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im confused - i thought you HAD to file for spousal benefits??? my neighbor gets a spousal benefit from her husband's record but she had to specifically ask for it when she went to the ss office

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Your neighbor may have been grandfathered into the old rules. For people born before January 2, 1954, they could choose to take only spousal benefits while letting their own retirement benefit grow. But due to changes from the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, anyone born January 2, 1954 or later is subject to deemed filing, meaning they automatically apply for all benefits they're eligible for when they file. The SSA will pay whichever benefit amount is higher, but not both.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I feel much better now understanding that my decision to file at my FRA won't negatively impact my husband's future benefits. I'll definitely check my earnings record as suggested and make sure everything is accurate before I submit my application. I appreciate all of your insights and personal experiences!

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You're welcome! One last tip: when you do apply, print out your application confirmation page and keep records of everything. It's also good practice to check your bank account around the expected deposit date to make sure your payment arrives as scheduled. Your first payment should arrive the month after your birthday month (so August, in your case).

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btw when my mom applied she needed marriage certificate divorce papers death certificate and proof of her pension amount. took like 3 months to process everything

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One additional point worth mentioning: If your mother is getting misinformation at her local office, she can request to speak with a Technical Expert who specializes in survivor benefits and the GPO. Not all SSA representatives are equally familiar with these provisions. Also, remind her that even if she's only eligible for a small monthly amount after the GPO reduction, it's still worth applying. These benefits include annual cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs), which can add up over time.

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Thank you for the tip about asking for a Technical Expert! I'll make sure she does that. And you're right - even a small benefit is worth getting, especially with the COLAs over time.

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Can I get SSDI after not working since 2012? SSA asking for bank info for SSI application

I'm in a really tough spot and confused about my Social Security options. I stopped working in 2012 due to chronic health issues, but I do have my 40 work credits from before then. Recently my health took a turn for the worse - I was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer and I'm currently undergoing treatment that's pretty brutal. I applied for SSDI about a month ago, and then last week got a call from SSA. Today I finally connected with the rep who called, and surprisingly she took me through a whole SSI application over the phone (which I wasn't expecting). She asked for my banking information - my routing number and checking account details for an account I share with my elderly mother (she's 92 and has been supporting me since I got sick). Now I'm worried and confused about a few things: 1. Since I haven't worked in over 10 years (since 2012), am I completely disqualified from SSDI? Does the 'recent work test' mean I'm out of luck? 2. Why did the SSA rep ask for my banking information? Is this just to verify my financial situation for the SSI application, or does it mean I'm already approved for something? 3. The rep mentioned it could take 6 months - is this normal processing time? I feel embarrassed about my situation - being financially dependent on my elderly mother all these years - but with this cancer diagnosis, I need to figure out what benefits I might qualify for. Any advice would be really appreciated.

Maybe this is a stupid question but why not just apply for SSI if SSDI isnt gonna work out? At least youd get something AND medicaid which helps with all the cancer treatment costs. Thats what my cousin did when he couldnt get SSDI cuz he hadnt worked in years.

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That's not a stupid question at all! You're absolutely right that SSI might be an option if SSDI doesn't work out. However, there are some important differences: 1. SSI payments are generally lower than SSDI (maximum of $943/month for individuals in 2025) 2. SSI has strict asset limits of $2,000 for individuals 3. SSDI has no asset limits and payment amounts are based on your prior earnings 4. After 24 months on SSDI, you qualify for Medicare Ideally, OP should pursue both paths - try to establish an onset date for SSDI that falls before their Date Last Insured expired, while also continuing with the SSI application as a backup plan. That's likely why SSA is processing both.

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Just wanted to add - make sure you tell SSA about ALL of your medical conditions, not just the cancer. If your disability claim goes back to 2012, they need to know everything that contributed to your inability to work back then. Many successful disability claims involve multiple conditions that combined make working impossible.

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That's an excellent point. I have several chronic conditions besides the cancer that started back in 2012-2013. I'll make sure to document all of them and find my old medical records. Thank you!

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my grandma has been getting SS for 30 years and she always gets it on the 3rd of the month no matter what day of the week it is. i think the people saying its based on birthday are wrong, its just the same day every month

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Your grandma likely started receiving benefits before May 1997. Anyone who started receiving benefits before that date gets paid on the 3rd of each month, regardless of their birth date. The birthday-based schedule I mentioned only applies to people who started receiving benefits May 1997 or later. Both systems are currently in use depending on when you first claimed.

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I checked the calendar on the SSA website and you all are right - my payment date is tied to my birthday on the 24th, so I get paid on the 4th Wednesday. I guess I just never made the connection before. This will make budgeting so much easier now that I understand how it works! Thanks everyone for clearing this up.

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Glad we could help! One more tip - you can sign up for text or email alerts for when your payment is deposited through the My Social Security portal online. Makes keeping track even easier.

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Another important factor to consider: when calculating whether this strategy makes financial sense, look at your son's potential benefit amount and multiply by how many months he'll receive it (from your age 62 until he turns 18, or 19 if still in high school). Then compare that total to the lifetime reduction in your own benefit. Break-even point is typically around age 80-82 for most people who take benefits at 62 vs. waiting until FRA. But with the child benefits in the mix AND the suspension strategy, your personal break-even point could be quite different. It's worth doing the actual math based on your specific benefit amounts.

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my mom did this!!! she took ss early so i could get benefits for college and she said it was totally worth it even tho her benefit is lower. said she'd do it again in a heartbeat. she never did that suspension thing tho. didn't know that was even possible!!

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Thanks for sharing your mom's experience! That's really helpful to hear. I'm leaning toward doing this - the immediate help for my son during his teen years seems more valuable than maximizing my own benefit decades from now.

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when i finally got my benefits approved they backpaid me for the 2 months i was waiting so dont worry even if it takes time they'll pay you from your start date!!!!

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Update: I finally called SSA today and got through after about an hour on hold. The agent confirmed my application looks good and is just waiting for processing closer to January. She said everything appears to be in order and I don't need to provide any additional documents at this time. Thanks everyone for your help and reassurance!

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Nice! Did you end up using the regular phone line or did you try Claimyr?

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Used the regular line - called right when they opened at 8am and still waited an hour. Next time I might try Claimyr to save some time!

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did u check if u qualify for spousal benefits? might get more that way depending on what ur spouse earned

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I'm divorced (after 20 years of marriage) and never remarried. My ex made about the same as me income-wise. I know I can claim on his record since we were married over 10 years, but I think my own benefit would be higher? Not sure how to compare them.

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To answer your question about seeing which 35 years SSA uses: Unfortunately, the my Social Security portal doesn't show exactly which years they're using in the calculation. They take your highest 35 years after indexing them for inflation (older earnings get adjusted upward). Regarding your divorce situation: You can claim on your ex-spouse's record if you were married 10+ years and haven't remarried. You'd get 50% of their FRA benefit amount if that's higher than your own benefit. With similar earnings histories, your own benefit is likely higher, but it's worth checking with SSA. And yes, the delayed retirement credit is 8% per year after FRA until age 70, so waiting from 66+6mo to 70 would give you about a 28% larger monthly benefit for life.

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! This has been incredibly helpful. I think I'll schedule an appointment with the SSA to go over all these options before making my final decision.

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Just wanted to share that i know several couples who just had commitment ceremonies but never legally married to avoid this exact problem. its not fair but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. the govt shouldnt be in our personal business anyway!

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yeah thats what my neighbor did! they had a big wedding and everything but never filed the papers. nobody knows except family.

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One important thing to check: has your fiancé been on SSDI for at least 24 months? If so, he should qualify for Medicare regardless of Medicaid status. Medicare Part B + Part D + a Medicare Supplement plan, while not free like Medicaid, can provide good coverage. If he has low income (not counting your income before marriage), he might also qualify for Extra Help with Medicare prescription costs. For the most accurate information, I'd recommend: 1. Contacting your state's Health Insurance Assistance Program (SHIP) for free unbiased Medicare/Medicaid counseling 2. Speaking with a benefits planner at a local Center for Independent Living 3. Getting specifics from your state's Medicaid office about how marriage would affect his particular type of Medicaid coverage Every state handles their Medicaid programs differently, especially for disabled individuals, so general advice online won't be as helpful as state-specific guidance.

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Yes, he's been on SSDI for about 5 years, so he does have Medicare, but he has Medicaid as his secondary insurance which covers all the costs Medicare doesn't cover. Without the Medicaid, we'd still have the 20% coinsurance for all his frequent doctor visits, plus the prescription costs that Medicare Part D doesn't fully cover, which would be thousands each year. I'll definitely look into the SHIP program and the Extra Help program - I haven't heard of those before. Thank you so much for these specific suggestions!

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quick question thats related - does anyone know if u have to pay FICA taxes on social security income? i just realized ive never checked this on my tax returns

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No, you don't pay FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare taxes) on your Social Security benefits. They're potentially subject to income tax depending on your combined income level, but not FICA taxes. Those are only applied to earned income from working.

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Thank you everyone for the thoughtful responses! Based on your advice, I'm leaning toward delaying until 70 while continuing to max out my 457(b) contributions and drawing from my brokerage accounts as needed. Given my family history of longevity and current good health, the guaranteed 24% increase seems worth waiting for. I'll schedule a meeting with my financial advisor to map out a year-by-year withdrawal strategy that minimizes taxes during this bridge period. Really appreciate all the insights!

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wait Im confused dont u get penalized for working while collecting SS??? or is that only if ur under FRA??

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You're right about the second part. The earnings test (which can reduce benefits) ONLY applies if you're collecting before your Full Retirement Age. Once you reach FRA, you can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. In fact, as this thread discusses, additional earnings after FRA can actually increase your benefit amount through annual recalculations.

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oh thats good to know! i turn 62 next year and was thinking about taking SS early but i still work part time so maybe i should wait

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Thanks everyone for the insights! Based on what you've all shared and checking my earnings record, I think I'll see modest increases of maybe $25-35 monthly for each additional year I work. Not huge, but combined with preserving my savings longer, it might make sense for me to work at least another year or two. Really appreciate all the input!

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That sounds like a reasonable expectation given your situation. And don't forget those increases are permanent and will also receive all future cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs). So that $30/month increase might become $40-45/month after a decade of COLAs. Small increases compound over time!

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