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my aunt did that and shes happy with her choice. the money now was more important to her than maybe getting more later. nobody knows how long we got anyway right?
Wait I'm still confused about one thing - if she takes her own benefit now at 62 ($850) and then her husband files at his FRA when she's 64, will her spousal benefit be based on her being 62 or 64? Does she get penalized based on when she first filed for ANY benefit or based on her age when she becomes eligible for spousal?
The reduction is based on when she first filed for her own benefits (62 in this case). Once you file for any retirement benefit, that early filing reduction sticks with you and affects your spousal benefits as well. This is called deemed filing - when you file for one benefit, you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for either now or in the future. The reduction percentages are different for own benefits vs. spousal, but the early filing impact remains.
Has anybody actually received UPDATED benefit statements since the FAIR Act passed??? Mine still shows the old numbers and I'm wondering if they're just being slow updating everything or if I need to request a recalculation!!!!
Just wanted to update - I finally got through to SSA (used that Claimyr service again) and they confirmed that for FERS employees with mixed earnings history like yours, the FAIR Act may provide additional relief even if you're already partially protected from WEP. The representative explained that they're processing updates in batches, with priority given to those closest to retirement age. If you're planning to retire in 3 years, I'd recommend contacting them soon to ensure your estimates reflect the new calculation method.
Thanks for the update! I appreciate knowing they're processing updates in batches. I think I'll try contacting them next week to get more clarity on my specific situation.
I went through the SAME THING in 2023!!! SS is such a mess these days. I waited 7 weeks and nothing. Finally I went to my local office (get there 30 min before they open to avoid waiting all day) and they were actually really helpful. The person I spoke with found my documents in their system and said they were "pending processing" whatever that means. At least I knew they weren't lost! They gave me a receipt showing they had my docs which made me feel better.
That's actually really good advice. There's an office about 20 minutes from me. I think I'll try going there in person next week if I don't hear anything by then. Getting some kind of receipt would definitely help my anxiety about this!
When dealing with the earnings limit adjustments, timing is crucial. Since you're past the 30-day mark with no response, I'd recommend a three-pronged approach: 1. Call the national number first thing in the morning (they open at 8am local time) when wait times are shortest 2. Schedule an appointment at your local office through the SSA website rather than just showing up - this saves tremendous time 3. Send a follow-up letter via certified mail with return receipt requested so you have proof of delivery Also, make sure you understand exactly how the adjustment will work. When you reach FRA, SSA will automatically recalculate your benefit to give you credit for months when benefits were reduced or withheld. This results in a higher monthly payment going forward. However, if their earnings record for you is incorrect, that calculation will be wrong, so getting this fixed now is important. Don't worry too much about the late response - as long as you've provided the documentation, they should process it correctly even if it takes some time.
This is excellent advice, thank you so much for the detailed information! I didn't realize I could schedule an appointment at the local office - that's definitely better than just showing up and waiting all day. I'll try calling tomorrow morning right when they open, and if that doesn't work, I'll schedule that appointment. The certified mail is a great idea too.
That's correct about survivor benefits. While a spousal benefit is 50% of the worker's benefit amount, a survivor benefit is up to 100% of what the worker was receiving (depending on when you claim it). The GPO still reduces it by 2/3 of your government pension, but since the starting amount is higher, you're more likely to receive some benefit.For example, if your husband's benefit is $2,450/month, the potential survivor benefit would be $2,450 (not $1,225 like the spousal benefit). With your $2,890 pension, the GPO reduction would be about $1,927, leaving you with roughly $523/month in survivor benefits after your husband passes.I'd recommend getting this calculation verified by SSA when the time comes, as benefit amounts will have changed by then due to COLAs.
Thank you everyone for your helpful responses! I just accepted the job offer today and feel so much better knowing my kids' benefits won't be affected. I really appreciate all of you taking the time to share your knowledge and experiences.
Congratulations on the new job! Just as a heads-up for future reference, if you ever DO have questions about how survivor benefits work, the "Benefits for Children" publication on SSA's website has good information. And if you're ever confused about something, definitely contact SSA directly rather than relying solely on online advice (including mine!).
I just thought of something important! When you apply, make sure to bring your marriage certificate AND divorce decree to prove you were married at least 10 years. They're super strict about this. My friend almost got denied because she couldn't find her divorce papers right away.
Also bring ur birth certificate. They made my wife go back home to get hers even tho she had her drivers license and passport! SS office is crazy about original documents.
isnt it crazy how complicated they make this?? my mom was in a similar situation and ended up just taking whatever they offered because it was too confusing to figure out the best option. i hope u get this sorted out!
has anyone mentioned that its not just the monthly $$ but also Medicare eligibility? my cousin lost medicaid coverage when her stepdad adopted her after getting survivors benefits and it was a big deal cuz she had some health problems
Based on everything in this thread, I'd recommend these steps: 1) Get married without proceeding with adoption yet, 2) Consult with a Social Security benefits attorney AND a family law attorney about options, 3) Consider legal guardianship as an alternative, 4) Calculate the long-term financial impact of benefits loss versus adoption advantages, 5) Make the decision based on your daughter's specific situation and needs. Remember that this is ultimately a personal decision that balances financial considerations with emotional and legal ones.
does anyone know if the survivor benefit includes the COLA increases that would have happened? like if he passes away this year but I wait 5 years to claim survivors at my FRA would I get his amount plus all the COLAs?
Yes, survivor benefits do include COLA adjustments. If your husband passes away and you wait until your FRA to claim survivor benefits, you would receive his benefit amount plus any COLA increases that would have been applied during those years. The survivor benefit essentially steps into the shoes of the deceased's benefit, including all adjustments that would have occurred.
Thank you all for the helpful information! I feel much more confident about my options now. I'm planning to call SSA to confirm everything directly, but having this knowledge beforehand will help me ask the right questions. It seems like taking my reduced benefit at 62 and then switching to the full survivor benefit at 67 (if needed) would be the best financial strategy in my situation. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and expertise.
Just a warning - when we FINALLY got our Medicare billing straightened out, they gave us only 30 DAYS to pay the entire past-due amount!!! We had to dip into our emergency savings. Make sure you ask about payment plans IMMEDIATELY if they say you owe back payments! Don't let them tell you "we'll send information in the mail" because sometimes that info comes AFTER the due date!!!
This is an important point. By law, Medicare must offer payment plans for past-due premiums if requested. These are called Medicare Extended Repayment Schedules (ERS) and can spread payments over up to 12 months for amounts under $500, and up to 36 months for larger amounts. But you must specifically request the ERS - they often don't offer it automatically.
my wifes on medicare and we get so confused with all the paperwork they send. ss and medicare need to get there systems working together better
I absolutely agree! It seems like such a basic thing for these two programs to coordinate properly, especially for situations like mine that must be pretty common. The lack of clear communication is causing so much stress.
Adrian Connor
my friend got some kind of moms benefit when her son was getting disability but i dont remember what it was called
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Savannah Glover
•That was likely a Mother's or Father's benefit, which is available to a parent caring for a disabled child who is receiving benefits, but only if the child is receiving benefits because their parent (the number holder) is either disabled, retired, or deceased. They don't apply just for being a caregiver to someone on DAC benefits in this situation.
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Felicity Bud
I know this isn't strictly about Social Security, but have you looked into becoming her paid caregiver through your state's Medicaid program? My cousin does this for her disabled daughter in Arizona and it's been a lifesaver financially. The pay isn't amazing but it acknowledges the work you're already doing. Every state has different rules though.
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Kevin Bell
•I haven't explored that option yet! That's a great suggestion. We're in Michigan, so I'll need to research our state's specific programs. Thank you!
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