spousal addition.
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Wesley Hallow
•Perfect, I'll do that this week. I have an account but haven't logged in for a while. Time to update our retirement projections!
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Lauren Wood
UGH I went through this EXACT thing last year and it took me FOREVER to get someone on the phone who could explain it properly!! My husband's benefit was way higher than mine too. No one ever bothers to explain these details until you're actually filing and then it's too late to plan properly!!
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Ellie Lopez
•If you're having trouble getting through to SSA on the phone, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation trying to understand my spousal benefit options, kept getting disconnected or waiting hours. Claimyr got me connected to an agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me a lot of frustration when I needed to get specific questions answered about my filing options.
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Chad Winthrope
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - don't forget to factor in survivor benefits in your planning. If your husband passes away first (statistically more likely since men typically have shorter lifespans), you would be eligible to receive his full benefit amount (including delayed credits) as a survivor benefit. This is another good reason for the higher earner to delay claiming as long as possible - it maximizes the survivor benefit for the remaining spouse.
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Wesley Hallow
•That's a really good point about survivor benefits. I hadn't thought about that angle at all. Thank you for bringing that up - it gives us another factor to consider.
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Grace Thomas
My neighbor said she got both her benefit AND her husbands!!! Why do u people say she can only get one???
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Justin Chang
•Your neighbor is likely receiving a survivor benefit, not a spousal benefit. If her husband passed away, she would be eligible for survivor benefits which can indeed be up to 100% of what her husband received. Spousal benefits (when both spouses are alive) max out at 50% of the higher earner's PIA and are only paid if higher than the person's own benefit.
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Hunter Brighton
My sister actually got a spousal benefit for 3 years and THEN switched to her own benefit when she hit 70. But that was under the old rules that changed in 2015 with the Bipartisan Budget Act. You can't do that strategy anymore unless you were born before January 2, 1954. Just mentioning it because there's a lot of outdated advice floating around from people who filed under the old rules!
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Wesley Hallow
•Thank you for pointing that out! I was born in 1957, so I definitely fall under the new rules. It's really helpful to know that some of the advice I might hear from slightly older friends could be outdated.
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