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One more important thing to check during your appointment: make sure they've properly accounted for any Social Security-covered work you might have done in addition to your non-covered government job. Sometimes people have mixed employment histories with both covered and non-covered work, which can affect how the GPO is applied. If you have at least 30 years of substantial earnings under Social Security in addition to your government work, you might be exempt from GPO entirely. This is rare but worth confirming.

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That's really helpful - thank you. I did work in the private sector for about 7 years before my government job, so I'll definitely bring that up during the appointment. I doubt it's enough to qualify for the exemption, but worth checking.

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I'm dealing with a similar GPO situation with my teacher's pension. One thing I learned from my local SSA office is that even if you're denied spousal benefits now, it's worth keeping track of any changes that might affect your eligibility later. For example, if your wife's Social Security benefit increases significantly due to future COLA adjustments, or if your pension amount changes, the GPO calculation could shift in your favor. Also, when you reach your own full retirement age, you might want to compare whether your own Social Security benefit (if you have one from those 7 years of private sector work) would be better than continuing to pursue spousal benefits. The appointment is definitely worth keeping - they can run all these scenarios for you.

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This is extremely helpful - I had no idea about the representative payee responsibilities. I'll definitely keep detailed records if we're approved. We'd probably use some for her current expenses and save the rest for college. Thank you!

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As someone who works with families navigating Social Security benefits, I want to emphasize how important it is to gather ALL the documentation before your appointment. In addition to what others have mentioned, you'll also want to bring any school records showing your daughter lived with her grandfather, any medical records that list him as guardian, and if possible, any financial records showing he supported her (like tax returns where she was claimed as a dependent). The key thing SSA looks for is proof that the grandparent was actually providing support and the child was dependent on them. Also, don't be discouraged if your first application gets denied - this happens frequently with grandchild survivor benefits because the criteria can be complex. If that happens, you have 60 days to appeal and it's often worth getting help from a Social Security attorney who specializes in survivor benefits. Good luck with the process!

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One more thing to be aware of - if your father was receiving Social Security and your mother is still living, she may be eligible for survivor benefits if her own benefit amount is less than his. She should contact SSA about this once everything has settled down a bit.

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My mother actually passed away five years ago, but that's good information for others reading this thread. Thank you for all your help - this community has been incredibly supportive during a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for what you're going through with your father. The community has given you excellent advice already. Just to add one more practical tip - when you do call SSA to report his passing, have his Social Security number, date of birth, and death certificate information ready. They'll ask for these details. Also, keep a record of when you called, who you spoke with, and any confirmation numbers they give you. This documentation can be helpful if any issues come up later. Sending you and your family strength during this difficult time.

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Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you're planning to work until June 2025 and your FRA is August 2025, you might want to check if those extra months of high earnings ($75k annually) will significantly boost your own Social Security benefit calculation. Social Security uses your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so if you're still in your peak earning years, those final months could potentially push out some lower-earning years from earlier in your career. You can create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov to see your earnings history and get benefit estimates. Also, don't forget that once you do apply in August 2025, your benefits will be retroactive to your FRA date, so you won't lose any money by waiting those extra couple months. The plan Austin outlined really does seem like the cleanest approach for your situation!

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That's such a great point about the retroactive benefits! I hadn't realized that waiting until August wouldn't actually cost me anything since they'd backdate to my FRA. And you're absolutely right about checking my earnings history - I should look at whether these final high-earning months will bump out some of those early career years when I was making much less. Thanks for mentioning the my Social Security account - I'll definitely set that up to run the numbers before making my final decision.

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I went through a very similar situation about 3 years ago! I was also 66 and still working when I started looking into ex-spouse benefits. One thing that really helped me was requesting a "benefit verification letter" from SSA that shows what my projected benefits would be at different ages (62, FRA, and 70). This let me compare my own benefit projections against the estimated ex-spouse benefit without having to file anything yet. Also, since you mentioned your ex is 68, he's likely already collecting, which makes the process smoother. When I applied, I just needed his full name and Social Security number - SSA handled the rest of the verification internally without involving him at all. The waiting until August 2025 plan that others suggested really is smart. I wish I had been more patient instead of rushing into filing early. Those extra delayed retirement credits can add up to significant money over the long term, especially if you're in good health and expect to live a normal lifespan.

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One final point about the monthly test versus annual test: After your first year on benefits, Social Security will automatically switch you to the annual test. You don't need to contact them for this change. So in 2025, they'll use the monthly test, and in 2026, they'll automatically use the annual test. For 2025, as long as you stay under $1,840 in January, you should be fine. For the rest of 2025, if you've fully retired, you won't have any earnings to worry about anyway. But if you do any part-time work later in 2025, you'll need to stay under the monthly limit for any month you work.

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Perfect explanation - thank you! I was planning to fully retire, but it's good to know how the monthly test works just in case I pick up a little part-time work later this year. I really appreciate everyone's help with this confusing topic!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation as a newcomer to Social Security benefits! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. One thing I want to add that might help other newcomers: I called my former HR department to get a written breakdown of which hours were worked in which month, since my final paycheck also spanned two months. They were actually really helpful and provided a detailed breakdown that I can keep for my records. It might be worth reaching out to your HR department too, Natasha, just to have that documentation from the employer side as well as your own records. This whole earnings test thing is way more complicated than I expected when I first applied for benefits!

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