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As someone who just went through this process with my own family, I want to emphasize something that saved us a lot of headaches - when you do contact SSA, ask them to run a "what-if" scenario calculation for you. They can show you exactly how different claiming strategies would affect both your benefits and your son's. One thing I learned is that the timing of when you claim can make a huge difference. Since your son is likely receiving DAC benefits on your deceased husband's record at 75% of his PIA, and those are protected from family maximum reductions, you might actually have more flexibility than you think. Also, keep detailed notes of every conversation with SSA - date, time, representative's name, and what they told you. I had three different reps give me three different answers about family maximums, so having everything documented helped when I had to escalate to a supervisor to get the correct information. The calculations can be complex, but once you get the right person who understands DAC benefits, they can walk you through all the scenarios step by step.
This is such great advice about asking for "what-if" scenarios! I'm definitely going to request that when I call SSA. The documentation tip is especially helpful - I've heard so many stories about getting inconsistent information from different representatives. It's reassuring to know that DAC benefits have those protections from family maximum reductions. Did you find that having all your documentation helped speed up the process when you did need to escalate to a supervisor? I'm trying to prepare myself for what might be a long process of getting clear answers about our specific situation.
I wanted to share something that might be helpful - when dealing with complex Social Security situations like yours, consider requesting a formal benefit estimate in writing rather than just calling. You can submit a request through your my Social Security account online or by visiting a local SSA office. This forces them to provide you with documented calculations rather than verbal estimates that might vary between representatives. Also, since you mentioned you're 62 and still working full-time, make sure to ask about the "do-over" rule if you do decide to claim survivor benefits early. If your financial situation changes or you get better information later, you have a limited window to withdraw your application and repay any benefits received, which could allow you to restart with a different strategy. The interaction between survivor benefits, your future retirement benefits, and your son's DAC benefits is definitely one of the more complex scenarios in Social Security. Don't feel bad about being confused - even SSA representatives sometimes need to consult with specialists for these multi-generational family maximum situations!
This is excellent advice about getting everything in writing! I never thought about requesting a formal benefit estimate through the online portal - that's so much smarter than relying on phone conversations that might be inconsistent. The "do-over" rule is also something I hadn't heard about before. Since I'm still working and not in immediate financial distress, having that safety net of being able to withdraw and restart could give me more confidence to test the waters with survivor benefits while I'm still employed. Do you know how long that withdrawal window typically lasts? I want to make sure I understand all my options before making any moves, especially with the family maximum complications involving my son's benefits.
Just wanted to add one more important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your wife is caring for your child who is under 16 or disabled, she could potentially receive survivor benefits immediately (regardless of her age) as a "mother's benefit" or "caregiver benefit." This benefit would be 75% of your PIA and wouldn't have the same age restrictions as regular survivor benefits. Also, don't forget that any unmarried children under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school, or any age if disabled before 22) would also be eligible for survivor benefits of 75% of your PIA each. These family benefits are subject to a family maximum, but it's something to factor into your overall planning. The planning you're doing now is really smart - having all this information ahead of time can make an incredibly difficult situation much more manageable for your wife.
Thanks for bringing up the mother's/caregiver benefit - that's such an important point that often gets overlooked! Even though the original poster didn't mention having minor children, this is crucial information for anyone in similar situations who might be reading this thread. It's reassuring to know that surviving spouses with young children don't have to wait until 60 to receive some support. The fact that you're thinking through all these scenarios really shows how much you care about your family's financial security.
This is such valuable information everyone is sharing! As someone who works with families going through these situations, I want to emphasize one key point that might not be obvious: the timing of when you pass away can significantly impact the survivor benefit calculation. Since you're 63 and haven't claimed yet, if something happened to you now, your wife's survivor benefit would be based on your current PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). But if you wait until, say, age 67 or 70, she'd get the benefit of any delayed retirement credits you've earned - which could be 24-32% higher than your PIA. However, there's a balance to consider: waiting longer means fewer years of potential survivor benefits. It might be worth running the numbers both ways - claiming earlier vs. waiting for delayed retirement credits - to see what maximizes the total lifetime benefit for your family situation. Also, make sure your wife knows where to find all the important documents she'd need (your Social Security number, marriage certificate, death certificate, etc.) and consider creating a simple guide for her about the steps to take with SSA. The last thing you want is for her to be searching for paperwork during an already difficult time.
This is excellent advice about the timing considerations! The point about delayed retirement credits potentially increasing survivor benefits by 24-32% is huge - that could mean thousands more per year for the surviving spouse. But you're absolutely right that it's a balancing act between maximizing the benefit amount versus the number of years it could be received. Creating that document guide is such a thoughtful suggestion too. I've seen families struggle just to locate basic paperwork during grief, and having everything organized ahead of time would be such a gift to a surviving spouse. Maybe include account information, contact details for SSA, and even a simple checklist of steps to take. The more you can handle the logistics now, the more your wife can focus on healing if the worst happens.
Great questions! I'll try to help based on what I learned when my mom went through this process: 1. There isn't a specific form to fill out beforehand - it's all handled during the phone appointment. The SSA rep will gather all the info and process the application during that call. They'll send any paperwork that needs signatures by mail. 2. For documents, definitely have ready: marriage certificate, death certificate, birth certificates (yours and spouse's), Social Security cards, last few years of tax returns, bank account info for direct deposit, and any military discharge papers if applicable. Also helpful to have your spouse's W-2s or self-employment records to verify earnings history. 3. You absolutely need to ask them to verify the delayed retirement credits calculation! Don't assume they'll get it right automatically. My mom had to specifically ask them to walk through the math showing how they calculated her benefit amount. The first rep got it wrong and we had to call back to get it corrected. I'd also suggest creating a simple one-page summary with all your key info (SSNs, dates of birth, marriage date, etc.) so your wife doesn't have to hunt for details during an already stressful call. The more organized and prepared she is, the smoother the process will go. The SSA website really doesn't prepare you for the reality of dealing with their system. These real-world experiences are invaluable!
This is incredibly thorough - thank you! I'm definitely going to create that one-page summary you mentioned. It's smart to have everything in one place so she doesn't have to scramble for information during what will already be an emotional and stressful time. The point about verifying the delayed retirement credits calculation is especially important. It sounds like even though the law says she should get those credits, you can't trust that SSA will automatically apply them correctly. I'm starting to think I should document not just where our papers are, but also the key questions she needs to ask and the specific benefits she should be entitled to. Has anyone found it helpful to bring a family member or friend to the SSA appointment for support? I'm wondering if having someone else there to take notes and ask follow-up questions might be beneficial, especially since it sounds like the reps sometimes rush through the process.
As someone who just went through the survivor benefits process 6 months ago, I can confirm that bringing someone with you is EXTREMELY helpful. My sister came with me to the SSA office and it made all the difference. She took notes while I focused on answering questions, and she caught several things the rep glossed over quickly. A few additional tips from my experience: - Write down the rep's name and direct number if they give one - Ask for a written summary of what benefits you'll receive and when - If they say you're not eligible for something, ask them to explain exactly why in writing - Don't leave without a clear timeline of when your first payment will arrive One thing that really helped was that my husband had written a simple letter before he passed explaining our situation and what benefits I should be entitled to. When the SSA rep tried to shortchange me on the delayed retirement credits calculation, I was able to reference his notes and push back confidently. The rep "suddenly" found the error and corrected it. The whole system is unfortunately designed to wear you down, but being prepared and having support makes it manageable. Document everything and don't be afraid to advocate for yourself!
This is such valuable advice, thank you for sharing your experience! The idea of your husband writing a letter beforehand is brilliant - that's something I never would have thought of but could be incredibly powerful when dealing with SSA reps who might try to shortchange benefits. I'm curious about the written summary you mentioned asking for. Did they readily provide that, or did you have to push for it? It seems like having everything documented would be crucial, especially given all the stories about getting different answers from different reps. Also, when you say the rep "suddenly" found the error after you referenced your husband's notes - that's exactly what I'm worried about for my wife. It sounds like they might initially try to give lower amounts hoping people won't know better. Having that documentation and being prepared to advocate seems essential. Did your husband include specific dollar amounts in his letter, or more general information about what benefits should be calculated? I'm thinking of putting together something similar and want to make sure I include the right level of detail.
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add some perspective on the documentation process that might be helpful. I just completed my Social Security retirement application last month at age 62 and successfully applied for my 16-year-old daughter's benefits simultaneously. Beyond the basic documents others mentioned (birth certificate, Social Security card), I found it helpful to bring a copy of my most recent tax return showing my daughter as a dependent, and her school enrollment verification. The SSA representative said this helped streamline the process since it clearly established both the relationship and her student status. One thing that surprised me was that they were able to provide a detailed breakdown of the family maximum calculation right there in the office. Since you mentioned having just one child and no ex-spouse collecting benefits, you're likely in a very favorable position - I was told that single-child families rarely hit the actual family maximum limits. The representative also explained that child benefits automatically stop the month your child turns 18 (or graduates high school if still under 19), so that's built into their calculations when they show you the projected benefit amounts. This timing consideration might be important for your college planning since benefits could potentially stop before or during your daughter's freshman year depending on her birthday and graduation timing. I'd definitely recommend calling ahead to schedule an appointment rather than walking in - the wait times have been much better with scheduled appointments, and they can dedicate more time to walking through all the scenarios and calculations with you.
Welcome to the community! Your experience is really valuable for those of us just starting to navigate this process. The tip about bringing tax returns showing dependency is smart - I wouldn't have thought of that but it makes perfect sense for establishing the relationship clearly. Your point about the timing of when child benefits end is crucial for college planning. If my daughter's birthday falls at the wrong time relative to her graduation and college start dates, we could potentially lose benefits right when college expenses begin. That's definitely something I need to factor into the timing decision. The fact that single-child families rarely hit the family maximum is encouraging - it sounds like we'd likely get close to that full 50% benefit amount. Combined with the detailed breakdown they can provide in the office, I'm feeling much more confident about scheduling that appointment. Thanks for the scheduling tip too! I'll definitely call ahead rather than dealing with walk-in wait times. Did they give you any sense of how far out they're booking appointments these days? I'm hoping to get this sorted out well before I need to make my final retirement decision.
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share some insights that might help with your decision-making process. I recently helped my brother navigate a very similar situation when he was considering early retirement at 62 with a 14-year-old son. One thing we discovered that hasn't been fully discussed here is the impact of your daughter's age on the total benefit period. Since she's currently 13 and you're planning to retire at 62 next summer, she would potentially receive benefits for about 4-5 years (until she turns 18 or graduates high school). This relatively short benefit period is important when weighing the FAFSA implications that others have mentioned. We found it helpful to create a spreadsheet comparing scenarios: taking early retirement now with child benefits versus waiting until full retirement age. While waiting would increase both your benefit and hers, you'd lose several years of actual payments. In my brother's case, the math actually favored taking early retirement because the cumulative benefits over those extra years outweighed the higher monthly amounts from waiting. Another consideration is that if you're planning to work part-time or have any earnings after claiming at 62, there are earnings limits that could reduce your benefits (and consequently your daughter's). For 2025, if you're under full retirement age, you can earn up to $23,400 without any reduction in benefits. I'd recommend getting that written estimate from SSA and then perhaps consulting with a fee-only financial advisor who can help you model out the long-term financial impact, including college costs and aid implications. This decision involves too many variables to make without running the actual numbers for your specific situation.
Fatima Al-Maktoum
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I called my local SSA office this morning and got some additional information. They confirmed what many of you said - my son can receive both benefits, but the SSI amount will be reduced. They also explained that the autism diagnosis doesn't affect his current benefits from his dad at all. I'm going to go ahead with the SSI application mainly for the Medicaid coverage. Really appreciate all your help navigating this complicated system!
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Dylan Mitchell
•That's great news! Make sure you keep copies of ALL his medical records related to the autism diagnosis when you apply for SSI. They'll need documentation from doctors, therapists, and even his preschool if he attends one. Good luck with everything!
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Isaiah Cross
•So glad you were able to get through to SSA and get clear answers! That's honestly half the battle with these programs. The Medicaid coverage alone will probably save you thousands on therapy costs. Best of luck with the application process - you're doing great advocating for your son!
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Noah huntAce420
I'm so glad you got the confirmation you needed from SSA! Just wanted to add that when you do apply for SSI, make sure to ask about expedited processing if available. Some offices can fast-track applications for children with certain conditions like autism, especially if you have all the medical documentation ready. Also, don't be discouraged if the first application gets denied - it's unfortunately common and doesn't mean your son doesn't qualify. Many families have to go through the appeals process. The most important thing is that you're getting him the services he needs. Wishing you and your son all the best!
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Natasha Petrova
•This is really helpful advice about the expedited processing! I didn't know that was even an option. Do you happen to know what specific documentation they look for to qualify for the fast-track? I have his diagnosis letter from the developmental pediatrician and some early intervention assessments, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important before I submit the application.
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Andre Dubois
•For expedited processing, they typically want comprehensive diagnostic reports from qualified specialists (like your developmental pediatrician), functional assessments showing how the autism affects daily activities, and any therapy evaluations (speech, occupational, behavioral). School IEP documents can also help if he's in an early intervention program. The key is showing the severity of functional limitations. Each SSA office has slightly different requirements, so I'd recommend calling ahead to ask what specific documentation they prefer for autism cases. Having everything organized and ready definitely helps speed up the process!
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