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I've been on SSDI for about 15 years now (became disabled before my marriage) and my monthly benefit is pathetically low - only about $950. My spouse and I have been married for over 27 years, but I'm wondering if I could possibly qualify for higher benefits based on their earnings record? Here's where it gets complicated: My spouse isn't anywhere near retirement age yet. Also, for their first 18-20 years of working, they paid into Social Security normally. But for the last decade, they've been working in a government job that only pays into a pension system, not Social Security. I've been trying to understand how this might affect things. From what I've read, my spouse might face the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) or Government Pension Offset (GPO) when they retire because of the pension job. But what I can't figure out is: 1) Can I claim any spousal benefits NOW based on their SS record even though they're not retired? 2) Does their switch to a pension-only job for the last 10 years mess up their Social Security eligibility completely? 3) Am I just stuck with my low SSDI payment forever? I also looked into ABLE accounts, but I miss the age cutoff by a few months, so that's not an option. If anyone has dealt with this pension/SS crossover situation, I'd really appreciate some guidance on what specific questions I should ask when I contact SSA. Their website is so confusing on these mixed scenarios!
Just trying to understand what I might receive from Social Security in the future. I'm 59 and my husband is 65. We're currently living separately but staying legally married until we hit the 10-year mark (for SS purposes). He currently receives about $750/month in retirement benefits. When I turn 62, I expect to get approximately the same amount based on my own work record. My question is about survivor benefits: if he passes away after we've been married 10+ years and I'm already collecting my own $750/month benefit, would I then be eligible for any additional amount as his widow? Or would I just continue getting my same $750? His health isn't great, so I'm trying to plan ahead financially. The SSA website is confusing me with all the talk about percentages and maximum family benefits. Can anyone explain this in simple terms?
does anyone know if they check if ur actually living together for these benefits? asking for a friend lol
Just wanted to add something that might help with your planning - you mentioned your husband's health isn't great. If he becomes disabled and starts receiving Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI), that could actually increase his benefit amount, which would then increase your potential survivor benefit too. SSDI benefits are calculated differently and can sometimes be higher than early retirement benefits. Also, if he's currently receiving reduced benefits because he claimed before his full retirement age, those reductions don't carry over to survivor benefits - you'd get his full unreduced amount. So even if you're both expecting $750 now, the actual survivor benefit could end up being more. Definitely worth getting a personalized estimate from SSA when you're ready to make concrete plans.
I need some clarity on SS earnings limits. I started receiving Social Security in April 2024 at 64 (still under my FRA of 67). Last year I worked part-time and carefully stayed under both the annual limit ($21,240) and the monthly limit ($1,770) after I started collecting. This year I'm still working part-time and will definitely stay under the 2025 annual limit ($22,320), but I'm confused about whether the monthly limit ($1,860) still applies in my second year of benefits? Some months I might earn $2,100 but my annual total will be well under $22,320. Will I lose benefits for those specific months that go over $1,860 even though my yearly total is fine? The SSA pamphlet wasn't clear on this second-year situation.
Thanks everyone for the clear answers. I'm relieved to know that only the annual limit applies in my second year (2025). I've been stressing about turning down extra hours in certain months, but now I can just focus on staying under the yearly total of $22,320. I'll make sure to report my expected earnings to SSA as suggested to avoid any surprise overpayments. This forum has been so much more helpful than the official publications!
Just wanted to add one more helpful tip for tracking your earnings - I use a simple spreadsheet to track my monthly income throughout the year so I can see exactly where I stand against that $22,320 limit. Since you mentioned your work has seasonal ups and downs, this might help you plan which months to take on extra hours versus when to scale back. I also set myself a buffer of about $1,000 under the limit just to be safe, since unexpected income can sometimes pop up (like a bonus or extra project). Better to leave a little money on the table than deal with SSA overpayment headaches!
I'm about to turn 64 and I've been out of the workforce since 2020 due to health issues. My husband (who'll become my ex next year when our divorce finalizes) is 69 and started collecting his Social Security at his full retirement age of 66. We've been married for 35 years, so I know I qualify for ex-spouse benefits even after the divorce. My full retirement age is 67, and my benefit amount at FRA will be about $2,850/month, which is slightly higher than what he gets. I'm trying to maximize my lifetime benefits - could I claim 50% of his benefit now at 64 and then switch to my own higher benefit when I turn 70? Or does that restricted application strategy not work anymore? I've heard conflicting information about this.
Thank you all for the responses! I think I'm going to try to talk to a Social Security rep directly about my specific situation. Then I'll probably wait until 70 to maximize my benefit since I'm fortunate enough to have some savings to tide me over. It's disappointing that the restricted application strategy isn't available to me, but I appreciate understanding my actual options clearly now.
That's a wise approach. One more thing to consider - if your ex passes away before you, you would be eligible for survivor benefits equal to 100% of his benefit amount (or reduced if taken before your FRA). In that unfortunate scenario, you could take the survivor benefit and still switch to your own at 70 if it's higher. Survivor benefits have different rules than spousal/divorced spouse benefits.
That's a really important point about survivor benefits that I hadn't considered! So even though I can't do the restricted application strategy, there could still be some flexibility if circumstances change. It sounds like Social Security rules are full of these nuances that aren't obvious. I'm definitely going to ask about survivor benefit scenarios when I talk to SSA - better to understand all possibilities upfront.
One additional consideration for your situation: since you mentioned being out of the workforce since 2020 due to health issues, you might want to explore whether you qualify for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI). If approved, SSDI benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits at your full retirement age without any reduction. This could potentially bridge the gap if you're struggling financially while waiting until 70. The application process can be lengthy, but it's worth investigating if your health condition meets SSA's definition of disability. You can apply online or through that Claimyr service mentioned earlier to speak with an agent about eligibility requirements.
That's a really good point about SSDI! I hadn't even thought about that possibility. My health issues are primarily chronic fatigue and some mobility problems that made it impossible to continue working. I'm not sure if they would meet SSA's definition of disability, but it might be worth exploring since the financial pressure of waiting until 70 is definitely a concern. Do you know if there's a time limit on how long after you stop working you can apply for SSDI?
@Anderson Prospero Yes, there is a time limit! You generally need to apply for SSDI within 5 years of when your disability began or when you last worked whichever (is later .)Since you stopped working in 2020 due to health issues, you re'still well within that window. The key is proving that your condition prevented you from doing substantial "gainful activity -" which for 2024 is earning more than $1,550 per month. Chronic fatigue and mobility issues can definitely qualify if they re'severe enough to prevent you from working any job, not just your previous job. I d'definitely encourage you to look into it since SSDI also comes with Medicare eligibility after 24 months, which could be huge for managing your health conditions.
I'm really struggling with the decision about when to start my Social Security benefits. I just turned 65 and am trying to decide whether to claim now, wait until my FRA (which is 66 and 8 months), or hold out until 70 for maximum benefits. My monthly benefit would be around $1,950 now, $2,600 at FRA, or about $3,380 if I wait until 70. I've heard so many different opinions from financial advisors, but I'd rather hear from actual retirees. For those who started collecting early (62-65), do you regret not waiting? And those who waited until FRA or 70, was it worth it? Some context: I'm still working part-time but could fully retire now if I wanted to. I have about $420,000 in retirement savings and a small pension of $1,100/month. My health is generally good (parents lived to late 80s), and I'm single with no children. I'm really torn between taking benefits now and enjoying the money versus waiting for a larger monthly check later. Would appreciate hearing about your real-life experiences rather than theoretical break-even calculations!
One last strategy to consider: If you're still working part-time and don't urgently need the money, you might file a restricted application for just spousal benefits (if eligible) while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70. This option is only available to people born before Jan 2, 1954, but it's worth checking if you qualify. Also, remember that delaying benefits acts as a form of longevity insurance. The biggest financial risk for many retirees isn't running out of money in their 70s - it's running out in their 90s when healthcare costs typically increase dramatically.
I'm 72 and claimed at my FRA (66 at the time). Looking back, I think it was the right middle-ground decision for me. I got 4 years of benefits before the "break-even" point, but didn't sacrifice as much monthly income as those who filed at 62. What really helped me decide was thinking about it in terms of guaranteed income vs. investment risk. Social Security is one of the few truly guaranteed income sources we have in retirement - it's backed by the government, gets COLA adjustments, and lasts for life. When I framed it that way, waiting a bit longer for a substantially higher guaranteed monthly payment made sense. That said, your health history and family longevity are huge factors. With parents who lived to their late 80s and your own good health, you're likely looking at 20+ years of benefits. In that scenario, the higher monthly amount from waiting could really add up. But if you're itching to retire fully and enjoy life now, there's real value in that too - you can't put a price on peace of mind and freedom.
Kristin Frank
One more thing to consider - when your spouse does reach retirement age, you should definitely reapply for spousal benefits even if you think the GPO might eliminate them. The calculations are complex, and depending on the size of their pension versus their Social Security benefit, you might still get some additional amount. Also, keep in mind that the rules for disability benefits can differ from retirement benefits in terms of how they interact with spousal benefits. Make sure when you contact SSA you specifically mention you're on SSDI, not retirement benefits, as this changes how certain provisions apply.
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Jabari-Jo
AuthorThank you so much for this additional info. I'll definitely reapply when my spouse reaches retirement age. It feels like navigating a maze with all these interconnected rules! I really appreciate everyone's help in sorting through this.
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Emma Anderson
I'm dealing with a similar situation but from a slightly different angle - my spouse has been on SSDI for 8 years and I work for the state (pension system). We're trying to plan ahead for when I retire in about 10 years. One thing our benefits counselor mentioned that might apply to your situation: even though your spouse switched to a pension-only job, those earlier 18-20 years of SS contributions don't disappear. They'll still factor into any future Social Security retirement benefit calculation, just reduced by WEP if applicable. Also, regarding SSI - it's worth asking about even though you're married. SSI has income and asset limits, but they do consider your household situation. With your SSDI being so low and depending on your spouse's income, you might qualify for some supplemental amount. The worst they can say is no, but it could potentially help bridge that gap until your spouse reaches retirement age. Have you considered contacting your local Area Agency on Aging or disability advocacy organization? They often have benefits counselors who specialize in these complex multi-program situations and can walk through the scenarios with you for free.
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