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Can I collect FERS supplement and Social Security survivor benefits simultaneously from age 60-62?

Hi everyone, I'm really confused about the rules between FERS and Social Security survivor benefits and hoping someone can clarify. My situation: I'm retiring from federal service at age 57 next year with 33 years of service. I'll be getting my FERS pension and the special retirement supplement until I turn 62. Here's where it gets complicated. My husband passed away last year, and I'll be eligible for Social Security survivor benefits when I turn 60. I've called the SSA office twice and received completely different answers about whether I can collect BOTH the FERS supplement AND the survivor benefit from age 60-62. The first rep said absolutely not - the FERS supplement counts as the same type of benefit. The second rep said they don't affect each other at all and I can collect both simultaneously. I plan to switch to my own Social Security at 62 (which will be around $2,400/month) since it's significantly higher than the survivor benefit ($1,750/month). At that point, my FERS supplement will stop anyway. I won't have any earned income during this period, so the earnings test isn't a factor. Has anyone navigated this specific situation successfully? I'd appreciate any insights before I try visiting my local SSA office in person.

Thank you all so much for your helpful responses! I'm feeling much more confident now. I'm going to schedule an in-person appointment at my local SSA office and bring all my FERS documentation clearly showing it's the supplement. I'll make sure they document in my file that I'm eligible for both benefits simultaneously. It's frustrating that there's so much conflicting information out there, even from SSA representatives themselves. I'm glad I checked here before making any decisions. I'll update after my appointment in case it helps anyone else in a similar situation.

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Best of luck with your appointment! You're doing exactly the right thing by going in person with documentation. Just to add one more tip - if possible, try to get the name and employee ID of whoever helps you at the SSA office. That way if any issues come up later, you can reference who provided the guidance. Also, consider asking them to print out or email you a summary of what was discussed/approved. I know it sounds excessive, but given how many conflicting answers you've gotten, having that paper trail could save you a lot of headaches down the road. Please do update us after your appointment - these kinds of real-world experiences are so valuable for others navigating the same waters!

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Can I apply for SSDI at 66 if already receiving Social Security retirement benefits?

I've been receiving my regular Social Security retirement benefits since I turned 65 last year. Unfortunately, my health has significantly declined over the past 6 months due to severe rheumatoid arthritis and a heart condition. I can no longer work my part-time job at the hardware store that was supplementing my retirement income. My medical bills are piling up, and I'm wondering if I can now apply for disability (SSDI) benefits even though I'm already receiving retirement? I'm 66 now, so I know I'm at full retirement age (FRA), but I'm desperate for additional income. What are my chances of getting approved if I apply? Would it even increase my monthly payment amount? Any advice from those who've been through this would be greatly appreciated.

To clarify for everyone: SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) and retirement benefits are essentially the same benefit pool. At full retirement age, disability benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits - they are not separate programs you can receive simultaneously. For the original poster, since you mentioned medical expenses, I strongly recommend: 1. Medicare Savings Programs (MSP) - can help pay Medicare premiums and in some cases deductibles/coinsurance 2. Extra Help program - assists with prescription drug costs 3. State Pharmaceutical Assistance Programs (SPAPs) - additional medication help in many states 4. Medicaid - if your income and resources are low enough Contact your State Health Insurance Assistance Program (SHIP) for free counseling on these options. They can help determine what you qualify for.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive information. I had no idea about some of these programs. I'll contact SHIP right away to see what I might qualify for. It's been overwhelming trying to navigate all this while dealing with health issues.

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I'm sorry to hear about your health struggles and financial stress. The other members here have given you excellent advice about SSDI not being available once you're receiving retirement benefits. One additional resource I'd suggest is contacting 211 (dial 2-1-1 from any phone). They're a helpline that connects people with local assistance programs for things like utility bills, food assistance, transportation, and medical bill help. They often know about local charities and programs that aren't widely advertised. Also, if you haven't already, speak with a social worker at your doctor's office or hospital - they usually have lists of patient assistance programs and foundations that help with medical expenses for people with conditions like rheumatoid arthritis and heart disease. Some pharmaceutical companies also offer patient assistance programs that can significantly reduce medication costs. Hang in there - there are resources available even if SSDI isn't an option.

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How to change direct deposit bank account for Social Security benefits without losing payments?

I'm finally switching from my old bank (where I've been for 20+ years) to a credit union with better rates. Need to update my direct deposit info for my Social Security retirement benefits but I'm really nervous about messing something up. My neighbor said her payments got delayed for over 6 weeks when she changed banks! I absolutely cannot afford to miss a payment - my mortgage and medication costs depend on that money arriving on time. Do I need to visit my local SS office in person? Can I do this online? How far in advance should I make this change? Will there be a gap where I don't receive my benefits? The last thing I need is some computer glitch sending my $2,475 monthly payment into the void!

Update: I just spoke with my sister about what happened with her missing payments. Turns out she had entered her routing number wrong when doing it online (she typed a 3 instead of an 8). So I guess the online system DOES work if you're super careful about the numbers. Just triple-check everything!!

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Oh that's actually reassuring! I'll definitely double and triple check the numbers. Did she eventually get her missed payments or were they just gone?

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Yes she got them eventually! She had to go to the office in person to sort it out, and they issued a special payment to her new account once they verified the correct info. Took about 3 weeks to resolve though.

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As someone who recently went through this exact process, I can confirm the online method works well if you're careful! I switched from a big bank to a local credit union last fall. Here's what worked for me: 1) I logged into my SSA account about 10 days before my payment date (I get paid on the 2nd Wednesday since I was born on the 12th) 2) Had my new bank's routing number and account number written down on paper - didn't rely on typing from memory 3) The confirmation screen showed my change would take effect with the next payment 4) I kept both accounts open for 2 months just to be extra safe The whole process took maybe 5 minutes online. My first payment went to the new account right on schedule. The key is definitely having the correct bank information and not rushing through the entry fields. I also took screenshots of every confirmation page for my records. One tip: call your new bank beforehand to confirm they accept ACH deposits and ask them to read you the routing number over the phone so you can verify what you have written down is correct!

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Social Security dilemma: Collect early and invest vs waiting until FRA - which strategy wins financially?

I'm trying to decide the best financial strategy for my Social Security benefits. I'm currently 62 and eligible to start collecting, but I keep going back and forth on what makes the most sense. I've been looking at two scenarios: 1) Wait until my Full Retirement Age (67) to collect the full benefit amount 2) Start collecting at 62 (reduced amount), but continue working just as I would in scenario #1. The twist is that I'd bank all the SS money and invest it in an S&P 500 index fund, paying taxes on it along the way. I've heard conflicting advice about what yields better results long-term. I understand I'd take about a 30% reduction by filing early, but that's 5 years of payments I could be investing. For those who've run the numbers or actually done this, what downsides should I be considering for each approach? Are there factors beyond just the math that I should think about? My health is good, and longevity runs in my family if that matters.

my sister took it early and my brother waited and they both complain all the time so maybe it doesnt matter lol. social security isnt enough money either way these days

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As someone who's been wrestling with this exact decision for the past year, I really appreciate all the detailed responses here. The earnings test factor that @Everett Tutum and @Aria Khan mentioned completely changes the equation for me - I hadn't fully grasped how significantly it would impact the "take early and invest" strategy. I've been running some preliminary numbers, and it seems like for someone in my situation (planning to work full-time until 67 with earnings well above the limit), the earnings test essentially forces you into a modified waiting strategy anyway. You file early but don't actually receive much benefit to invest until closer to FRA. One question I haven't seen addressed: for those who did take early benefits while still working, how did the annual earnings test calculations work out in practice? Did you find the SSA was accurate in their withholding estimates, or were there surprises come tax time? I'm leaning toward just waiting until FRA at this point, but I'd love to hear from anyone who's actually navigated the earnings test scenario successfully.

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SSI 'sharing household expenses' rules changed? No longer including groceries in fair share calculation?

I'm trying to help my sister apply for an increase in her SSI payments by showing she pays her fair share of household expenses. She lives with our mom but contributes money toward expenses. The SSA caseworker told us we only need to calculate her portion of rent/mortgage and utilities, and that groceries are no longer included in the 'fair share' calculation. This seems different from what I remember reading before. Has anyone else heard about this change? Could the caseworker be mistaken? My sister's current SSI is reduced because they've been considering her living situation as 'in-kind support' so I want to make sure we submit the right documentation to fix this.

I'm new to this community and SSI rules, but this thread has been absolutely invaluable! My disabled brother is in a very similar situation where we're trying to prove he pays his fair share of household expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences, what strikes me most is how much variation there seems to be between different SSA offices and caseworkers - it's honestly both helpful and concerning to know this inconsistency exists. Your sister's contributions of $425 for rent and $150 for utilities ($575 total) definitely sound like they should qualify as fair share in a two-person household, regardless of whether food expenses are included. That's a substantial monthly contribution that clearly demonstrates she's paying her way. I'm taking detailed notes on all the advice here about documenting everything - even expenses the caseworker says aren't needed. The suggestion about getting any guidance in writing from your caseworker is particularly smart given all the conflicting information people are sharing. I wouldn't have thought of that protection, but it makes perfect sense if interpretations change or you get assigned to a different worker. The mention of Claimyr for actually reaching SSA agents caught my attention too - we've had terrible experiences with wait times when trying to get clarification on policies. Has that service worked well for others here? Thanks for starting this discussion - the real-world knowledge being shared is so much more practical than anything I could find in official resources. It's clear that being over-prepared with documentation is key to success with these fair share calculations!

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I'm new to this community and SSI rules, but this thread has been incredibly helpful! My grandfather is currently receiving SSI and lives with our family, and we've been trying to understand these fair share calculations for weeks. What's really striking from everyone's experiences is how much inconsistency there seems to be between different SSA offices - some focusing only on housing costs while others requiring comprehensive documentation including food expenses. Your sister's payments of $425 for rent and $150 for utilities definitely sound substantial for a two-person household and should qualify as fair share regardless of the food calculation debate. I'm taking notes on all the advice about documenting everything even if the caseworker says it's not needed - that seems like the safest approach given all the conflicting experiences people are sharing. The suggestion about getting guidance in writing from your caseworker is really smart - I wouldn't have thought of that but it makes perfect sense as protection if policies change or you get assigned to a different worker. Also, the mention of Claimyr for actually reaching SSA agents quickly caught my attention since we've had terrible wait times too. Thanks for starting this discussion - the real-world knowledge being shared here is so much more practical than trying to navigate the official guidelines alone. It's giving me confidence about how to approach this process when we need to establish fair share for my grandfather's situation!

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