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Victoria Stark

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Is anyone else confused about why the OP's husband's SSDI was going to a nursing home? I thought Medicare covered nursing homes? My mom is getting SSDI and we're looking at facilities now...

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Hassan Khoury

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Medicare only covers skilled nursing facilities for limited periods (up to 100 days) following hospitalization. For long-term nursing home care, residents typically use private funds, long-term care insurance, or Medicaid (after spending down assets). The SSDI payment would be part of those private funds used to pay for care, with perhaps a small personal needs allowance kept by the beneficiary.

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Samantha Howard

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Going back to the COLA question - the increases have been pretty significant lately! 5.9% in 2022, 8.7% in 2023, 3.2% in 2024. So that $2750 could be quite a bit higher in 4 years if inflation stays high. Just wanted to add some optimism to the thread!

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Steven Adams

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That's encouraging! I hadn't realized the recent COLAs were that substantial. Makes me feel a little better about my future income situation.

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Marcus Williams

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i just checked my bank account again and realized they did NOT apply my medicare part B correctly!!! they took out $209 instead of $174 that i was paying before! anyone else have this problem? now i need to call them too uggggh

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The Medicare premium DID go up this year! I remember getting something about that in November. They increased the standard premium from $174.70 to $209.30 for 2025. It's RIDICULOUS but it wasn't a mistake. They're taking more from all of us! 😡

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Jay Lincoln

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Update: Just received my letter in the mail today explaining the COLA adjustment! It says my first increased payment will be on the 4th Wednesday of this month, and the lump sum for retroactive adjustments will come within 10 business days after that. Going to mark my calendar and stop worrying. Thanks everyone for the helpful info!

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Jessica Suarez

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Glad to hear you got your letter! The SSA is actually pretty consistent with their payment schedules once you understand how they work. The retroactive lump sum payments sometimes arrive faster than they promise too, so you might see it sooner.

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Brady Clean

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my cousin did this wrong and they made him pay back like 5 grand in benefits they shouldnt have paid him. be really careful with this stuff

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Daniel Rivera

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One more important detail - the earnings test only counts wages or self-employment income. It doesn't count investment income, pension payments, annuities, capital gains, or government benefits. So if any of your income comes from these sources, they won't count toward either the monthly or annual limits. And remember that the earnings reduction isn't a permanent loss. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, your benefit will be recalculated to credit back the months when benefits were withheld.

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Brooklyn Knight

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That's good to know about the recalculation at FRA. I wasn't aware they'd adjust it later. All my income now is from consulting work though, so unfortunately it all counts toward the limits.

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Edward McBride

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u shud make sure ur wife knows all about YOUR work record since if something happens to YOU she'll need to apply for benefits for the kids on ur record. My husband died 2 yrs ago and I had NO IDEA what I was doing with all the SS paperwork!!!!

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Summer Green

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That's a really good point. I should make a folder with all my Social Security information and make sure she knows where it is and how to apply if something happens to me. I'm sorry about your husband, and I appreciate you sharing your experience.

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Dana Doyle

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One final point that might be helpful for your planning: Since your wife doesn't have her own work record, you might want to maximize your own Social Security earnings base. This would mean trying to have your highest 35 years of earnings be as high as possible, since that's what your potential survivor benefits would be based on. Additionally, if you're looking at overall family financial security, consider whether your wife might return to work part-time when the children are older. Even earning just 40 credits (which can be done with 10 years of even part-time work) would provide her with her own retirement benefit and create potential survivor benefits.

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Summer Green

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That's excellent advice. I hadn't thought about the importance of maximizing my own record for potential survivor benefits. My wife has been considering going back to work part-time when our youngest starts school full-time next year. I'll share with her how important even those part-time credits could be for our family's long-term security.

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Mei Liu

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To directly answer your original question - having these items ready will make your application process smoother: 1. Your birth certificate 2. Your Social Security card or number 3. Your bank account information for direct deposit 4. Marriage certificate (if applicable) 5. The dates of any previous marriages and divorces 6. The name, DOB, and SSN of your current spouse and any former spouses 7. Names and DOBs of any unmarried children under 18, or disabled adult children 8. Military service papers if you served before 1968 9. Recent W-2 forms or self-employment tax information Most people don't need to submit all of these documents with their application. The online system will tell you which specific documents you need to provide based on your answers. And yes, reviewing your earnings record for accuracy before applying is extremely important. Mistakes happen, and correcting them before you apply is much easier than fixing them afterward.

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Yuki Sato

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Thank you for this comprehensive list! I'll get everything together this week. One last question - does the application process take a long time to complete? Should I set aside a few hours to do it all at once?

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CyberSamurai

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The online application typically takes 30-45 minutes to complete if you have all your information ready. I'd recommend setting aside at least an hour to be safe. Remember that you don't have to complete it all in one sitting - you can save your application and come back to it later. However, as another commenter mentioned, if you leave it idle too long during an active session, you could get timed out. One more tip: apply 3-4 months before you want your benefits to begin. This gives the SSA time to process your application and ensures you'll get your payments on time. While many online applications are processed quickly, some require additional verification that can take time. Good luck with your application!

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Yuki Sato

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Thank you all so much for the helpful advice! I feel much better prepared now. I'm going to gather my documents, check my earnings record, and really think about my claiming strategy before I start the application. I appreciate everyone taking the time to share your experiences and knowledge!

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Amina Sy

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my brother told me u can also just ask ur employer to hold ur last paycheck til january and then it counts for next year's limit not this years. not sure if thats legal but he did it and said it worked lol

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Oliver Fischer

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This wouldn't work. The earnings test is based on when the money is earned, not when it's paid. The SSA follows accrual-based accounting principles for the earnings test, so income is counted in the year it's earned regardless of when the paycheck is actually issued. Attempting to shift the payment date could potentially create issues.

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Paolo Rizzo

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After reading everyone's responses, I'm feeling much better about this situation. It sounds like the process is pretty straightforward - they'll catch the overage through my tax return, send me a letter explaining the situation, and then make small deductions from my payments until the $350 is recovered. I'll make sure to budget for slightly smaller payments for a few months next year. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and expertise!

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Amara Adebayo

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I just delt with this last year!!!! make sure ur sister knows that if her husbands check was from SSDI there might be a disability freeze on his earnings record that could effect the PIA calculation for her survivors benefit!!! The SSA ppl didn't even mention this to me until my THIRD CALL and it made a $137 difference in my monthly payment!!!! The system is SO COMPLICATED uggggh

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PixelWarrior

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I had no idea about the disability freeze! What exactly should she ask about? Is there specific terminology she should use when mentioning this?

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Amara Adebayo

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Tell her to specifically ask: "Since my husband was on SSDI, is there a disability freeze on his earnings record, and how does that affect my survivor benefit calculation?" They should check if years of zero/low earnings due to disability were excluded from his benefit calculation. If they act confused just keep asking to speak to someone who understands disability freezes and PIA calculations!

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Giovanni Rossi

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To address your original question more precisely about the percentages: - At 65 and 11 months: 95.9% of his benefit - At 66 (November 2024): 97.2% of his benefit - At 66 and 4 months (February 2025): 100% of his benefit The reduction is approximately 0.396% per month before her survivor FRA. The financial decision weighs immediate need against long-term gain. If she waits from October 2024 to February 2025 (4 months), she gains 4.1% higher benefit for life. Whether that's worth it depends on: 1. Her immediate financial needs 2. Life expectancy considerations 3. The actual dollar difference (4.1% of a $2,000 benefit is $82/month or $984/year) If she's in difficult financial circumstances, taking the slightly reduced amount now might make more sense than waiting for the higher amount.

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PixelWarrior

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Thank you for breaking down the exact percentages and monthly reduction rate. That helps tremendously with the decision. Since her husband's benefit was around $2,300, we're looking at about a $94 difference between claiming now versus at her FRA. Given her current financial situation, I think she'll probably claim soon rather than waiting for the full 100%.

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Klaus Schmidt

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SSI is unlikely to be relevant in this situation. Survivor benefits are typically substantially higher than the SSI federal benefit rate ($943/month for individuals in 2025). SSI is meant as a safety net for those with very limited income and resources who don't qualify for sufficient SSDI, retirement, or survivor benefits.

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CaptainAwesome

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Well EXCUSE ME for trying to help!!!!! I was just saying she should look into ALL options!!!! Some people have very little in savings after a spouse dies!!!! 🙄

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Amara Okonkwo

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all these explanations r so confusing!! just call SSA and ask them directly...but good luck getting someone on the phone lol 😂

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Giovanni Marino

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One thing nobody's mentioned - working part-time might let you delay claiming Social Security longer, which could MORE than offset any small reduction from lower earnings. Every year you delay claiming between your Full Retirement Age and 70 adds 8% to your lifetime benefit. That's huge! So if part-time work provides enough income to postpone claiming by even a year or two, you could end up with a LARGER monthly benefit despite the reduced earnings.

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Jamal Edwards

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That's a great point! I hadn't thought about how part-time work could help me delay claiming. We've been saving pretty well, but having some income coming in would definitely make it easier to wait until 67 or even 70 to claim. Thanks for this perspective!

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Alice Fleming

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One important thing to note about applying for benefits with a future start date (like your February 2025): SSA typically doesn't process these applications immediately. They often place them in a pending queue and only begin processing them 3-4 months before your chosen start date. This might explain why you're not seeing confirmation yet. However, you should have still received an initial acknowledgment when you submitted the application. Regarding Medicare Part A - this is handled somewhat separately from retirement benefits. You should have received a Medicare card in the mail within a month of approval. If you haven't, that's another indication something might have gone wrong with your applications. I strongly recommend calling SSA directly at this point to verify both application statuses.

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Connor Richards

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That's really helpful to know about the future start date processing. But it sounds like I still should have gotten some kind of initial confirmation even if they're not actively processing it yet. I'm definitely going to call them tomorrow morning to check on both applications.

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Steven Adams

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just wanted to add that when i finally got thru to someone at ssa, they told me sometimes the online account doesnt show pending applications for technical reasons but that doesnt mean the application isnt in their system. only way to know for sure is call or visit office

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Connor Richards

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That's somewhat reassuring. I guess there's still hope my application went through even if it's not showing online. I'll definitely call to confirm.

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