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Benjamin Kim

Social Security final payment question - aunt died mid-October, eligible for November payment?

My aunt passed away on October 25, 2024 and I'm trying to figure out the Social Security payment situation as trustee of her estate. She received her regular SS retirement payment in October, but I'm confused about whether her estate is entitled to the November payment (which I understand would've been for October). Since she didn't live the entire month of October, I'm not sure if that affects eligibility. Has anyone dealt with this before? What happens to the final Social Security payment when someone passes away mid-month? Any guidance would be appreciated!

I'm sorry for your loss. This is a common question with a somewhat counterintuitive answer. Social Security benefits are paid in arrears - meaning the payment received in October was actually for September, and the November payment would be for October. Since your aunt lived for most of October, her estate IS entitled to the October payment (which would arrive in November). You'll need to contact SSA to report her passing if you haven't already, and they'll guide you through the process for the estate to receive that final payment.

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Thank you so much for explaining that! I did call SSA to report her passing but they didn't explain this clearly. So the payment that would come in November is actually FOR October, and since she was alive most of October, her estate should receive it? Do I need to submit a special form for this?

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My condolences on your aunt. When my father died last year, we were SO CONFUSED about this exact issue! The SSA representative told us different things every time we called. Eventually we learned that YES, the estate was entitled to the final payment because he lived most of that month. But then they took back his direct deposit and we had to file some form to get it reissued to the estate. The whole thing was a nightmare honestly.

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Let me clear this up based on my experience as a former SSA employee. Social Security benefits are paid the month AFTER they are due. The check received on October 3rd (or whenever your aunt's payment date was) covered September. The November payment would cover October, and since your aunt was alive for 25 days in October, her estate is entitled to that payment. You'll need to file Form SSA-1724 (Claim for Amounts Due in the Case of a Deceased Beneficiary). This needs to be submitted by the legal representative of the estate, which sounds like it's you as the trustee.

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thx for explaining this! my grandpa died last month and we've been so confused about his final check

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When someone recives Social Security benefits, the payment is for the PREVIOUS month, not the current one. So November payment = October benefits. But there's another rule that says the person must be alive through the entire month to get benefits for that month. So in your case, since your aunt died in October, she wouldn't be eligible for November benefits (December payment). But she should get October benefits (November payment) because she was alive for most of October. Hope that makes sense!

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This isn't actually right. My mother passed in 2023 and we found out the hard way that you have to live the ENTIRE MONTH to get benefits for that month. So since the aunt died on October 25, her estate would NOT be entitled to the October benefits (paid in November). This is one of those really frustrating SS rules that doesn't seem fair, but that's how it works.

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I need to correct the information here. For Social Security retirement benefits, if the person dies ANY time during the month, NO benefit is payable for the month of death. The last benefit the person is entitled to is for the month BEFORE death. So in this case, the aunt who died in October would be entitled to September's benefit (paid in October), but not October's benefit (which would have been paid in November). This is different from SSI rules, which is why there's often confusion. You can verify this on the SSA website or by calling them directly.

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As others have mentioned, Social Security benefits are paid in arrears (the payment received in October was for September). However, there's an important distinction: for retirement benefits, if a person dies during a month, no benefit is payable for the month of death regardless of what day they died. So, since your aunt passed in October, her last valid payment was for September (received in October). Her estate would NOT be entitled to October's benefit that would have been paid in November. You should make sure SSA knows about her passing so they don't issue an improper payment that would need to be returned.

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Thank you for this clarification. The conflicting information is so confusing! So just to make sure I understand correctly - the October payment she already received (for September) was her final eligible payment, and no November payment should be expected since she died in October, even though she lived most of the month? That seems harsh but I want to make sure I get this right.

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Here's the official rule from SSA: Benefits are not payable for the month of death regardless of what day in the month the person dies. So your aunt's September benefit (paid in October) was her final eligible payment. No payment would be due for October (which would've been paid in November) because she passed during the month of October. I know it doesn't seem fair, but that's the consistent policy. If you're getting different information when calling, ask specifically about the 'month of death' payment rule for retirement benefits.

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Thank you for being so clear! I appreciate everyone's help understanding this. So I won't expect any November payment. And if one does arrive, I'll know it was sent in error and would need to be returned.

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My mom died last year and we got SO confused about this! We actually got an extra payment after she died and then had to pay it back which was a huge hassle. Make sure u call them right away

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Yes, this is a common issue. If direct deposit continues after death and funds are withdrawn or spent, the bank or family members may have to repay those funds to SSA. It's important to notify both SSA and the bank of the death as soon as possible.

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Trying to reach SSA to sort out these benefit questions has been a NIGHTMARE for my family. We spent HOURS on hold trying to figure out my grandmother's final payments. Has anyone found a better way to reach them?

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I've had success using the Claimyr service (claimyr.com) to get through to SSA phone lines. They hold your place in line and call you when an agent is available. Saved me hours of wait time when dealing with my father's estate. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. For death reporting and final payment questions, you definitely want to speak directly with an agent rather than trying to handle it online.

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Thank you!!! I'll definitely check this out. Anything that saves time on hold is worth it at this point.

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My condelences on ur loss. When I was executor for my sister I learned that you need to notify social security ASAP so they don't keep sending payments. They will actually take back any payment sent for the month the person died in. Also, FYI there's a small one-time death benefit of $255 that someone might be eligible for (usually goes to the spouse but sometimes can go to dependent children).

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Thank you for the condolences and the tip about the death benefit. My aunt wasn't married and didn't have dependent children, so I guess that wouldn't apply. But good to know for others!

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I'm sorry for your loss, Benjamin. This thread has been really helpful in clarifying the rules - I was confused about this exact situation when my uncle passed last year. Just wanted to add that when you do call SSA to report the death, make sure to ask for a confirmation number or letter showing that you've reported it. We had issues later where different departments at SSA didn't seem to have the death reported in their system, and having that confirmation helped resolve things faster. Also, if your aunt had any direct deposits set up, you might want to contact her bank as well to let them know about the passing - they can help prevent any complications if SSA does accidentally send a payment.

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That's really smart advice about getting a confirmation number! I've been dealing with so many different government agencies since my aunt passed and it seems like nothing ever gets communicated between departments. I'll definitely ask for that when I call. And yes, I should probably contact her bank too - I hadn't thought about that but it makes sense to give them a heads up. Thanks for sharing your experience, it's really helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Benjamin. This has been such a helpful thread to read through! I went through something similar when my father passed away two years ago, and the information about the "month of death" rule is spot on. Just wanted to add one thing that might be useful - when you call SSA, it can be really helpful to have your aunt's Social Security number, date of birth, and date of death ready, along with documentation that you're the trustee of her estate. They'll likely ask for proof of your authority to act on behalf of the estate before they'll discuss specific payment details with you. Also, if you haven't already, you might want to check if she had any other federal benefits (like Medicare) that also need to be reported. The funeral home sometimes handles the SSA death reporting, but it's worth double-checking that it was actually done.

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Thank you Isabella, this is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed! I do have all her documentation ready including my trustee papers, but I hadn't thought about checking whether the funeral home reported the death to SSA. I just assumed I needed to do it myself. That's a great point about other federal benefits too - she did have Medicare so I should probably check on that as well. It's overwhelming dealing with all these different agencies when you're already grieving, but threads like this really help navigate the process. I really appreciate everyone who has shared their experiences here.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Benjamin. As someone who works in estate administration, I can confirm what others have said about the "month of death" rule - it's unfortunately very strict. Since your aunt passed in October, her estate won't be entitled to any payment for October (which would have been paid in November). The September payment she received in October was indeed her final eligible benefit. One thing I'd add is to make sure you keep detailed records of all your communications with SSA, including dates, times, and the names of representatives you speak with. Also, if you haven't already done so, you might want to contact her bank to freeze her account temporarily until you can get everything sorted out with the estate. This prevents any potential complications if SSA accidentally issues a payment that would then need to be returned. The whole process can be overwhelming while you're grieving, but you're doing the right thing by getting informed about the rules upfront.

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