Social Security payment received after death - do I return July benefit for my mother who died in August?
My mother passed away on August 9, 2024 at age 87. I'm handling her affairs as the executor, and I'm confused about her Social Security payment. Her July benefit payment was deposited into her account on August 3rd, but now the bank is telling me they need to return it to Social Security because she's deceased. I thought a person was entitled to their last month's payment if they were alive for any part of that month? The July payment seems legitimate since she was alive all of July, but I'm getting conflicting information. Does anyone know the actual SSA rules about this? Should I fight to keep the July payment in her account or let the bank return it? I need to get this right for the estate settlement.
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Emily Parker
I'm sorry for your loss. The bank is incorrect in this case. Your mother was entitled to her July payment because she was alive for the entire benefit month of July. Social Security benefits are paid in arrears (a month behind), so the July payment arriving in August is correct and belongs to her estate. What Social Security WILL recall is any payment made for August (usually deposited in September). The rule is that a beneficiary must be alive for the entire month to be entitled to that month's payment. Since she passed on August 9, no August benefit is payable. Call your local SSA office immediately with her death certificate and explain the situation. They can verify this information and may be able to contact the bank directly if needed.
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Justin Evans
•Thank you so much for the clear explanation. That's exactly what I thought! I'll call SSA tomorrow morning and get this straightened out with the bank. I was pretty sure the July payment was legitimate since she was alive the whole month.
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Ezra Collins
My dad died last year and we went thru the same thing!! The bank froze his account and wanted to send back his last check but my sister raised holy hell with them because it was for the PREVIOUS month when he was alive. We finally got it sorted but took like 3 visits to the bank with paperwork. Good luck!!
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Justin Evans
•Thanks for sharing your experience. It's good to know I'm not the only one dealing with this confusion. Did you have to bring any specific documentation from SSA to prove to the bank that the payment should stay in the account?
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Victoria Scott
The bank is following standard procedure, but they don't always understand Social Security payment rules. Here's what's happening: 1) Social Security payments are made in arrears - the July payment is for living through July 2) A person must be alive for the FULL month to receive benefits for that month 3) Since your mother was alive all of July, her estate is entitled to the July payment 4) Since she died in August, there should be NO August payment (usually paid in September) You need to contact SSA at 1-800-772-1213 right away. They can provide documentation to the bank confirming the July payment belongs to her estate. Also notify them of her death if you haven't already.
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Justin Evans
•Thank you for breaking down the rules so clearly. I've been calling the 800 number for two days but can't get through - just endless hold times and then disconnections. So frustrating trying to resolve this while also dealing with grief.
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Benjamin Johnson
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Justin Evans
•That sounds like exactly what I need right now! After trying for the third time today and getting disconnected after 45 minutes on hold, I'm at my wit's end. I'll check out that service - thanks for the recommendation.
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Zara Perez
BANKS DO THIS ALL THE TIME!!! They automatically freeze accounts and return SS payments when someone dies regardless of which month it's for!!! When my husband died the bank sent back TWO MONTHS of his payments and it took me 6 MONTHS to get the money back that was rightfully his!!! You need to be VERY FIRM with both the bank AND Social Security!
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Daniel Rogers
•Actually, the bank is required by Regulation E and ACH rules to return payments after death notification. They're just following the law. It's not their fault - it's up to SSA to reissue the correct payments. That's why you need to work with SSA directly, not just the bank.
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Zara Perez
•WRONG!!! The bank manager told ME they made a MISTAKE sending back my husband's payment for the month BEFORE he died!!! They admitted they shouldn't have done that!! Don't defend these big banks they make MISTAKES all the time!!
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Aaliyah Reed
sorry about ur mom. my grandma died last year and we had this exact same problem. the july payment is definitely hers since she was alive all july. thats how ss works - u get paid for the month after u live through it. just tell the bank that.
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Justin Evans
•Thank you. It seems everyone agrees that the July payment should stay in her account. I appreciate you sharing your experience with your grandmother's situation.
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Daniel Rogers
To clarify the official Social Security rules on this topic: - Social Security benefits are paid in the month following the month for which they are due (e.g., July benefits paid in August) - A beneficiary must be alive through the entire month to be entitled to benefits for that month - Any benefits received for months after death must be returned In your case, since your mother was alive throughout all of July, her estate is entitled to the July benefit payment (received in August). The bank should not return this payment. However, notify SSA of her death promptly (if you haven't already) to prevent an August payment from being issued in September, as that would need to be returned. Reference: SSA POMS GN 02408.001 - Underpayments - General
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Justin Evans
•Thank you for the official reference! That's incredibly helpful. I did report her death to SSA through the funeral home, but I'll follow up to make sure they processed it correctly.
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Victoria Scott
After you get this sorted out, don't forget there might be a one-time death benefit of $255 payable to a surviving spouse or dependent child. If neither exists, this payment isn't made to the estate. It's a small amount but every bit helps with final expenses.
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Justin Evans
•Thank you for mentioning that. My father is still living (they were married 65 years), so I'll make sure he applies for that benefit. Every little bit helps with all the expenses.
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Ezra Collins
when my aunt died we had to pay back money that came AFTER she died but not the money for when she was alive. i think your bank doesnt understand ss rules. good luck!!!
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