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Dmitry Popov

What happens to Social Security payment received after parent died in nursing home?

My mother just passed away on October 1st in her nursing home, and her Social Security payment ($2,105) was direct deposited on October 3rd as usual. I'm listed as a joint owner on her bank account and have POA for her finances, but I'm confused about what happens with this final payment. She was on Medicaid, has no estate to speak of, and I'm trying to do the right thing here. Do I need to return this payment to SSA? If they take it back automatically, can I file to get any portion of it? And am I eligible to apply for the lump-sum death benefit as her child? This is all new territory for me, and I want to handle her affairs properly while understanding what benefits might still be available.

Ava Garcia

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I'm sorry for your loss. Social Security benefits are not payable for the month of death, regardless of what day in the month the person dies. Since your mother passed on October 1st, she was not entitled to the October payment (which covers September). SSA will automatically reclaim that payment once they're notified of her death. As for the death benefit, yes - you can apply for the $255 lump-sum death payment if you paid for her funeral expenses or if you're her surviving spouse. If you're just her child and not paying for funeral expenses, you might not qualify unless there's no surviving spouse.

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Dmitry Popov

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Thank you for the information. So even though the payment came on Oct 3rd, it was actually for September, not October? That makes sense. I'll prepare for them to take it back. I did pay for her funeral expenses, so it sounds like I should apply for that lump-sum benefit. Do I need to go into an office for that or can I do it over the phone?

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StarSailor}

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my dad died last year and they pulled the money right back out of his account about 2 weeks after he died. they just do it automatically once the death is reported. dont spend that money or you'll be in trouble when they come for it!

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Dmitry Popov

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Thanks for the warning! I definitely won't touch that money. Do you know if they contacted you before taking it back, or did it just disappear from the account one day?

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Miguel Silva

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You need to report your mother's death to Social Security ASAP if you haven't already. Call them at 1-800-772-1213 or visit a local office. They'll stop payments and tell you about any benefits you might be eligible for. Regarding the October 3rd payment: That payment is actually for September (SS pays a month behind). Since she was alive all of September, technically that payment was correctly issued. HOWEVER, because she died on the 1st of the following month, SSA will reclaim it - that's just how their rules work. The money will be withdrawn automatically once they process the death notification. For the $255 death benefit, you can apply if you paid her funeral expenses. Bring the funeral receipts when you apply.

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Dmitry Popov

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I'll call tomorrow to report her passing. That's interesting about the payment - so even though it was for September when she was alive, they'll still take it back because of when she died. I'll make sure to keep those funeral receipts for the death benefit application.

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Zainab Ismail

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When my grandmother died last year, we had SUCH a hard time getting through to Social Security to report her death! Spent DAYS calling that 800 number and either got disconnected or waited for hours. So frustrating when you're already dealing with grief. The local office was booked out for weeks too. Just prepare yourself for that process - it's not easy.

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Dmitry Popov

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Thank you all for the helpful information. I'll definitely report her death right away and prepare for them to reclaim that payment. I've gathered her funeral receipts for the death benefit application. It's a relief to know what to expect - this whole process has been overwhelming.

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Yara Nassar

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Just to clarify something important - Social Security benefits are paid in arrears, meaning the October 3rd payment was for September. However, the rule is that you must live through the entire month to be eligible for that month's payment. Since your mother passed on the 1st of October, she did not live through the entire month of October, so that September payment (received in October) will be reclaimed. Also, regarding the POA - just so you know, your Power of Attorney terminated upon her death. For handling her affairs now, you'd need to be the executor/administrator of her estate, even if it's a small estate.

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Sorry about ur mom. when my dad died the nursing home told social security before we even had time to call them!! the payment was gone from his account like 10 days later. they dont even warn you they just take it back.

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Dmitry Popov

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Wow, I didn't realize the nursing home might report it. I should probably check if they've already done that. And thanks for letting me know about them just taking it - I'll make sure not to touch those funds.

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Ava Garcia

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Since your mother was on Medicaid in a nursing home, there's another important consideration. The state Medicaid agency may have a claim against her assets, including bank accounts, under the Medicaid Estate Recovery Program. You should contact your state's Medicaid office to understand their specific requirements. Being a joint account holder might complicate things, as the state may still consider those funds recoverable assets.

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Dmitry Popov

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered. I'll definitely contact our state Medicaid office to find out about recovery claims. The bank account doesn't have much beyond that Social Security payment, but I want to make sure everything is handled properly.

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StarSailor}

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my neighbor told me the $255 death benefit is only for spouses not children is that true???

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Miguel Silva

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Not exactly. The $255 death benefit can go to a surviving spouse who was living with the deceased, OR it can go to a surviving spouse or child who is eligible for certain benefits on the deceased's record. Also, if there's no eligible spouse or child, but someone paid the funeral expenses, they might be able to apply for reimbursement up to $255. The rules are a bit complicated, so it's best to ask SSA directly about your specific situation.

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Dmitry Popov

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I was able to report my mother's death to Social Security today. They confirmed they'll be reclaiming the October payment. The agent also helped me apply for the lump sum death benefit since I paid for her funeral expenses. They said I'll receive a decision in about 30 days. Thanks to everyone for your guidance - it made this process much less confusing!

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Zainab Ismail

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That's great you got through to them! How long did you have to wait on hold? When I had to call for my mom's benefits it took FOREVER.

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Mason Lopez

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I'm glad you were able to get through and take care of everything! It's such a relief when you can cross these difficult tasks off your list during an already stressful time. Hopefully the lump sum benefit comes through quickly for you. And don't worry too much about the reclaimed payment - it sounds like you handled everything exactly right by not touching those funds and reporting promptly.

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Mary Bates

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I'm so glad you were able to get everything sorted out! It sounds like you handled this difficult situation really well. Just a heads up - make sure to keep good records of when they reclaim that October payment, as it might be helpful for tax purposes or if any questions come up later. And congratulations on getting the death benefit application submitted - that $255 can help offset some of the funeral costs during this tough time.

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Axel Bourke

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Dmitry. It sounds like you've handled this difficult situation with grace and thoroughness. One additional thing to keep in mind - since you mentioned your mother was in a nursing home and on Medicaid, you might want to ask the SSA agent about any other potential benefits or considerations specific to your situation when you speak with them. Sometimes there are nuances that don't come up in general information. Also, make sure to get confirmation numbers or reference numbers for all your interactions with SSA - it can be helpful if you need to follow up later. Wishing you peace during this challenging time.

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Benjamin Kim

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That's excellent advice about getting confirmation numbers! I learned this the hard way when dealing with my father's benefits - having those reference numbers saved me so much time when I had to call back with questions. Also, Axel makes a great point about asking about other potential benefits. Sometimes there are survivor benefits or other programs that agents might not automatically mention unless you specifically ask. Dmitry, it really sounds like you're doing everything right during such a difficult time.

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Zara Malik

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I'm sorry for your loss, Dmitry. It sounds like you've been handling this difficult situation very thoughtfully. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - when SSA reclaims that October payment, they typically do it through an automatic electronic withdrawal from the account where it was deposited. Since you're a joint account holder, this should happen smoothly without any issues on your end. Also, regarding the nursing home potentially reporting the death, many facilities do have procedures for this, but it's still important that you reported it directly as the family member. This ensures all the proper notifications are made and helps expedite processing of any benefits you're eligible for. You're doing all the right things during what I know is an incredibly difficult time.

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Darren Brooks

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Thank you Zara for that clarification about the electronic withdrawal - that's really helpful to know what to expect. I appreciate everyone's support and guidance through this process. It's been overwhelming trying to navigate all these systems while grieving, but this community has made it so much easier to understand what steps I need to take. I feel much more confident now that I'm handling everything properly.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Dmitry. It sounds like you've gotten excellent guidance from this community and handled everything properly. One thing I'd add - since you mentioned being joint owner on the account, you might want to contact your bank to let them know about your mother's passing as well. Some banks have specific procedures for joint accounts when one holder passes away, and they can help ensure the automatic SSA withdrawal goes smoothly when they reclaim that October payment. Also, keep copies of all the paperwork related to the death benefit application and any reference numbers SSA gave you. These records can be invaluable if you need to follow up or if any questions arise down the road. You're doing everything right during such a difficult time.

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Lauren Zeb

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That's really good advice about contacting the bank directly, TillyCombatwarrior. I hadn't thought about notifying them separately about my mother's passing, but it makes sense that they might have their own procedures for joint accounts. I'll give them a call tomorrow to make sure everything is set up properly for when SSA does the automatic withdrawal. And you're absolutely right about keeping all the paperwork - I've been documenting everything but I'll make sure to organize it all in one place. Thank you for thinking of those details that I might have missed.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Dmitry. It's clear you've been handling this difficult situation with such care and attention to detail. Reading through this thread, it's wonderful to see how supportive this community has been in guiding you through the Social Security process. One small additional tip - when you do receive that lump sum death benefit decision in about 30 days, if it's approved, the payment typically comes as a separate check or direct deposit, not added to the regular account where your mother's benefits were going. Just wanted to mention that so you know what to expect. You've really done everything right during such a challenging time, and I hope the process continues to go smoothly for you.

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Diego Fisher

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Thank you so much, Fatima. That's really helpful to know about the death benefit payment coming separately - I would have been confused if I didn't see it in the usual account. This whole community has been incredible during such a difficult time. I never expected to get such detailed, caring guidance when I first posted my question. Everyone's experiences and advice have made navigating this bureaucratic maze so much more manageable while I'm still processing my grief. It's comforting to know there are people who understand what this process is like and are willing to help others through it.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Dmitry. It sounds like you've navigated this incredibly difficult process with remarkable grace and thoroughness. As someone who works with families going through similar situations, I want to commend you for being so proactive in handling all these details while grieving. One thing I'd add to all the excellent advice you've received - consider keeping a simple timeline document of all the actions you've taken (reporting the death, applying for benefits, bank notifications, etc.) with dates and reference numbers. This can be incredibly helpful not just for your own records, but if you need to help other family members understand what's been done or if any questions arise months down the road. Also, while you're waiting for the death benefit decision, don't hesitate to call SSA if you have any other questions or if your situation changes in any way. You've clearly established a good working relationship with them, and they're there to help during this transition period. Wishing you peace as you continue to handle your mother's affairs and process your grief.

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Donna Cline

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Thank you so much, Beatrice. That timeline document idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that from the beginning! I've been keeping scattered notes, but having everything organized chronologically with reference numbers would definitely be much more helpful. I'll put that together this weekend while everything is still fresh in my memory. And you're absolutely right about not hesitating to call SSA again if needed - the agent I spoke with was actually very patient and helpful, which was such a relief after hearing about others' experiences with long wait times. This community has truly been a lifeline during one of the most difficult periods of my life. Thank you for your professional perspective and for taking the time to offer such thoughtful advice.

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