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As someone who just completed the survivor benefits application process earlier this year, I wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped me navigate the system smoothly. First, when you call SSA to request that written benefit estimate, ask them to mail it to you AND email it if possible. Having both copies saved me when I misplaced the mailed version right before my application appointment. Second, consider setting up automatic reminders on your phone for key dates - not just when to apply, but also when to start gathering documents, when to call for estimates, etc. I set reminders 6 months out, 4 months out, and 3 months out, which kept me on track without last-minute stress. One thing that surprised me was that SSA actually has a "survivorship checklist" they can send you along with the benefit estimate. It lists exactly what documents you'll need for your specific situation. This was incredibly helpful because it was personalized to my circumstances rather than generic advice. Also, if you have any questions about your late husband's work history or earnings record, now is a good time to request his Social Security Statement. Sometimes there are gaps or errors in their records that are easier to correct before you apply rather than during the application process. Your birth year of 1959 puts you in a straightforward situation with the FRA being 66 and 10 months for both retirement and survivor benefits. You're going to do great with all this advance planning!

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This is such valuable information! I had no idea they could email the benefit estimate too - that's a great backup to have. And the automatic phone reminders are brilliant - I'm definitely going to set those up right away so I don't accidentally miss any important deadlines. I'm particularly interested in that "survivorship checklist" you mentioned. That sounds so much more helpful than trying to guess what documents I might need based on generic online information. When you called to request your benefit estimate, did you specifically ask for the checklist or did they offer it automatically? The tip about requesting my husband's Social Security Statement is really smart too. I want to make sure everything is accurate before I start the application process. Is there a specific way to request a deceased spouse's statement, or is it the same process as requesting your own? Thank you so much for sharing these practical details from your recent experience! It's so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this process successfully.

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I specifically asked for the survivorship checklist when I called - they don't automatically offer it, but once I requested it, the representative was very helpful in explaining what it included. Just say something like "Can you also send me the survivorship checklist that shows what documents I'll need for my specific situation?" For your husband's Social Security Statement, you'll need to call SSA directly since you can't access a deceased person's online account. Have his Social Security number ready, along with your marriage certificate information, and they can mail you his earnings record. This helped me catch a missing year of earnings that would have reduced my benefit calculation. One more tip - when you do call for the benefit estimate and checklist, ask them to note in your file that you've requested these documents. That way if you need to call back with questions, any representative can see your previous interactions and pick up where you left off. It saved me from having to re-explain my situation multiple times!

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I'm really grateful that this thread has become such a comprehensive resource! As someone who will need to navigate this process in the future, I'm bookmarking all of these practical tips. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - I recently attended a free Social Security workshop at my local senior center, and they mentioned that some areas have volunteer SHINE counselors (Serving Health Information Needs of Everyone) who can help with Social Security questions at no cost. They're trained volunteers who can review your specific situation and help you understand your options. It might be worth checking if your area has SHINE counselors or similar volunteer programs. Having someone knowledgeable review your plans before you apply could provide additional peace of mind, especially with all the different strategies mentioned here about comparing survivor benefits vs. your own retirement benefits. The workshop leader also emphasized keeping copies of EVERYTHING you submit to SSA, which echoes what several people here have mentioned. She said to treat it like a business transaction and maintain your own complete file of all interactions and documents. @Eve Freeman, you're so well-prepared now with everyone's advice! This thread should be required reading for anyone approaching survivor benefits decisions.

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Thank you for mentioning SHINE counselors! I had never heard of that program before but it sounds like exactly the kind of free, knowledgeable help that could be really valuable when navigating these complex decisions. I'll definitely look into whether there are any SHINE counselors in my area. The idea of having someone review my plans before I apply is really appealing, especially after reading about all the different strategies people have mentioned here. With questions about whether to claim survivor benefits first or my own retirement benefits, having an expert opinion could save me from making the wrong choice. I'm absolutely going to treat this like a business transaction as your workshop leader suggested. After hearing all the stories about SSA losing documents or making calculation errors, keeping my own complete file seems essential for protecting myself. This whole thread has been incredibly educational - I feel like I have a complete roadmap now thanks to everyone's shared experiences and advice!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Scarlett. Losing your mother and then having to navigate all these confusing bureaucratic processes while grieving is incredibly overwhelming. Everyone here has given you excellent information about the SSA death benefit rules. As someone new to this community, I wanted to add that you might also want to check if your mother had any small life insurance policies through places like her bank or credit union - sometimes people have $1,000-$5,000 policies they forgot about that were automatically deducted from their accounts. Also, since you mentioned being her caregiver for two years, if you had to take time off work or incur expenses for her care, you might want to consult with a tax professional about whether any of those caregiving expenses could be deductible on your tax return. It won't help with the immediate funeral costs, but it could provide some financial relief later. The fact that this $255 benefit hasn't been updated since 1954 is truly ridiculous when you consider that the average funeral now costs 12-15 times what it did back then. You're absolutely right to feel frustrated by how inadequate it is. You're handling an incredibly difficult situation with grace, and this community seems really supportive in helping you explore all your options. Hang in there.

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Thank you Keisha, I really appreciate the thoughtful suggestions. The idea about checking with her bank and credit union is a good one - she had accounts at both and I should definitely ask about any automatic policy deductions I might have missed. I hadn't even thought about the tax implications of my caregiving expenses, but that's a really smart point. I did have to use some of my vacation time and pay for various medical supplies and transportation costs over those two years, so I'll definitely consult with a tax professional about that. It really has been overwhelming trying to figure all this out while still processing the grief, but this community has been amazing. Everyone has been so generous with their time and knowledge, offering suggestions I never would have thought of on my own. It's given me hope that there might be other avenues for financial relief even though the SSA death benefit didn't work out. You're absolutely right about how ridiculous it is that the benefit amount hasn't changed in 70 years. It really shows how disconnected these policies have become from the reality of what families actually face today. Thank you for the encouragement - it means a lot during such a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Scarlett. Losing a parent is heartbreaking, and having to deal with all these complicated rules and denials while you're grieving just adds insult to injury. Everyone has explained the SSA death benefit rules perfectly - unfortunately, as an adult child living separately, you don't qualify no matter how much you contributed to her care or funeral costs. It's frustrating how rigid these 1950s-era rules are compared to today's family realities. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: if your mother was receiving Medicare, there might be some medical expenses from her final illness that could still be reimbursed to you if you paid them out of pocket. Sometimes families don't realize they can submit those claims even after the person passes away. It won't be much, but every little bit helps with those overwhelming funeral costs. Also, don't forget to notify the IRS about her passing - if she was due any tax refund for this year, that would go to her estate (which could ultimately benefit you as executor). The $255 amount really is insulting when you consider funeral costs today. You've gotten some great suggestions here about other potential resources. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Thank you so much Nia, that's really helpful advice about the Medicare reimbursements. I did pay for several of her medical expenses out of pocket in those final months, including some prescription costs and medical equipment, so I'll definitely look into submitting those claims. I hadn't realized that was still possible after she passed. Good point about the tax refund too - she did have taxes withheld from her Social Security benefits, so there might be a small refund coming that I hadn't thought about. As executor, every bit helps with settling her estate and covering the remaining expenses. It really has been heartening to see how many people in this community have taken the time to offer practical suggestions and share their own experiences. Even though the original SSA denial was disappointing, I feel like I now have a much better understanding of all the different avenues to explore. The support and knowledge sharing here has made such a difference during what's been an incredibly overwhelming time.

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wait how do u report a death to SS anyway? i need to know for my parents (they're getting older

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You can report a death to Social Security by calling their main number at 1-800-772-1213, or by contacting your local Social Security office. You cannot report a death online. Generally, funeral homes will report the death if you provide them with the deceased's Social Security number as part of their services, but it's always good to follow up directly with SSA to ensure everything is properly processed and to discuss any survivor benefits that might be available.

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Just wanted to add that if your mother-in-law runs into any issues with the SSA-1724 form or the process, she might want to consider visiting her local Social Security office in person rather than trying to handle everything over the phone. Sometimes the in-person staff can be more helpful and can walk through the paperwork with her. Also, bring multiple copies of the death certificate since they often need to keep one for their records. I had to do this when my grandmother passed and the local office was much more efficient than the phone system.

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That's really helpful advice about visiting in person! I'm new to dealing with Social Security issues, but it sounds like having someone walk through the paperwork face-to-face would be much less stressful than trying to figure it out over the phone. Do you know if all local SS offices handle these types of survivor benefit claims, or are there certain locations that specialize in this? Also, is there typically a long wait time for walk-in appointments, or can you usually get seen the same day?

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I had this exact same issue a few months ago! What finally worked for me was switching to a completely different device - I was trying on my laptop and it kept failing, but when I used my phone it went through no problem. Also make sure you're not using any browser extensions that might interfere. If you're still stuck, you can also try going to your local SSA office - they can help you submit the application in person and sometimes that's actually faster than dealing with the website headaches.

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That's really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about trying a different device. It's so weird how these government websites can be so finicky - sometimes what works on one device completely fails on another. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I work in IT and see this kind of issue a lot with government sites. One thing that might help is checking if JavaScript is enabled in your browser - some SSA forms won't submit properly without it. Also, if you're using a VPN, try disconnecting it temporarily as government sites sometimes block VPN traffic. Another trick is to fill out the form completely but don't submit it right away - let it sit for a minute or two, then try submitting. Sometimes the session needs time to fully establish. Good luck!

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I'm so sorry you and your husband are going through this difficult time. The information shared here is really helpful, and I wanted to add one more thing that might be worth considering: if your husband's health allows, you both might want to schedule an appointment with your local Social Security office now to discuss your options in person. The staff there can give you specific calculations based on both of your earnings records and help you understand exactly what the survivor benefit would be compared to your current benefit. They can also walk you through the application process so you know what to expect. Having this conversation while you're both able to participate could help reduce stress later on. My thoughts are with you both during this challenging time.

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This is excellent advice about meeting with Social Security in person while you're both able to participate. Having those specific calculations and understanding the exact process ahead of time would definitely help reduce uncertainty during an already stressful situation. Thank you for such a thoughtful and practical suggestion.

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I'm truly sorry to hear about your husband's diagnosis and the difficult situation you're both facing. From what I understand based on the other responses here, you're getting good information about the survivor benefits. One thing I wanted to mention that might help with your planning: Social Security also has an online benefit estimator tool on their website (ssa.gov) where you can get estimates of what survivor benefits might look like. While it's not a substitute for talking to them directly, it could give you some preliminary numbers to work with as you're planning. Also, if your husband is comfortable with it, you might want to create a my Social Security account online for him (if he doesn't already have one) so you can both see his earnings record and estimated benefits. This could help you understand what his full retirement benefit would be, which is what your survivor benefit would be based on. Wishing you both strength during this challenging time. The fact that you're being proactive about planning shows real wisdom and care for your future security.

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Thank you for mentioning the online benefit estimator - I didn't know that existed! That sounds like it would be really helpful for getting a better understanding of the numbers before we meet with Social Security in person. We'll definitely look into setting up his online account if he doesn't have one already. I really appreciate all the practical suggestions everyone has shared here during such a difficult time.

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