Taking SS at 62 vs 65 - how much survivor benefit will I get from husband's higher benefit?
I'm completely confused about survivor benefits and need some guidance. I'm turning 62 soon and trying to decide when to claim my Social Security. My FRA is 67, but if I take benefits at 62, I'd receive about $850/month. My husband is 5 years younger than me and plans to work until his FRA (67), when he should get around $1600-1900/month depending on his earnings over the next decade. My big question is: If my husband passes away before me, how much of his benefit would I receive on top of mine? Is there some kind of "top off" amount? I know there's a term for this but I can't remember what it's called. If I don't take SS at 62, I'll definitely claim at 65. Would waiting those extra 3 years make a big difference in what I'd get as a widow later? This whole system is so complicated and I'm worried about making the wrong choice. Thanks for any help!
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Miguel Silva
What you're referring to is called survivor benefits. As a widow, you would receive the higher of either your own benefit or your husband's full benefit amount. You don't get both combined or "topped off" - you get whichever is larger. If you claim your own retirement at 62, it will be permanently reduced (about 30% less than your FRA amount). This reduction doesn't affect survivor benefits though. If your husband passes away, you would get his full benefit amount (assuming he waited until his FRA to claim). Waiting until 65 to claim your own retirement would mean a smaller reduction (about 13.3% less than your FRA), but wouldn't change what you'd get as a survivor.
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StarSailor}
•Thank you for explaining! So if I understand correctly, if I take my reduced benefit at 62 ($850) and years later my husband passes away after claiming his benefit at 67 ($1600-1900), I would stop getting my $850 and instead get his full $1600-1900? The timing of when I take MY benefits doesn't affect what I'd get as a widow?
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Zainab Ismail
my mom got widowed last year and ss is so confusing!!!! she got dad's benefit which was way higher than hers. But they dont ADD together like u were asking. she just gets the bigger one. good luck figuring it all out!
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StarSailor}
•Thanks for sharing about your mom's experience. It's helpful to hear from someone who's seen how this works in real life. Sorry about your dad's passing.
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Connor O'Neill
You're asking about survivor benefits, which is an important planning consideration. Here's a more complete picture: 1. If you claim at 62, your benefit is permanently reduced to $850 (about 30% less than your FRA amount) 2. If your husband claims at his FRA (67) and later passes away, you would receive his FULL benefit amount as a survivor benefit (the $1600-1900), replacing your smaller benefit 3. The age YOU claim your OWN retirement benefit does NOT affect the amount of survivor benefits you would receive later 4. However, if you are widowed BEFORE you've claimed any benefits, and you claim survivor benefits before YOUR full retirement age, those survivor benefits would be reduced This is why some financial advisors suggest the lower-earning spouse might claim early while the higher-earning spouse delays as long as possible - it maximizes the survivor benefit.
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StarSailor}
•This is SO helpful, thank you! I think I understand now - when I claim my own benefit doesn't impact what I'd get as a widow later. That makes my decision easier. I was worried that taking SS early would permanently reduce ANY future benefits, including survivor benefits.
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Yara Nassar
OMG the SSA makes this SOOO COMPLICATED!!! I went through this exact same question last year when deciding when to take my benefits. My husband makes way more than me too. I ended up just taking mine at 62 because who knows how long we have on this earth??!! I figured I'd rather have the money now to enjoy while I'm still healthy enough to travel. Just my two cents!
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Keisha Robinson
•While I understand the "bird in hand" philosophy, it's important to consider life expectancy. Statistics show that women typically outlive men by several years, and if you live into your mid-80s (which is increasingly common), you could be leaving significant money on the table by claiming early. Each situation is unique though, and factors like health status and financial need should guide these decisions.
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Keisha Robinson
One important consideration that hasn't been mentioned: if your husband delays claiming BEYOND his FRA, he earns delayed retirement credits that increase his benefit by 8% per year up to age 70. This increased amount becomes the survivor benefit baseline. For example, if his FRA benefit would be $1600 but he delays to 70, it could grow to around $2000. If he predeceases you, you would then receive that higher amount as your survivor benefit. This strategy - where the lower earner claims earlier and the higher earner delays as long as possible - is often recommended specifically to maximize the eventual survivor benefit.
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StarSailor}
•I hadn't even thought about him waiting past 67! That's really good to know. I'll have to discuss this with him, but he's not big on financial planning conversations. Is there a good resource you'd recommend where I can learn more about these strategies?
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GalaxyGuardian
I spent 3 WEEKS trying to get someone at SSA on the phone to answer these exact questions last year when my husband passed. Constantly disconnected or on hold for hours. finally found a service called Claimyr that got me through to a real person at SSA in under 10 minutes. they have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU the SSA rep confirmed what others said - as a widow you get the higher of your benefit or your deceased spouse's, not both combined. in my case, taking my benefits early didn't affect what I got as a widow.
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Paolo Ricci
•you actually got someone from social security on the phone??? whoa! might have to check that out cus ive been trying to get thru to them for weeks about MY question! 😩
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Paolo Ricci
my sister said she thinks if u take ur SS early at 62 then it DOES affect ur survivors benefits later!! now im confused by what everyones saying here that its not affected???? anybody SURE about this??
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Connor O'Neill
•Your sister is likely confusing two different scenarios: 1. If you're ALREADY receiving survivor benefits and then apply for your own retirement benefits early, your total benefit could be affected. 2. If you take your own benefit early but become a widow LATER, your survivor benefit would not be reduced because of your early retirement claim. You would simply switch from your reduced benefit to the full survivor benefit. The confusion is understandable because there are different rules for claiming survivor benefits early versus how your own claiming age affects future survivor benefits you might receive.
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Keisha Robinson
Regarding your question about waiting until 65 instead of claiming at 62: Your own benefit would be approximately $150-200 higher per month if you wait until 65 vs. 62. But as others have pointed out, this won't affect what you'd receive as a survivor benefit later. However, those extra dollars could be significant if: 1. Your husband lives a long life and you never need to claim survivor benefits 2. You have other income that might make your Social Security taxable 3. You're still working between 62-65 and might face the earnings test I'd recommend using the calculators on SSA.gov to get exact figures for your situation.
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StarSailor}
•Thank you for the specific numbers. That helps put things in perspective. I didn't even think about the tax implications or the earnings test! I'm not working anymore, but I do have a small pension. I'll definitely check the calculators on the SSA website.
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Miguel Silva
One additional tip - when you're ready to apply, you can schedule an appointment at your local SSA office to discuss all these options. They can run calculations specific to your situation and help you understand all the implications. Just be aware that getting an appointment might take several weeks. Start that process well before you plan to claim benefits.
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Zainab Ismail
•good luck with that!! my mom waited 2 MONTHS for an appointment and then they canceled it day before!! 🙄
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