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I'm trying to understand how my early retirement decision might affect different benefits scenarios down the road. I just turned 60 and I'm weighing my options. From what I've researched so far: • If I claim my own Social Security retirement benefits early at 62, I'll take about a 30% reduction from my full retirement age amount. • If I later decide that my husband's record would give me higher spousal benefits, I think the early filing reduction from my own record would still affect what I could get as a spouse. • But if my husband passes away (hoping this doesn't happen for many years!), I believe I could get his full benefit amount as a widow regardless of when I started my own benefits. Can someone confirm if I've got this right? The SSA website is confusing me and I've heard different things from friends. The difference between spousal and survivor benefits is especially muddy to me. Thanks in advance!
I'm a U.S. citizen living in Portugal for the past 3 years and have always received my Social Security direct deposit like clockwork on the 3rd of each month to my international bank account. It's now January 7th, and my January 2025 payment hasn't arrived yet. I checked my MySocialSecurity account and it shows the payment was processed, but nothing's in my account. I've tried calling the Federal Benefits Unit at the U.S. Embassy here but got voicemail. Has anyone else living overseas experienced a delay with their January Social Security payment? Is this some kind of new year glitch or should I be worried? My retirement funds are pretty tight and I rely on that monthly deposit.
This whole thread has me worried about my upcoming move abroad. Does anyone know if receiving payments on a US bank account and then transferring internationally is more reliable than direct international deposit? I'm on SSDI and absolutely cannot handle payment delays when I move.
Thats what i do! Keep my US bank and use wise to send money to Thailand when exchange rates are good. Much less stress than depending on direct deposit internationally.
I can add some perspective as someone who's been receiving SSDI internationally for 4 years. I initially tried direct international deposit to my German bank, but after experiencing 2-3 delays per year, I switched to keeping a US account with Navy Federal and using their international ATMs. Haven't had a single issue since making that change. The peace of mind is worth the small ATM fees, especially when you're on a fixed disability income and can't afford delays.
I started collecting early retirement benefits at 62 last month. My monthly benefit is $2,170. I have two children (ages 10 and 12) who each receive $756 in dependent benefits. My wife (age 59) is also currently receiving $756 as a spouse caring for our children. She's considering going back to work full-time and stopping her benefit. Here's what I'm confused about: I've heard conflicting information about what happens to the children's benefits if my wife stops receiving hers. Some people say her portion would be redistributed to the kids, increasing their monthly amount. Others say the kids' benefits remain the same regardless. Does anyone know for sure? We're trying to figure out if her returning to work would actually benefit our total household income. Thanks for any help!
You should really consider the whole financial picture. In my case, when my wife went back to work, we lost her SS benefit BUT: 1. She got health insurance through her employer which saved us $580/month 2. She started contributing to a 401k again 3. Her take-home pay was way more than the SS benefit Just some things to think about beyond just the SS payment itself.
I went through something very similar when my husband started collecting early retirement. The key thing to understand is that Social Security has something called the "family maximum benefit" which caps the total amount your family can receive based on the primary worker's earnings record. In your case, it sounds like you're already at or very close to that maximum ($2,170 for you + $756 each for wife and two kids = $4,438 total). When your wife stops her benefit to return to work, that $756 doesn't get redistributed to your children - it essentially just disappears from your family's total SS income. However, don't let that discourage you! When my husband and I ran the numbers, her returning to work was still financially beneficial because: - Her salary exceeded what she was getting from SS - We got employer health benefits - She could start building her own SS credits again for higher future benefits I'd recommend calling SSA directly to confirm your exact family maximum and get official guidance. Every situation is a bit different based on your specific earnings history.
I'm in this weird limbo with Social Security and don't know what to expect next. Back in June 2024, I applied to withdraw my retirement benefits (Form SSA-521) because I realized I could get higher survivor benefits after my husband passed away in May. I paid back all the benefits I'd received (about $14,500) within 2 weeks of submitting the withdrawal request. It's now January 2025 - SEVEN MONTHS later - and I still don't know if my withdrawal request is officially approved! The SSA rep I spoke with said my survivor claim is just sitting there waiting for the withdrawal to be finalized. Has anyone gone through this process? How long did it take for SSA to officially approve your withdrawal after you paid everything back? Did you get an official letter saying it was approved? I'm getting desperate since I have bills piling up and was counting on those survivor benefits starting months ago.
I went through almost the exact same situation when my wife passed away in 2023. Filed my withdrawal request in March, paid back everything within 3 weeks, and didn't get final approval until October - 7 months! What finally worked for me was going to my local SSA office with ALL my paperwork and asking to file a formal complaint about the delay. The supervisor there made some calls and discovered my withdrawal file had been sitting in someone's queue who was out on extended leave. They reassigned it and I got my approval letter 2 weeks later, then survivor benefits started the following month with full backpay. Don't give up - your timeline isn't normal even for SSA standards. Push for that supervisor meeting!
I'm so sorry you're going through this nightmare with SSA! Seven months is absolutely unacceptable, especially when you've already paid back everything they requested. I work in benefits advocacy and see this kind of bureaucratic limbo far too often. Here's what I'd recommend as immediate next steps: First, document EVERYTHING - every call, every rep you speak with, dates, times, what was said. Second, escalate beyond regular customer service by specifically requesting a "Post-Entitlement Technical Expert" as someone mentioned earlier. Third, if your local office visit doesn't produce results, file a formal complaint through SSA's Office of Inspector General (oig.ssa.gov). Most importantly, don't let them brush you off with "it's still processing" - demand specifics about WHY it's taking so long and what exactly needs to happen for approval. After 7 months with repayment confirmed, there's no legitimate reason for this delay. You deserve those survivor benefits and the backpay that comes with them. Keep fighting!
Thank you so much for this advice! As someone new to navigating SSA, I really appreciate the specific steps you've outlined. I've been feeling so lost and frustrated, but your point about demanding specifics instead of accepting "it's still processing" is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm going to start documenting everything from now on and definitely look into filing with the Office of Inspector General if my local office visit doesn't work out. It's reassuring to know that there are people like you advocating for folks caught in these bureaucratic nightmares. The system shouldn't be this difficult when people are already dealing with the loss of a spouse.
I'm frustrated with the new Social Security login requirements! Between May and July, SSA announced they were changing their login methods and warned about login problems after September 1st. Has anyone else been struggling with this? The new system demands TWO authentications - your user ID/password plus a second method. They give four options: 1. Using a third-party authentication app 2. A security code key 3. Text codes to your phone (which they say isn't very secure) 4. Some fourth method they actively discourage as least secure From what I can tell, the third-party app costs money, and the security key has to be purchased online (checked with Best Buy). The text code method seems like my only feasible option, but that makes me nervous since SSA themselves say it's not that secure. Has anyone figured out a good solution? What method are you using that doesn't cost extra money but is still reasonably secure? The SSA website says all logins created before September 2021 have to do this process. An SSA employee told me their system still runs on old DOS and outdated Windows for recordkeeping, which doesn't inspire confidence. Feels like we're in for a major headache with this transition.
So glad I found this thread!!! Been trying to figure out this exact problem all week. My phone is ancient and barely runs apps anymore - do I need to upgrade my phone to use the authenticator thing everyone's recommending? I really don't want to spend hundreds on a new phone just to check my SS benefits!
What kind of phone do you have? Google Authenticator works on pretty old Android phones (version 5.0+) and iPhones (iOS 11+). If your phone can still download apps from the app store, it'll probably work. If your phone truly can't handle it, the text message option, while less secure, is better than nothing. Or if you have a tablet or iPad that can run apps, you can install the authenticator on that device instead of your phone.
I went through this process last month. It was frustrating but worth it for the added security. Here's what I learned: 1. The authenticator apps are completely free and very secure. I use Authy because it has cloud backup (so if you lose your phone, you don't lose access). 2. The setup instructions on the SSA website are poorly written, but the process itself isn't complicated. 3. If you have any problems during setup, I highly recommend calling early in the morning (right when they open) to minimize wait times. 4. Once it's set up, logging in takes just a few seconds longer than before. Despite SSA's outdated systems, this authentication change is actually a positive security improvement. Identity theft targeting Social Security benefits has increased dramatically in recent years.
I've never heard of Authy before - is that better than Google Authenticator? The cloud backup feature sounds helpful in case something happens to my phone.
Yes, Authy has some nice advantages over Google Authenticator! The cloud backup is the biggest one - if you lose your phone or get a new one, you can restore all your accounts without having to re-setup each one individually. With Google Authenticator, if you lose your phone, you're basically locked out until you contact each service to reset your 2FA. Authy also lets you use it on multiple devices (like your phone AND tablet) which can be convenient. Both are equally secure for generating the codes, so it really comes down to those extra features. I switched from Google Authenticator to Authy after I had to painfully reset 2FA on like 8 different accounts when I dropped my phone in a lake last year!
Zoe Christodoulou
I'm 58 and going through similar planning right now! One thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet with different scenarios - claiming at 62 vs FRA vs 70, and calculating the breakeven points. Also worth noting that if you do claim early and later become eligible for spousal benefits, you can't just "switch" - you get the higher of your reduced benefit OR the spousal benefit (also reduced if you claimed early). But as everyone confirmed, survivor benefits are completely separate from this calculation. Have you considered doing a Social Security statement review? You can create an account at ssa.gov and see your projected benefits at different claiming ages. It really helps visualize the long-term impact of early claiming decisions.
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Nadia Zaldivar
That's a great suggestion about creating a spreadsheet! I've been trying to wrap my head around all the numbers and scenarios, but a visual breakdown would definitely help. I did create my ssa.gov account last month and looked at the projections, but seeing the breakeven points laid out would make the decision clearer. Thanks for the practical advice - sometimes the simplest tools are the most helpful when dealing with these complex Social Security rules!
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CosmicCommander
I'm 63 and actually just went through this decision last year. I can confirm everything you've heard is correct - I claimed my benefits early and the reduction did follow me when I later qualified for spousal benefits on my husband's record. But the survivor benefit rules are completely separate, which was a huge relief to learn. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier is to really run the numbers on your specific situation. I used the calculators on ssa.gov, but I also found a fee-only financial planner who specialized in Social Security planning. It cost me $500 for a comprehensive analysis, but it was worth every penny to see all the scenarios laid out clearly. The other thing that helped me was realizing that there's no universally "right" answer - it really depends on your health, your financial needs, your husband's earnings record, and your risk tolerance. I ended up claiming early because we needed the income and I have some health concerns, but my neighbor in a similar situation decided to wait. Both decisions made sense for our individual circumstances. Your research sounds solid, and this thread has great advice. Just make sure whatever you decide, you're comfortable with it and it fits your overall retirement plan!
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Amara Nnamani
Thank you for sharing your real-world experience! It's so helpful to hear from someone who has actually been through this decision recently. The idea of consulting with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security is brilliant - I hadn't thought of that approach, but $500 for a comprehensive analysis sounds like money well spent given how complex these decisions are and how much money is at stake over the long term. You make such an important point about there being no universally "right" answer. I keep trying to find the perfect strategy, but you're absolutely right that it comes down to individual circumstances. My situation involves needing some income soon but also wanting to optimize for the long term, and hearing that both you and your neighbor made different choices that were right for your respective situations is reassuring. I think I'm going to look into finding a Social Security specialist in my area. The peace of mind of having a professional review all the scenarios would be worth the cost, especially since this is such a one-time decision that I want to get right. Thanks for the practical advice and for confirming what everyone else has said about the survivor benefits - that really is the key piece that makes this whole decision feel more manageable!
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