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Ava Garcia

Confused about Surviving Spouse Benefits calculation - is partial payment of deceased husband's Social Security normal?

I'm in a complete state of confusion right now about my survivor benefits. My husband passed away in October (2024), and I applied for both the Lump-Sum Death Payment and Surviving Spouse Benefits during the same phone interview about 48 days ago. We were married for 18 years, and my husband was already receiving his Social Security retirement benefits when he passed. I received the $255 Lump-Sum Death Payment 9 days ago, but I'm still waiting on the monthly survivor benefits. I reached FRA (Full Retirement Age) in early 2024 but hadn't applied for my own retirement benefits yet. When I asked about this before, I was told I would receive my husband's FULL retirement benefit amount since I'm at FRA. But yesterday, the SSA claims representative handling my case called and threw me for a loop. She asked if I wanted to apply for my own retirement benefits too, saying they could backdate it six months and I'd get that backpay quickly. Then she explained that for the survivor benefits, I wouldn't get my husband's full amount - instead I'd get a COMBINATION of my own benefit plus only a PORTION of his that would equal his total. Using her example: My retirement benefit = $1,320/month Portion of his benefit = $1,040/month Total = $2,360/month (which equals what he was receiving) I'm completely baffled. I thought I was supposed to get his entire benefit amount since I'm at FRA. The rep seemed to be trying to help me get some backpay quickly since I've had very little income since October, but I'm worried this might delay the survivor benefits or shortchange me somehow. Did she explain this correctly? Are survivor benefits really calculated this way? I'm desperate for this income to start flowing soon.

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The SSA rep is correct, but I understand why you're confused. This is how survivor benefits work when you have your own work record. When you're at FRA, you're entitled to the HIGHER of either: 1. Your own retirement benefit, OR 2. Your deceased spouse's full benefit You don't get both added together. It sounds like your husband's benefit was higher than your own, so you'll receive an amount equal to what he was receiving. What the rep was describing is how SSA administratively handles this. They'll pay your own retirement benefit first, and then add enough of the survivor benefit to reach the total of your husband's benefit amount. This is normal procedure. The advantage of filing for your own retirement now is that you'll get that 6-month backpay faster while they process the survivor claim. Eventually, you'll receive the full survivor amount retroactive to when you applied (or when he passed, depending on timing).

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Ava Garcia

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Thank you so much for clearing this up! I was completely misunderstanding how it works. So just to make sure I've got this straight - at the end of the day, I'll receive monthly payments equal to my husband's full benefit amount? The fact that it's technically split between "my benefit" and "partial survivor benefit" is just how they handle it internally, but the total will still be the same as what he was getting?

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Miguel Silva

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ur getting ur full amount!!! they just have to process it weirdly in their system. my sister went thru the same thing last yr when her husband died. its confusin but you'll get 100% of his amount since ur FRA. dont worry! its just system stuff

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Zainab Ismail

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My mother went through the EXACT same confusion when my father died!!! The SSA people are terrible at explaining things. But yes, you get the full amount, they just split it up in their system for accounting purposes or something. Just make sure you follow up if the payments don't start soon!

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I've been through this nightmare. The way they explained it to me was that I get the HIGHER of either my own or my deceased husband's benefit. But then they break it down in their system as "your own benefit" PLUS "the difference to reach his benefit." It's incredibly confusing! Take the backpay for your own benefits! That money will come faster while they process the survivor portion. You're not losing anything. They're just processing it in parts. BUT you should call back and confirm this. When I was dealing with survivor benefits, I got different answers from different SSA reps. It took me THREE CALLS to get the same answer twice!!!

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Ava Garcia

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I'm definitely going to call back to confirm. The whole system is so confusing, and I've been surviving on practically nothing since October. Did you find that getting your own retirement benefits first slowed down the survivor benefit processing at all? That's my main worry.

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Ava Garcia

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Thank you, I might need this. I've been calling the 800 number and it's been a nightmare. Either I get disconnected after waiting forever or they tell me they can't help and I need to talk to my specific case worker. I'll check out that video.

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The SSA rep is WRONG and you're getting SCREWED!! You're supposed to get your FULL benefit PLUS his FULL benefit! My cousin's neighbor got BOTH when her husband died. Call back and DEMAND to speak to a supervisor!!!!

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This is incorrect information. You cannot receive both your full retirement benefit AND your deceased spouse's full benefit. Social Security rules clearly state you receive the higher of the two, not both combined. Please be careful about spreading misinformation that could cause unnecessary stress and confusion.

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Quick update on the backpay situation - applying for your own retirement with 6 months backpay is a smart move. Since you reached FRA in early 2024, you can get those months of retirement benefits while waiting for the survivor benefit processing. One thing to check: make sure your application for survivor benefits is properly dated. It should be effective from the month of your husband's death if you applied within the first month. If he passed in October 2024, and you applied in November or December, your survivor benefits should be paid retroactively to November (the month after death). This would mean you should receive several months of back survivor payments once approved. The fact that they're offering to process your retirement claim separately suggests they're trying to get you some income faster while the survivor claim processes.

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Ava Garcia

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This is extremely helpful - I didn't realize I could get backpay to November! The rep did mention retroactive payments but didn't explain how far back they'd go. I'm going to call tomorrow to verify everything about the effective dates. Thank you!

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Zainab Ismail

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Did anyone else think the example numbers the SSA lady used seem really low?? $1,320 + $1,040 = $2,360 for a total benefit?? My dad was getting almost that much 10 years ago! Just seemed weird to me.

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I noticed that too! Average SS retirement is around $1,900/month now, and that's just average. The numbers in the example seemed way off unless her husband had a very short work history or something.

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Ava Garcia

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Those were just example numbers the rep used to explain the concept - not our actual benefit amounts! Our actual numbers are higher. Sorry for the confusion.

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Social Security survivor benefit expert here. Let me clarify exactly what's happening: 1. As a surviving spouse at FRA, you're entitled to 100% of your deceased husband's benefit amount. 2. How SSA processes this internally: - They pay your own retirement benefit first - Then they add a "partial survivor benefit" to reach the total - The sum equals your husband's full benefit amount 3. Why they suggested filing for your retirement: - Retirement claims process faster than survivor claims - You'll get some income (your retirement + 6 months backpay) while waiting - When the survivor portion is approved, your total will equal your husband's benefit - You'll also get retroactive survivor payments back to the month after his passing 4. This dual-entitlement processing is standard procedure and doesn't reduce your total benefit. The rep was actually trying to help you by suggesting this approach. It gets money in your pocket faster while the more complex survivor portion processes.

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Ava Garcia

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Thank you so much for explaining this so clearly! I feel much better now understanding how it all works. I'll definitely follow up with SSA about getting my own retirement started while they process the survivor portion. This has been so helpful.

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Isaiah Cross

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ava. Losing a spouse is devastating, and dealing with SSA bureaucracy on top of grief makes it even harder. The rep explained it correctly - you'll receive the full amount your husband was getting, but SSA splits it administratively between "your benefit" and "survivor portion." This is completely normal and you're not being shortchanged. Since you've been without income since October, I'd strongly recommend taking their suggestion to file for your retirement benefits now. Here's why: - You'll get your retirement benefit plus 6 months backpay within a few weeks - Survivor benefits can take months to process fully - Once approved, you'll get retroactive survivor payments back to November 2024 - Your total monthly amount will equal your husband's full benefit One tip: get everything in writing or take detailed notes during calls, including the rep's name and date. SSA processing can be inconsistent, and having documentation helps if you need to follow up. You're doing everything right - hang in there. The financial relief is coming.

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Diego Ramirez

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Thank you for the kind words and the clear breakdown. You're absolutely right - dealing with all this paperwork and confusion while grieving has been overwhelming. I really appreciate everyone here helping me understand that this is normal processing and I'm not getting cheated somehow. I'm definitely going to call tomorrow to get my retirement benefits started. The idea of getting some income flowing in a few weeks instead of waiting months for everything sounds like a lifesaver right now. And knowing I'll still get all the retroactive payments once it's sorted out makes me feel much better about moving forward with this approach. The documentation tip is really smart - I've been so stressed during these calls that I haven't been taking good notes. I'll start doing that from now on. Thanks again for all the support and advice!

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