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Kevin Bell

Can I get Social Security benefits as caregiver to my disabled adult daughter receiving DAC from ex-husband?

Hi everyone, I need some advice about a somewhat complicated family situation with Social Security benefits. My daughter is 37 and was determined disabled before she turned 18. She currently receives Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits based on my ex-husband's record. He started collecting his Social Security at 62 and is now 74. I'm 63, still working full-time, but I'm also my daughter's primary caregiver since she lives with me full-time. I have two questions I'm hoping someone can help with: 1) Since I'm her caregiver, are there any benefits I might qualify for through Social Security, even though I'm divorced from her father (the number holder)? 2) If I were to remarry in the future, would that affect anything related to her benefits or any potential benefits for me? I'm trying to plan ahead as retirement gets closer. Thanks so much for any insights!

Your situation is actually fairly common. As her caregiver, you wouldn't qualify for any special Social Security benefits simply for being her caregiver. Social Security doesn't have specific caregiver benefits. However, when you retire, you could potentially file for divorced spousal benefits if you were married to your ex for at least 10 years and haven't remarried. But if you remarry, you would lose eligibility for any divorced spousal benefits from your ex. Your daughter's DAC benefits wouldn't be affected by your remarriage though - those continue regardless of your marital status as long as she remains eligible.

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Kevin Bell

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Thank you for explaining this! We were married for 23 years, so I guess I would qualify for divorced spousal benefits. Would it make more sense to take those or my own retirement when I eventually stop working? I've been working continuously except for about 3 years when my daughter needed more intensive care.

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Felix Grigori

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my sister gets DAC benefits too and my mom got nothing extra for taking care of her. its really unfair how they dont help the caregivers at all!! you might want to check with your state tho because some states have caregiver programs that pay family members. not social security but still something

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Kevin Bell

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Thanks for mentioning that about state programs. I should definitely look into that! It is frustrating that there's not more support for caregivers through SSA directly.

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Felicity Bud

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I went thru something similar. Social Security doesn't care AT ALL about caregivers!!! I took care of my disabled son for 30+ yrs and got ZERO help from them. The system is BROKEN!!! Check if your state has a Medicaid waiver program - some will pay family caregivers. Also look into whether your daughter might qualify for SSI in ADDITION to her DAC (sometimes possible if the DAC amount is low). That might at least help with household expenses.

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Kevin Bell

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I'm sorry you've had such a difficult experience. I'll definitely check about the Medicaid waiver program. Her DAC payment is about $1,425/month, so I'm not sure if she'd qualify for additional SSI, but worth looking into.

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Max Reyes

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To answer your questions more specifically: 1) There are no caregiver benefits through Social Security itself, but you should look into: - Your state's Home and Community Based Services (HCBS) waiver program - If your state offers a Paid Family Caregiver program through Medicaid - Tax credits for dependent care (speak with a tax professional) 2) About remarriage: Your ex's benefits to your daughter continue regardless of your marital status. However, if you were planning to claim divorced spousal benefits on your ex's record when you retire, those would terminate if you remarry. You should compare your own work record benefit to what you'd get as a divorced spouse (50% of his FRA amount) and choose the higher option when you retire. One other consideration - if you're providing more than 50% of your daughter's support, you might be able to claim her as a dependent on your taxes which could be beneficial.

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This is so helpful. My brother is in almost the same situation with his disabled daughter. Does the amount the daughter gets from DAC count as income when determining if he provides more than 50% support for tax purposes?

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Adrian Connor

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getting thru to SSA to ask these questions is almost impossible these days! I spent 3 hours on hold last week and then got disconnected

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Aisha Jackson

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I think your working might actually be the best thing right now. My mom was in a similar situation with my disabled brother. When she stopped working, her own SS benefit was actually higher than what she would have gotten from my dad's record (they were also divorced). Keep building up your own earnings record as long as you can!

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Kevin Bell

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That's good to know! I do worry about how long I can keep working while caring for her, but I'm trying to hang in there as long as possible.

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Max Reyes

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One more important point: If your ex-husband passes away, your daughter's DAC benefit would increase to 75% of his full benefit amount. And if you're still unmarried at that point and over 60, you might qualify for surviving divorced spouse benefits. The remarriage rules are different for surviving divorced spouses versus regular divorced spouse benefits - you can remarry after 60 and still collect surviving divorced spouse benefits.

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Kevin Bell

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That's really valuable information I hadn't considered. So if I understand correctly, if I remained unmarried until at least 60 (which I already am), I could remarry afterward and still potentially receive surviving divorced spouse benefits if my ex passes away? That's quite different from what I thought!

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Adrian Connor

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my friend got some kind of moms benefit when her son was getting disability but i dont remember what it was called

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That was likely a Mother's or Father's benefit, which is available to a parent caring for a disabled child who is receiving benefits, but only if the child is receiving benefits because their parent (the number holder) is either disabled, retired, or deceased. They don't apply just for being a caregiver to someone on DAC benefits in this situation.

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Felicity Bud

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I know this isn't strictly about Social Security, but have you looked into becoming her paid caregiver through your state's Medicaid program? My cousin does this for her disabled daughter in Arizona and it's been a lifesaver financially. The pay isn't amazing but it acknowledges the work you're already doing. Every state has different rules though.

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Kevin Bell

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I haven't explored that option yet! That's a great suggestion. We're in Michigan, so I'll need to research our state's specific programs. Thank you!

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Chris King

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I'm in a very similar situation with my disabled son who gets DAC benefits from my ex-husband's record. One thing that helped me was getting a benefits estimate from SSA to compare my own retirement benefit to what I'd get as a divorced spouse. You can do this online at ssa.gov/myaccount or by calling. Since you've been working continuously (except for those 3 years), your own benefit might actually be higher than the divorced spousal benefit, especially if you can work a few more years. Also, definitely look into Michigan's MI Choice waiver program - that's their HCBS program that sometimes pays family caregivers. The waiting list can be long, but it's worth getting on it. I wish I had applied sooner!

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This is really helpful advice! I didn't know Michigan had the MI Choice waiver program. I'll definitely look into that and get on the waiting list if there is one. Getting that benefits estimate sounds like a smart first step too - I should probably do that before making any major decisions about retirement timing. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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Rosie Harper

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I'm also caring for my disabled adult child and have been researching this topic extensively. One thing I discovered that might help is that even though Social Security doesn't have specific caregiver benefits, you should definitely track all your caregiving expenses for tax purposes. You may be able to claim medical expense deductions if your daughter's medical costs exceed 7.5% of your adjusted gross income. Also, if you're considering retirement timing, remember that your Social Security benefits increase by about 8% per year if you delay claiming past your full retirement age until age 70. Given that you're still working full-time, it might be worth running the numbers to see if delaying retirement a bit longer would significantly boost your monthly benefit compared to taking divorced spousal benefits earlier. The SSA website has calculators that can help with this comparison.

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Lena Schultz

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This is excellent advice about tracking expenses and considering the delayed retirement credits! I hadn't thought about the medical expense deductions - that could be significant given my daughter's ongoing medical needs. The 8% per year increase for delaying past full retirement age is really compelling, especially since I'm still able to work. I should definitely run those calculators to see the actual dollar differences between taking divorced spousal benefits at my full retirement age versus waiting and taking my own higher benefit at 70. Thank you for breaking this down so clearly!

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Daniela Rossi

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I'm a newcomer here but have been dealing with similar Social Security questions for my disabled brother. One thing I learned that might help is to also check if your daughter qualifies for any state disability services that could provide respite care or day programs. This could potentially allow you to work longer and build up your own Social Security earnings record, which might end up being more valuable than divorced spousal benefits. Also, since you mentioned planning ahead for potential remarriage, you might want to consult with a Social Security advisor or elder law attorney who can run scenarios based on your specific earnings history and your ex-husband's benefit amount. They can help you understand the exact timing and financial implications of different choices. The rules around divorced spousal benefits, surviving divorced spouse benefits, and remarriage timing are complex enough that professional guidance could save you from making costly mistakes.

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Welcome to the community! Your advice about seeking professional guidance is spot on - these Social Security rules can be really tricky to navigate alone. I'm also new here but have been researching similar issues for my family. One additional resource I found helpful is the AARP Social Security calculator that lets you compare different claiming strategies side by side. It's free and can show you scenarios like divorced spousal benefits vs your own benefits at different ages. Also, regarding state disability services, many states have what's called a "no wrong door" system where you can call one number and they'll connect you to all the different programs you might qualify for - both for your daughter and potentially for yourself as a caregiver. It's worth asking about respite services specifically, since those could really help with the work-life balance while you're still building up your earnings record.

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Miguel Alvarez

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I'm new to this community but facing a very similar situation with my disabled adult son. One thing I discovered that might be helpful is to also look into whether your daughter might be eligible for ABLE accounts (Achieving a Better Life Experience). These special savings accounts allow people with disabilities to save money without affecting their SSI or Medicaid eligibility, and family members can contribute up to $17,000 annually (as of 2023). While this doesn't directly address your caregiver situation, it could help with long-term financial planning for your daughter's care. Also, since you mentioned you're 63 and still working, you might want to consider that if you can delay your own Social Security until age 70, your benefit could be significantly higher than divorced spousal benefits - but definitely run the numbers first! The National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (NAELA) has a directory where you can find attorneys who specialize in Social Security and disability planning if you want professional guidance on timing these decisions.

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Eli Butler

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Welcome to the community! That's a great point about ABLE accounts - I hadn't heard of those before. The ability to save $17,000 annually without affecting other benefits sounds really valuable for long-term planning. I'll definitely look into whether my daughter qualifies for one of those accounts. Your advice about potentially waiting until 70 for my own benefits is making me think I should really crunch those numbers carefully. The difference between divorced spousal benefits and my own maximized benefit could be substantial if I can manage to keep working a few more years. Thanks for mentioning NAELA too - having professional guidance on the timing of all these decisions seems really important given how much money could be at stake!

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