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Need clarification on wage reporting requirements when three family members receive different Social Security benefits

Our family has a complicated Social Security situation and I'm confused about who needs to report what. My wife (62) gets her retirement benefits but still works seasonally for a couple months each year. Our adult daughter (24) is disabled and receives SSDI as a Disabled Adult Child (DAC) on my wife's record, plus works part-time. My wife is our daughter's representative payee. I'm 61, fully retired, and receive a spouse benefit under the Child-in-Care provision on my wife's record. Both my wife and daughter's employers withhold taxes and report their wages to the IRS. What I can't figure out is which of us needs to manually report their earnings directly to Social Security? Is it all of us? Just my wife? Just my daughter? And where can I find this clearly documented? The local office gave me conflicting information and I want to make sure we're doing this right to avoid any overpayment issues later.

Reporting requirements depend on which benefits you're receiving and whether you're subject to the earnings test. Here's the breakdown: 1. Your wife (62): Since she's under FRA (Full Retirement Age) and receiving retirement benefits, she MUST report her earnings to SSA if they'll exceed the annual earnings limit ($22,320 in 2025). This is required even though her employer reports wages to the IRS. 2. Your daughter: As a DAC beneficiary, she's subject to the earnings test until she reaches her FRA. She needs to report if her earnings will exceed the substantial gainful activity (SGA) limit, which is around $1,550/month for 2025 for non-blind disabled individuals. As her representative payee, your wife is responsible for reporting this. 3. You: Since you're receiving spouse benefits with a child-in-care, you're subject to the earnings test until you reach FRA. But since you say you're fully retired, you don't have earnings to report. You can find this info in SSA Publication No. 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits." You can report wages by calling SSA, visiting an office, or through the my Social Security online portal.

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Ezra Beard

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Thanks for explaining this! So even though the employers report the wages to the IRS, we still need to report directly to Social Security? What's the deadline for reporting? Is it monthly or annually? And what's the best way to report - phone, online, or in person?

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in my experince SSA & IRS dont talk to each other much!! i got hit with a $4800 overpayment because i thought my employer reporting was enough. BIG MISTAKE!!!! u need to call and tell them directly or use the my social security website.

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Aria Khan

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This is correct. Even though employers report wages to the IRS, there's a significant time lag before SSA receives and processes this information. By then, overpayments can accumulate. Best practice is to report estimated annual earnings at the start of each year, then update SSA if your estimate changes significantly. For seasonal work like your wife's, report before the work begins.

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Everett Tutum

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I had a similar family situation with multiple benefit types. The rule of thumb is that ANYONE receiving benefits who is under Full Retirement Age AND working needs to report their earnings directly to Social Security. The IRS reporting isn't used for real-time benefit adjustments. For your daughter specifically, since she's receiving benefits as a DAC (what used to be called CDB - Childhood Disability Benefits), she has additional reporting requirements related to her disability status. As her representative payee, your wife has the legal responsibility to report both earnings AND any changes in her condition. The documentation can be found in the Red Book (SSA's guide to employment supports) and in the Representative Payee Guide (SSA Publication No. 05-10076).

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Sunny Wang

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I think you might be confusing things a bit. DAC benefits (Disabled Adult Child) fall under SSDI and have different rules than SSI. DAC beneficiaries are subject to the earnings test like retired workers, not the SSI income rules. Also, I'm pretty sure they don't have to report changes in medical condition unless SSA is doing a continuing disability review.

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Ezra Beard

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Thanks for the suggestion! I spent over an hour on hold the last time I called only to get disconnected. I'll check out that service because we really need to speak with someone who can give us definitive answers for our specific situation. The contradicting info is driving me crazy.

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For people under Full Retirement Age, Social Security uses an annual earnings test. In 2025 the limit is $22,320. For every $2 you earn above that limit, they deduct $1 from benefits. BUT!!! This only applies if you're under FRA. After FRA, earn as much as you want with no reduction. You mentioned your wife is 62 and works seasonally. If her total annual earnings will be under $22,320, she doesn't need to worry about having benefits reduced, but she should still report her estimate to SSA at the beginning of the year. Your daughter's situation is trickier because she's a DAC (Disabled Adult Child). She is subject to both the earnings test AND the SGA (Substantial Gainful Activity) test. If she earns over the SGA amount consistently, she could lose eligibility for disability benefits entirely. The reporting can be done: 1. Online through my Social Security account 2. By phone at 1-800-772-1213 3. In person at your local office I recommend getting everything in writing when you report!

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Aria Khan

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This is excellent advice, especially about getting everything in writing. I'd also recommend checking your my Social Security account monthly to verify that any earnings being reported are correctly reflected in the system. Many overpayment issues occur because of administrative delays or errors in processing reported earnings.

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Sunny Wang

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I think people are overcomplicating this. I was my mom's representative payee for years. Here's what you actually need to do: Wife - Report estimated earnings at beginning of each year if she'll be working. Update if the estimate changes. Daughter - As DAC beneficiary, you need to report her work activity. Even if below SGA, it should be reported. Your wife is legally responsible for this as the rep payee. You - Nothing to report if not working. Use the SSA mobile app!! It's the fastest way to report wages now. They added that feature last year and its way better than calling.

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Ezra Beard

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I didn't even know there was a mobile app for reporting! That would make things so much easier. Do you just search for "Social Security" in the app store? Does it allow you to upload pay stubs as proof of earnings?

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Just to clarify something important about your situation: You mentioned you receive spousal benefits under the "Child-in-care" provision. Be aware that these benefits will end when your daughter turns 16 or is no longer considered disabled. However, since your daughter is 24 and already established as a DAC, your benefits should continue as long as she remains eligible for disability benefits and you remain married to your wife. This is an unusual situation because most child-in-care benefits terminate when the child reaches 16. Make sure the SSA understands your daughter is receiving DAC benefits, not regular child's benefits.

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wait i thought child-in-care spouse benefits ALWAYS end when the kid turns 16??? didn't know they could continue for disabled adult children!!! is this new???

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Aria Khan

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To directly answer your question about documentation, the official guidance on reporting requirements can be found in: 1. SSA Publication No. 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits" 2. SSA Publication No. 05-10076 "A Guide for Representative Payees" 3. The SSA Red Book (for disability-related work issues) For the most accurate guidance, I recommend making an appointment with a Claims Specialist at your local office. Ask specifically for someone who specializes in concurrent entitlement situations (where multiple family members receive different types of benefits on the same record). Incidentally, the fact that you're receiving child-in-care benefits at 61 with a 24-year-old disabled adult child is somewhat unusual, so you're right to seek clarification. The rules that apply to your specific case aren't the standard scenarios covered in most publications.

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Everett Tutum

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Yes, absolutely request a Claims Specialist who handles concurrent entitlement! I worked for SSA for 28 years before retiring, and these complex family benefit situations often get mishandled by less experienced staff. If you get contradictory information, ask to speak with a Technical Expert or the Operations Supervisor. They can research the specific regulations that apply to your case.

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Melissa Lin

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SS is THE WORST with these kinds of complex family situations!!! I've been dealing with them for years with my disabled son and working spouse. Got hit with a $7,000 overpayment because nobody could give me a straight answer about reporting requirements. THEN they had the nerve to tell me I should have known better!!! The system is designed to fail us. Good luck getting a straight answer even if you call.

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Ezra Beard

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Thank you everyone for the responses. I'm going to try the mobile app first for reporting, and then try to get an appointment with a Claims Specialist who understands concurrent entitlement situations. I'll make sure to get everything in writing and keep good records of all our reporting. Just to clarify - my spouse benefits are definitely under the child-in-care provision because of our disabled adult daughter, not regular spousal benefits (which I know I couldn't get until 62). It sounds like both my wife and daughter need to report their earnings directly to SSA, regardless of employer reporting. I appreciate all the helpful information!

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