Social Security spousal benefits - Will I get 50% of husband's age 70 amount or FRA amount?
My husband plans to delay claiming his Social Security retirement benefits until he turns 70 to maximize his monthly amount. I'm trying to figure out how this affects what I would get as a spouse. If I claim spousal benefits, will I receive 50% of his age 70 increased rate or 50% of what his benefit would have been at his full retirement age (FRA)? I've heard conflicting information from friends. Some say spousal benefits are based on the higher amount he'll get at 70, but others insist it's only based on his FRA amount regardless of when he actually claims. This makes a big difference in our retirement planning - about $800/month difference based on my calculations! I tried calling the SSA office twice but got disconnected after waiting 45 minutes each time. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? I'm 63 now and trying to decide if I should claim on my own record now or wait and claim as a spouse when he files at 70.
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Aisha Abdullah
Your spousal benefit will be based on your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount he would receive at his full retirement age. It doesn't matter that he's waiting until 70 to claim - spousal benefits don't include the delayed retirement credits he'll earn by waiting. This is a common misunderstanding. The 50% spousal benefit is calculated using his FRA amount only. Your husband benefits from his delayed credits, but unfortunately, those increases don't factor into spousal benefit calculations.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Thank you for explaining this! That's disappointing but helps with our planning. So there's no advantage for me to wait until he files at 70 then? Should I just file on my own record when I reach my FRA?
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Ethan Wilson
i Think the other person is correct... my sister gets spousal and hers is based on her husbands FRA amount not his actual amount. she was super dissapointed when she found out but thats how it works i guess!!
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Thanks for sharing your sister's experience. That's two confirmations now, so I guess I need to adjust our budget projections downward. Did your sister file for her own benefits first, or did she only qualify for spousal?
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NeonNova
The previous responses are correct. Spousal benefits are based on 50% of the worker's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount payable at Full Retirement Age, regardless of when the worker actually claims benefits. However, there are other important considerations in your situation: 1. If you have your own work record, you'll always receive the higher of either your own benefit or the spousal benefit 2. If you claim spousal benefits before your own FRA, they'll be permanently reduced 3. You can't claim spousal benefits until your husband files for his own benefits 4. Once your husband passes away, you may be eligible for survivor benefits, which DO include any delayed retirement credits he earned by waiting until 70 Considering these factors, it might make sense to claim your own benefits at FRA and then switch to survivor benefits later if they would be higher.
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Yuki Tanaka
•This is so confusing! So if her husband dies she WOULD get his age 70 amount but while he's alive she only gets based on the lower amount?? That makes no sense! Why does SS make things so complicated!!
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Carmen Diaz
When my husband turned 70 last year, I learned this exact lesson the hard way. Been married 42 years and I worked part-time most of my life. Was counting on getting half his age 70 benefit but nope - just half of his FRA amount. Such a disappointment. My advice - definitely calculate both options (your own benefit vs spousal) because depending on your work history, your own might actually be better!
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Mateo Rodriguez
•I'm sorry you had that disappointing surprise! I worked full-time for about 25 years but had some lower-earning years mixed in. I'll definitely need to compare both options carefully now.
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Andre Laurent
Has anyone here successfully gotten through to SS recently? I've been trying to ask a similar question for WEEKS and can't get a real person on the phone. It's beyond frustrating!!! Their website doesn't answer my specific situation either.
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Aisha Abdullah
To answer your follow-up question - whether you should file on your own record at FRA - it really depends on your specific numbers. Since you've worked 25 years, you might find that your own benefit is close to or even higher than the spousal benefit. If your own benefit at FRA would be less than 50% of your husband's PIA, then waiting until he files at 70 to claim spousal benefits might make sense. But if your own benefit is higher, claim that when it makes sense for you. Remember that your own retirement benefit increases with delayed retirement credits too. So if your own benefit is close to the spousal amount, it might actually exceed the spousal benefit if you also wait to claim.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Thank you for this detailed explanation. I think I need to get my Social Security statement to see my exact numbers. If my benefit is close to the spousal amount, waiting and getting my own delayed credits might be the better strategy.
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Carmen Diaz
Just wanted to add on something important - even though spousal benefits are based on FRA amount, SURVIVOR benefits are different! When your spouse dies, the survivor gets the FULL amount the deceased was receiving, including those delayed retirement credits from waiting till 70. That's why many financial advisors suggest the higher earner delay till 70 - not for the spouse benefit but for the eventual survivor benefit.
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NeonNova
•This is an excellent point. The survivor benefit strategy is often overlooked in retirement planning. By waiting until 70, your husband is essentially buying you a higher "insurance policy" should he pass away first. Given women's generally longer life expectancy, this can significantly impact your financial security in later years.
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Andre Laurent
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE US!!! Why can't they just make one simple rule instead of all these complicated exceptions and special cases?? No wonder their phone lines are always jammed with people asking questions.
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Ethan Wilson
•For real!! I spent 3 hours on their website last week and left more confused than when i started lol
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Mateo Rodriguez
Thanks everyone for all this helpful information! Based on your advice, I'll: 1) Get my most recent SS statement to compare my benefit to the potential spousal benefit, 2) Look at the difference between claiming my own benefit at FRA versus waiting, and 3) Factor in the survivor benefit protection my husband's delayed claiming provides. This has been so much more helpful than the generic information on the SSA website. Would anyone recommend meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security, or is that unnecessary?
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NeonNova
•If your financial situation is complex (multiple income sources, substantial assets, etc.), a consultation with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies could be valuable. They can model different scenarios and help you optimize your combined benefits over your lifetime. However, if your situation is relatively straightforward, the information you've gathered here, combined with the calculations available on the SSA website, may be sufficient for making an informed decision. The key is understanding that this is not just about maximizing your monthly check now, but optimizing your benefits over your entire retirement.
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