Social Security spousal benefits calculation at 71 after early retirement - what to expect?
I've got a phone interview with Social Security next week (January 24th) about applying for spousal benefits. We're both 67 now and I took my retirement at 62, which I know reduced my benefit permanently. My husband waited until 65 to claim his, and his monthly payment is almost triple what I get ($2,800 vs my measly $950). I've collected all our marriage certificate, birth certificates, tax returns from last year, and current benefit statements. Does anyone know how they calculate the spousal benefit in our situation? Will they just look at our current payment amounts or does the early retirement factor in somehow? I've tried reading the SSA website but got completely confused with all the percentages and reduction factors. Really appreciate any insight from folks who've been through this process recently!
19 comments
Ethan Anderson
I went thru this last year. they look at what your full retirement benefit would have been if u hadnt taken early retirement, then take half of your husbands primary insurance amount and compare the two. you get the higher amount but they dont give you both, just the higher one
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Ava Kim
•So I don't get my current benefit PLUS some extra amount? I always thought that's how it worked. This is even more confusing than I thought!
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Layla Mendes
The calculation for spousal benefits when you've claimed your own retirement early is a bit complex. Here's how it works: 1. SSA will calculate what your Full Retirement Age (FRA) benefit would have been if you hadn't claimed early 2. They'll calculate your spousal benefit, which is 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - that's his benefit amount at his full retirement age, not his current payment 3. If your spousal benefit would be higher than your own retirement benefit, you'll receive your own benefit plus the difference to bring you up to the spousal benefit level Since you claimed at 62, you're receiving approximately 70-75% of your full retirement benefit. The spousal benefit is also reduced if claimed before your FRA, but since you're 67 now and FRA for your birth year was likely 66, you're past that threshold. During your call, ask specifically about your PIA and your husband's PIA - these are the key numbers they'll use for calculations.
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Ava Kim
•Thank you! This makes much more sense. So I'll get my reduced retirement benefit PLUS possibly some additional amount to bring me up to half of his PIA? I've been trying to figure out if this is even worth pursuing since I'm already receiving benefits.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
They will look at if half of his benift is more then your full benifit. The early retirement dosent matter now because your past full retirement age. Have your marrage certificate ready they always want to see that!
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Layla Mendes
•Actually, the early retirement reduction does still matter. When you take early retirement benefits, that reduction is permanent and carries over to how your spousal benefit is calculated. The fact that they're now past FRA means any NEW benefits wouldn't be reduced, but the existing reduction on their own retirement benefit is permanent and affects the spousal benefit calculation.
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Aria Park
THE SSA IS A JOKE!!! I had THREE appointments about spousal benefits and got THREE different answers! They kept miscalculating my husbands PIA and telling me I wasn't eligible when I WAS! Had to get a supervisor involved and it took 9 MONTHS to resolve. Make sure you take notes during your call and get the rep's name and direct number if possible!!! Don't let them rush you off the phone until you FULLY understand the calculation!!!
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Ava Kim
•Oh no, that sounds horrible! I'm definitely taking detailed notes during the call. Did you eventually get the correct benefit amount? Was it retroactive once they fixed their mistake?
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Aria Park
•YES finally got it fixed and they did backpay but only after I threatened to contact my congressman!! The problem is the phone reps often don't understand the more complicated rules about spousal benefits especially with the early retirement factors. DEMAND to speak to a Technical Expert if they seem confused!!!
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Noah Ali
good luck getting through on the phone. ive been trying for weeks to talk to someone about my husbands benefits. always busy or disconnected after waiting for an hour.
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Chloe Boulanger
•I had the same frustration until I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com). It basically holds your place in line with SSA and calls you when an agent is available. Saved me hours of waiting and disconnected calls. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU For something important like spousal benefits where you need to make sure the calculations are correct, it's worth making sure you actually get through to someone who can help.
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James Martinez
I'd like to address a couple of misconceptions I'm seeing in some of the responses: 1. When you apply for spousal benefits after your Full Retirement Age (FRA), you're eligible for 50% of your spouse's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). 2. Since you took your own benefits early at 62, you're receiving a permanently reduced benefit amount - approximately 70-75% of what you would have received at your FRA. 3. You don't receive both your retirement benefit AND a full spousal benefit. Instead, you receive the higher of either: a) Your own reduced retirement benefit; OR b) The difference between your own reduced benefit and up to 50% of your spouse's PIA (if that amount is higher) Given that your husband's benefit is nearly triple yours, it's likely you'll qualify for additional spousal benefits. However, the early retirement reduction on your own benefit will impact the total amount. During your call, specifically ask about: - Your PIA (what your benefit would have been at FRA) - Your husband's PIA - The exact spousal benefit calculation in your case Request that they walk through the math with you step by step.
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Ava Kim
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'll definitely ask for those specific numbers and have them walk me through the calculation. Would it be helpful to have my most recent Social Security statement ready too? It shows what my benefit would have been at different ages.
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James Martinez
•Yes, having your most recent SSA statement is very helpful! It shows your actual earnings history and benefit estimates. That document will make it easier to verify that the representative is using the correct numbers during your call. One more tip: after they explain the calculation, ask them to tell you exactly when you can expect to see the adjusted payment (if you qualify for additional benefits) and whether you'll receive any retroactive amounts. Be sure to note the claim number they assign to your application too.
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Ethan Anderson
my sister just went thru this 2 months ago. dont let them tell u your not eligible cuz u already collect! thats what they told her first and it was WRONG
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Aria Park
•THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!! The front-line reps often don't know all the rules! Always ask for a Technical Expert or supervisor if something doesn't sound right!!!
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Lucas Notre-Dame
I did this in November it was really easy actually. The call lasted 15 minutes they just asked for my husbands ssn and marriage date and added the spousal part to my existing benifits. Money showed up 2 weeks later in my direct deposit.
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Ava Kim
•That's encouraging! Did they explain how they calculated the amount or did they just tell you what you'd be getting?
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•They just said I was eligible for an extra $420 per month. I didn't ask for the math honestly I was just happy to get anything extra! They did say something about my benefit being less than half of my husbands.
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