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Confused about which month to file for Social Security at FRA to get full benefits

I'm completely confused about when exactly I should file for my Social Security retirement benefits to make sure I get my full FRA amount. I turned 67 in March 2025 (which I believe is my full retirement age), but I'm getting mixed advice from friends and family. I started the online application last week but stopped halfway because I got worried about choosing the wrong start date. Do I need to file during my birth month? Before it? After it? I've read that benefits are paid a month behind, so does that affect when I should file? I don't want to accidentally take benefits early and get a permanent reduction, but I also don't want to lose any payments by filing too late. Also, does anyone know if I need to specify a particular start date in the application, or does SSA automatically set it to my FRA if I file around my 67th birthday? The whole process is making me anxious!

My husband and I both turned 67 last year and we filed at different times to test this exact thing! I filed exactly ON my birthday month, and he waited 5 months to file. Guess what? He got 5 months of back pay AND his regular payment started the same month as mine! The system makes NO SENSE. And don't get me started on the taxation of these benefits - we're being DOUBLE TAXED on money we already paid taxes on during our working years!!! The whole system needs an overhaul!!

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did u have to pay taxes on the lump sum backpay? i'm worried about that pushing me into a higher bracket this year

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Regarding taxation of the lump sum retroactive payment: Yes, Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your total income. For the retroactive benefits specifically, you have two options: 1. Include the entire lump sum in your income for the year you receive it, or 2. Apply the retroactive benefits to the tax years they were actually for (using Form SSA-561-U2) The second option might be beneficial if including the lump sum in your current year would push you into a higher tax bracket. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional to determine the best approach for your specific situation.

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I'm in a similar situation - turned 67 last month and just realized I might be overthinking this whole filing process! Reading through all these responses is really helpful. It sounds like the key takeaway is that since you're already past your FRA, you can file now and request the earliest possible entitlement date to get those 6 months of retroactive benefits. I've been putting off filing because I was scared of making a mistake, but it seems like the main thing is just to complete the application and be clear about wanting the earliest start date. The online application can be confusing, but at least we know we won't get a permanent reduction since we're past FRA. Has anyone here had issues with the online application timing out or losing progress? I started mine twice and both times it seemed to reset when I came back to finish it later.

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Social Security benefit amount wildly different than SSA estimates - why such big discrepancies?

Just got my award letter from Social Security after filing for retirement benefits three months ago, and I'm completely confused about their calculation methods. The actual benefit I'm getting is $2,750 per month, which is about $500 MORE than what my annual statement estimated last year at my full retirement age (67). Oddly though, it's around $125 LESS than what the claims specialist estimated when I actually filed my application. How can SSA's own estimates be so far off in both directions? I'm grateful for the extra money compared to what I expected last year, but it makes me wonder how they calculate these things. Has anyone else experienced such wildly inaccurate benefit estimates? Makes it really hard to plan financially when the numbers swing by hundreds of dollars!

I just remembered something else! When I was trying to figure out why my benefit was so different from the estimate, I learned that the statement estimates don't include the delayed retirement credits if you file after your FRA. Did you wait beyond your full retirement age? That could explain part of the increase over your statement estimate.

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I did file exactly at my FRA, so I don't think delayed credits would apply in my case. But that's good info for others who might be reading this thread!

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As someone new to this community, I'm finding this discussion incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and planning to file for Social Security in the next year or two, and this thread is making me realize I should probably take those estimates with a grain of salt. It sounds like there are so many variables that can affect the final calculation - recent earnings, COLA adjustments, timing of when you file, etc. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and come back to it when I get my own award letter. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those who explained the technical details!

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Can retired teacher collect deceased husband's full Social Security benefits with WEP?

My best friend just lost her husband last month after 19 years of marriage. She's devastated, and I'm trying to help her understand her benefits situation. She was a public school teacher for 15 years and receives a pension from that. Her husband worked in the private sector his whole life and had much higher Social Security earnings than she did. She's currently 67 and already retired, but now wondering if she can claim his full Social Security survivor benefits? Someone mentioned the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) might reduce what she can get because of her teacher's pension. Does the WEP affect survivor benefits too? I'm confused about whether she'll get his full amount or if it gets reduced because of her pension. Any help would be so appreciated - she's still processing her grief and I want to give her accurate information.

just wanted to say ur a good friend for helping her through this. when my husband died i couldn't think straight for months and would have missed out on benefits if my daughter hadn't helped me figure it all out

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Thank you for saying that. I'm trying my best to help her navigate all this while she's grieving. It's overwhelming how many financial things need to be handled right after losing someone.

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I'm so sorry for your friend's loss. Losing a spouse is devastating, and dealing with all these benefit questions during grief is incredibly difficult. You're being such a wonderful friend by helping her navigate this. From what everyone has shared, it sounds like the GPO will indeed reduce her survivor benefits significantly. One thing I'd add is that she should also check if there are any survivor benefits available through her husband's employer - some companies provide temporary continuation of health insurance or small survivor pensions that are separate from Social Security. Also, while the GPO reduction is substantial, receiving $1,400 in survivor benefits plus her $2,700 teacher pension still provides meaningful financial support. I know it's not what she was hoping for, but every bit helps during this transition. Make sure she knows that survivor benefits can be retroactive to the month after her husband's death, so even if there's a delay in processing, she won't lose those months of benefits. The sooner she applies, the better.

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Unexpected Social Security deposits in my account - SSA error or retroactive payment?

Has anyone else gotten unexpected Social Security deposits in their bank account in the past week? I just checked my account this morning and found an extra $1,875 deposit from 'US TREASURY' with 'SOC SEC' in the description. This is completely separate from my regular monthly SS retirement benefit that I already received on the 3rd. I'm worried this might be some kind of error and they'll want it back if I spend it. I haven't received any letters or notices about retroactive payments or COLA adjustments. Should I call SSA about this or just wait to see if they send something in the mail?

UPDATE: I FINALLY got through to SS after 2.5 HOURS on hold!!! They said many people are getting deposits because of an ERROR in the COLAs calculated for 2024!!! They under-calculated many people's increases and are now fixing it with back payments to January. CHECK YOUR AMOUNTS carefully!! The agent said if you got more than you should have they WILL take it back eventually!!!

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Thank you so much for updating us! That actually makes a lot of sense. I'm going to double-check the amount against what my COLA should have been. Really appreciate you sharing this after waiting so long to get through to them.

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This is really helpful information everyone! I'm in a similar situation - got an unexpected $892 deposit yesterday with "SOC SEC" in the description. Based on what Lauren found out about the COLA calculation errors, that amount actually lines up with what I think I might have been underpaid since January. I'm going to try calling tomorrow morning (hopefully the wait times are better early in the day) to confirm this is legitimate before I even think about touching it. Thanks for all the warnings about not spending it until we know for sure - definitely don't want to end up overdrawn if they take it back!

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Can SS retirement benefits be penalized for high income BEFORE starting benefits mid-year?

I've got a tricky situation with my early retirement and income limits. Due to unexpected back problems requiring two surgeries, I had to stop my full-time job at age 65 (one year before my FRA of 66). I worked January through June 2024 at my regular salary (about $72,000 annually), then started receiving Social Security benefits on July 1, 2024. I picked up some part-time consulting work from July through mid-September but kept it under the monthly earnings limit (made about $1,450/month). My question is: will Social Security penalize my benefits for the $36,000 I earned in the first half of the year BEFORE I started collecting benefits? I thought income only counts against you after you start receiving SS, but my neighbor said they look at the whole calendar year. Really worried about possibly owing money back to SSA!

One more important point: When you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), the earnings test disappears completely. So once you turn 66, you can earn unlimited income without any reduction in benefits. Keep that in mind for your future planning.

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That's great news! I turn 66 next July, so I only need to worry about the earnings limit for one more year. After that, I can take on more consulting work without restrictions. Thanks for pointing that out!

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As someone new to this community, I just wanted to say how helpful this discussion has been! I'm approaching retirement myself and had no idea about the monthly vs annual earnings test distinction for the first year. The advice about formally notifying SSA about mid-year retirement seems crucial - I'll definitely keep that in mind when my time comes. It's frustrating that such an important rule isn't more widely known or automatically applied. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge here!

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