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Do I need to repay October Social Security payment from deceased father's frozen account?

My father passed away on January 18, 2025, but had already received his Social Security payment for January. Social Security has a policy of taking back the payment for the month of death, which I understand. The problem is, all his bank accounts were immediately frozen when I reported his death - nothing can go in OR out until legal matters are resolved. I've since gone through probate court to become the personal representative for his estate (it's small enough to qualify for simplified procedures), closed his original accounts, received an EIN from the IRS, and opened a new estate account. Now I'm confused about what to do regarding that January Social Security payment. Do I need to contact SSA about the new estate account? Should I proactively return the January payment from the estate account? Or will SSA somehow be automatically notified and reclaim the payment themselves? I'm trying to handle everything correctly and don't want any issues down the road. This is my first time dealing with all these estate matters.

You'll need to contact SSA about this. When a beneficiary passes away, SSA automatically stops payments once they're notified of the death (usually through vital records), but retrieving that final payment requires account information. Since the bank accounts are frozen and you've opened a new estate account, they don't have the current information to retrieve the funds. Call the SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to report the change in account information and discuss repayment of the January benefit. Make sure to have your father's Social Security number, death certificate, and your court appointment documentation ready.

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Thank you for this information. I've been dreading calling SSA because their lines are always so busy. Do you know if there's a specific department I should ask for when I finally get through? And how long do I typically have before this becomes a problem? I'm trying to handle everything in the right order.

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sorry about ur dad. my mom passed 2 yrs ago and we had same issue. SS will figure it out eventually and send u a letter asking for it back. they gave us like 30 days to repay. dont stress too much about calling them right away, they already know he passed away

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Thanks for the condolences. So they automatically knew and contacted you? That would be a relief. I'm just worried about them trying to withdraw from his old closed account and then hitting me with penalties or something.

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You should definitely be proactive here. I was in a nearly identical situation with my mother's estate in 2024. SSA will eventually discover the payment needs to be returned, but they'll try to reclaim it from the original account first. When that fails, it creates complications. Here's what you need to do: 1. Contact SSA and inform them of your father's death 2. Tell them you're the court-appointed representative for the estate 3. Provide them with the new estate account information 4. Ask about the process for returning the January payment Having gone through this, I strongly recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to reach SSA by phone. It saved me hours of waiting and disconnected calls. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. I was able to talk to someone at SSA within 20 minutes instead of trying for days.

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is claimyr legit tho?? i need to call SSA too about my widows benefits but ive been putting it off cuz the wait is so long. idk about giving my info to some random service

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Yes, it's legitimate. I was skeptical too, but it works exactly as advertised. They don't change anything about your interaction with SSA - they just get you through the phone queue faster. The SSA representative I spoke with had no idea I'd used a service to reach them. Given how time-sensitive estate matters can be, it was worth it for me.

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SSA IS THE WORST ABOUT THIS STUFF!!! My husband died in 2023 and they STILL randomly send letters about the "overpayment" from his death month. I called FIVE TIMES and they said it was resolved each time!!! Now they're threatening to reduce MY survivor benefits if I don't pay back money I ALREADY RETURNED!!! DOCUMENT EVERYTHING when you call. Get names, ID numbers of reps, confirmation numbers. Don't trust them when they say it's handled!!!

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Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare! I'm so sorry you're still dealing with that. I'll definitely document everything carefully. This is making me even more anxious about handling this correctly.

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This type of situation is exactly why it's important to handle everything through official channels and keep detailed records. While these problems are frustrating, they're not typical. The majority of cases are resolved correctly when properly reported. Always request written confirmation of any resolution.

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My brother died last year and nobody told SS. They kept depositing his checks for 4 months before they found out. Then they wanted ALL the money back at once. The lady at the SS office said they have a 'death match program' with vital records but sometimes it misses people. So they probably already know about your dad but maybe not? Better to tell them yourself I think.

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Yes, I did report his death to SSA when it happened - I just wasn't sure about the process for returning that last payment since his accounts were frozen and then closed. It sounds like I definitely need to call them and explain the situation with the new estate account.

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When my aunt passed the funeral home notified SSA as part of their services. Maybe check if that happened in your case too? But either way you still need to call about the payment issue.

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One important thing to note: there's an official process for this situation. SSA Form SSA-1724 ("Request for Repayment from Underpaid Beneficiary's Estate") is sometimes used when returning payments to SSA from an estate. When you call, ask if this form is needed in your case. Also, be aware that you generally have 30-60 days from when SSA sends the overpayment notice to arrange repayment before they might take further action. Since you're being proactive, you shouldn't have any issues.

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Thank you! I didn't know about that form. I'll definitely ask about it when I call. I appreciate the specific information - it helps to know what to ask for.

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just wondering, how much was the payment anyway? my grandpa only got like $1200/month so its not like they're coming after huge money

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His monthly benefit was about $2,450. Not an enormous amount, but definitely enough that I want to make sure it's handled properly. Plus, I don't want any complications with the estate closing.

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Wait I'm confused about something. Does SSA always take back the payment for the month someone dies? My mom died on Jan 31st last year and they didn't ask for that money back. Is it different if they die at end of month vs beginning??

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Social Security benefits are paid for the previous month. So the payment received in February is actually for January. If someone dies in January, they aren't entitled to the January payment (which would be received in February). But if someone dies on January 31st, they lived for the entire month of January, so they're entitled to keep that payment. The payment received in January was actually for December of the previous year, which they were alive for. It's about the month the payment represents, not when it was received.

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OH! That makes sense now, thanks for explaining. So the person who started this thread, their dad died in January and the January payment (received in January) was actually for December so they should be able to keep it? Or am I still confused?

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No, that's not quite right. The payment received in January is for December (which they're entitled to keep). But if SSA sent a payment in February (for January), that's the one that would need to be returned since the person wasn't alive for the entire month of January. In the original poster's case, it sounds like their father received the January payment (for December) before he died on January 18th, and that's the payment SSA would reclaim because payments are paid in arrears.

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Update: I finally got through to SSA today. You all were right - I needed to call them and explain the situation with the new estate account. They're sending me a form to complete and return with a copy of the death certificate and my court appointment papers. They said once they process that paperwork, they'll send instructions for returning the payment. Thanks everyone for your help!

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Glad you got it resolved! Did you end up having a long wait time to speak with someone?

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Yes, I was on hold for over an hour and got disconnected twice before finally getting through. Wish I'd known about that Claimyr service you mentioned before I spent half my day on this! But at least it's handled now.

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