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Jean Claude

Social Security death benefit timing - when will SS withdraw my dad's final payment?

My dad passed away in early September, and I'm handling his affairs. I know Social Security takes back the last month's payment when someone dies, but I'm confused about the timing. His September payment went into his checking account as usual on the 3rd Wednesday (he received SS retirement), but they haven't withdrawn it back yet. Strangely, no October payment came (which makes sense), but they still haven't pulled back the September payment even though we're now well into November. I'm using his account to pay his final bills, medical expenses, and funeral costs. I need to keep enough money in there for when SS does the withdrawal, but I don't want to leave too much sitting there either. Has anyone experienced this? How long does SS typically take to withdraw that final payment? Is there something I need to do to trigger this process?

my mom died last yr and they took back her last month payment like 6 weeks later. came as a big surprise cause nobody told us they would do that! almost caused her account to be overdrawn

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Thanks for sharing your experience. 6 weeks would put us right about now. I'll make sure to keep enough funds in the account for a while longer then. Did you have to notify SS about your mom's passing or did they find out some other way?

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I'm sorry for your loss. When Social Security takes back the payment depends on when they were notified of the death. They'll reclaim the benefit for the month of death because benefits are paid in arrears - meaning September's benefit is actually for August. The payment received in September was for August, which he was entitled to since he was alive the entire month. If he died in September, you're correct that there should be no October payment (which would have been for September). If you haven't already, you need to report his death to Social Security at 1-800-772-1213. They may already know from the funeral home reporting it, which could explain why October's payment didn't arrive. The withdrawal usually happens within 1-2 months once they've processed the death information.

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Thank you for explaining! I did report his death to SSA when I called about the survivor benefits, and the funeral home said they would report it as well. I was confused because I thought they would take back September's payment (which was for August), but your explanation makes sense. So since he lived all through August, that payment was rightfully his and they won't take it back? It's the potential October payment (for September) that wouldn't come because he didn't live all of September?

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The most important thing is to make sure Social Security knows about the death. If the funeral home reported it, that's usually enough, but it doesn't hurt to follow up with the SSA directly. As for timing, in my experience they typically reclaim the funds within 45-60 days, but it can sometimes take longer. Keep in mind that Social Security benefits are paid for the previous month. So the payment received in September was actually for August. If your father was alive for all of August, he was entitled to that payment. Social Security will NOT take back a payment if the person was alive for the entire month the payment was for. It sounds like they already stopped the October payment (which would have been for September, when he passed), which means they know about his death. You should be fine to use the September payment for his expenses since that was for August when he was alive.

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but if he died sept 1st or 2nd then what? my uncle died on the 2nd day of month and they took the whole payment back even tho he lived most of previous month

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I went through exactly this when my wife passed away last year. Such a confusing and stressful time! Here's what I learned: 1. Social Security pays benefits for the previous month (payment in September = for August) 2. If the person lived the entire month, they're entitled to that benefit 3. The October payment didn't come because your dad wasn't alive all of September 4. They shouldn't withdraw the September payment if he was alive all of August BUT - if you're dealing with the SS death benefit (the one-time $255 payment), that's a different story and will be paid to the eligible survivor. Have you applied for this yet? I spent WEEKS trying to get through to Social Security to get everything sorted out. Ended up using a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a live agent in under 5 minutes when I'd been trying for days. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me so much frustration during an already difficult time.

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Thank you for sharing your experience and the clear explanation. My dad was alive all of August, so based on what you're saying, they shouldn't withdraw the September payment. That's a relief! I did apply for the death benefit when I called SSA, but they said only my mom would be eligible for it (they were still married). I'll check out that Claimyr service - I've been trying to get through to confirm everything is processed correctly and it's been impossible. Really appreciate the tip!

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Social security is so confusing!!! when my husband passed they didnt take ANY money back but with my sister they took back the last payment!! Makes NO SENSE how they decide these things. I think it depends on who you talk to at SS and what mood their in that day Keep AT LEAST $1500 in that account for like 3 months to be safe. thats what I did. better safe than sorry!!!

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It's not about mood or who you talk to. The rules are clear - it's about when the person died and what month the payment was for. If your husband died at the end of a month after receiving that month's payment, they wouldn't take it back. If your sister died early in a month after getting paid for the previous month, they also wouldn't take it back. But if either received a payment for a month they weren't alive for the entire time, SS would take it back.

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wait so do they always take back the last payment?? my grandma died last month and we didn't know this!

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They don't always take back the last payment. Here's the simple rule: - Social Security benefits are for the PREVIOUS month (October payment = September benefit) - If the person was alive for the ENTIRE month, they're entitled to that month's benefit - If they died during a month, they aren't entitled to that month's benefit Example: If your grandma died in October, she was entitled to September's benefit (paid in October). The November payment (which would be for October) won't come because she wasn't alive all of October. However, if SS wasn't notified of her death in time, they might have issued an improper payment that they'll later reclaim. That's why it's important to notify them promptly.

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you should also look into the lump sum death benefit from SS. its only $255 but hey thats still something. i think spouse or dependent child can get it.

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Yes, thanks for mentioning that. I did ask about it when I called SSA to report my dad's death. They said my mom would be eligible since they were still married. Just waiting for that to process now.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jean Claude. Going through this bureaucracy while grieving is incredibly difficult. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you're in a good position - since your dad was alive for all of August, that September payment (which was for August) should rightfully stay in his account. The fact that no October payment came suggests SS already knows about his passing and stopped future payments appropriately. I'd recommend keeping a buffer in the account for another month or so just to be absolutely safe, but from everything I've read here, you should be able to use those funds for his final expenses without worry. The $255 death benefit for your mom is a separate matter and should come through eventually - these things just take time unfortunately. Have you considered getting everything in writing from SS just for your peace of mind? Sometimes having that documentation helps when you're managing an estate.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jean Claude. What you're going through sounds incredibly stressful on top of an already difficult time. From everything I've read here, it sounds like you can breathe a little easier - that September payment should be yours to keep since it was for August when your dad was alive the whole month. I went through something similar with my grandmother a few years back, and the waiting and uncertainty was honestly the worst part. We kept expecting them to take money back but they never did because she was entitled to that final payment. The fact that they already stopped the October payment shows the system is working correctly. I'd echo what others have said about keeping maybe $500-1000 as a buffer for another month or two, just for peace of mind. But based on everyone's experiences here, you should be able to move forward with using those funds for his final expenses. Have you been able to get through to SS at all recently to check on the status? I know it's nearly impossible sometimes, but if you can get someone on the phone, asking for written confirmation of everything might save you some worry down the road. Hang in there - you're doing everything right in a really tough situation.

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Thank you, Mei Lin. Your grandmother's experience really mirrors what everyone else has been sharing - it seems like when the person was alive for the entire month that the payment covers, Social Security doesn't take it back. The waiting and uncertainty really is the hardest part, especially when you're trying to manage final expenses and don't know what funds you'll have available. I haven't been able to get through to SS recently - the wait times are just impossible. But several people have mentioned that Claimyr service that helps you get connected faster. I might try that to get the written confirmation everyone's recommending. Having that documentation would definitely help me sleep better at night knowing exactly where things stand. The $500-1000 buffer range seems to be the consensus here, which feels very manageable. Thank you for sharing your experience and for the encouragement. This community has been such a source of support during what feels like navigating a maze blindfolded.

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