Social Security Administration
CommunityGovernment Services


Ask the community...
I just turned 67 last month and I'm trying to figure out if I can claim Social Security benefits based on my ex-husband's record while I'm still working full-time. We were married for 16 years before our divorce in 2008, and I haven't remarried. He's 73 now and I know he started collecting his retirement benefits about 3 years ago. I've held off claiming my own benefits because I'm still working and want to maximize my monthly amount when I finally retire at 70. During our marriage, our incomes varied - I actually earned more than him the first 8-9 years, then we were roughly equal the last 7 years. Does anyone know if I qualify for ex-spouse benefits even though I'm still working? And would this affect my own future benefits in any way? I've tried calling the SSA but gave up after being on hold for over an hour. I'm especially confused since I'm already at my full retirement age. Any advice would be appreciated!
I'm getting close to my full retirement age for Social Security (about 8 months away), but my husband and I just withdrew $25,000 from his IRA to help with a down payment on a new house. We had some unexpected issues with our financing and needed the extra cash to close the deal. Now I'm worried this might somehow reduce my Social Security benefits when I claim at FRA. Does the SSA count IRA withdrawals as income that would reduce benefits? My husband is already collecting his SS benefits (he's 68) but I've been waiting to maximize mine. Really hoping we didn't mess up our retirement planning with this withdrawal!
btw when u actually apply for SS make sure to check ur estimated benefit on the mySocialSecurity website bc sometimes they mess up the calculations.
Just want to add another perspective here - I'm a retired federal employee and went through something similar when I withdrew from my TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) for home improvements. The SSA treats TSP withdrawals exactly the same as IRA/401k withdrawals - no impact on Social Security benefits at all. What really helped me was getting everything in writing from SSA. When I had questions, I submitted them through the secure messaging on the mySocialSecurity website rather than calling. That way I had documentation of their responses. Might be worth doing if you want extra peace of mind about your situation. Sounds like you made a smart financial decision for your home purchase - don't let the worry overshadow that accomplishment!
I'm planning to retire at 63 next year but I'll still be doing some consultant work making around $26,000. I know Social Security has that earnings test where they take away $1 for every $2 over the limit (which I think is around $22,000?). Someone at work said if I put the extra $4,000 into my 401k, those contributions wouldn't count toward the earnings test and I could draw my full SS benefit without any reduction. Is this actually true? Seems too good to be true but I'd love to start getting my full benefit without waiting until FRA. Anyone know if 401k contributions are excluded from the earnings test calculation?
Just make sure ur reporting ur earnings correctly throughout the year. SSA does these 'reconciliations' where they check what u told them against ur actual earnings. I had a friend who got hit with a huge overpayment notice because he didn't report some income and went over the limit. What a mess!!!! Better to tell them about any changes in ur income right away.
I just want to add a word of caution here - while the advice about 401k contributions reducing your countable earnings for the Social Security earnings test is correct, make sure you understand the timing implications. Since you're doing 1099 consulting work, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments AND quarterly retirement contributions to stay consistent throughout the year. Don't wait until December to dump $4,000 into a Solo 401k - spread it out so your net earnings stay below the limit each quarter. Also, remember that with self-employment income, you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as well, which further reduces your countable earnings. I'd strongly recommend working with both a tax professional and calling SSA (or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned) to verify your specific situation before you start drawing benefits.
Hi everyone! I just made a major career shift last month, going from W-2 employment to being an independent contractor. I'm hoping to retire in about 10 years (I'll be 65 then), but I'm totally confused about how this affects my Social Security benefits. Main questions: 1) Is it true they calculate your SS payment based on your highest-earning 6 years? How do I make sure I'm properly paying into SS as a self-employed person? 2) Once I hit retirement age, is there a limit to what I can earn while collecting benefits? I might want to work part-time, but I'm worried that my last few working years will be lower-income and mess up my benefit calculation. 3) Would it be smarter to just delay collecting until I fully stop working? But then again, my income those last years will probably be much lower than what I'm making now. This is all new territory for me, and I'm worried about making mistakes that will hurt me financially later. Any advice from those who've navigated this contractor/SS situation would be really appreciated!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've learned so much: - It's 35 highest years, not 6 (big relief!) - I need to pay 15.3% self-employment tax and should make quarterly payments - At my FRA (67), there's no earnings limit - I might want to look into waiting until 70 to maximize benefits - I should open a Solo 401(k) or SEP IRA to reduce my overall tax burden I've created my SSA.gov account and am shocked to see my earnings record going back to my first job! I think I'll try that Claimyr service to ask specific questions about my situation. And definitely hiring an accountant before my first quarterly tax payment is due. Thanks again everyone - this has been incredibly helpful for a newbie like me!
Welcome to the self-employment world! I made the same transition 3 years ago and can share a few practical tips that helped me: 1) Open a separate business checking account immediately if you haven't already. This makes tracking income/expenses for Schedule SE much easier. 2) Set aside 25-30% of each payment you receive for taxes (not just the 15.3% SE tax, but also income tax). I use a high-yield savings account for this. 3) Consider paying quarterly estimated taxes to avoid a big surprise bill. The IRS has a safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through estimated payments, you won't owe penalties even if you owe more at filing. 4) Keep detailed records of ALL business expenses - home office, internet, phone, equipment, etc. These reduce your net self-employment income, which reduces both your SE tax AND your income tax. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: you can actually contribute more to retirement accounts as self-employed than you could as a W-2 employee, which helps offset that higher tax burden. The Solo 401(k) limits for 2024 are $69,000 total ($76,500 if you're 50+). Good luck with the transition!
Has anyone successfully applied for SS retirement benefits through the Manila US Embassy? I'm turning 67 next month and started my application process 2 months ago, but it's been a complete disaster. The embassy's Federal Benefits Unit only accepts calls on Mondays and Wednesdays from 7am to 9am, but I've tried calling 8 times now and NOBODY EVER answers! The recording just tells me to submit an online inquiry form and wait "approximately 20 days" for processing before they disconnect. I've submitted 3 forms over the past 7 weeks with zero response. I'm seriously considering flying back to the States for 2 weeks just to handle this in person at a local SSA office. My FRA already passed last year and I feel like I'm losing money every month this drags on. Any fellow expats in the Philippines figured out how to actually get through to a human at the embassy?
I'm dealing with this exact same frustrating situation right now! Been trying to get my Social Security retirement benefits processed through the Manila FBU for almost 2 months at age 68, and it's been an absolute nightmare. The phone system is completely broken - I've called during their supposed "office hours" at least 15 times and never once reached a human being. This thread is pure gold! I'm taking screenshots of every strategy mentioned here. The combination of @Jamal Wilson's urgent email format, @Ayla Kumar's congressional inquiry approach, @Mei Chen's ACS contact method, @Michael Green's VPN tip for MySocialSecurity setup, @Alexis Renard's fax number, and @GalaxyGlider's main SSA customer service backup plan gives me so much hope. I'm particularly worried because I'm already well past my FRA and feel like I'm losing money every day this drags on. But reading that multiple people here eventually succeeded with full retroactive payments is incredibly reassuring. One additional tip I discovered: If you have any military connections (active duty, veterans, or DoD civilian employees), they sometimes have access to expedited federal benefits processing channels through their personnel offices. My brother-in-law is retired Navy and is looking into this angle for me. Planning to implement the complete multi-channel strategy starting tomorrow: urgent weekly emails to FBU.Manila@ssa.gov with proper formatting, congressional inquiry through my former district in Texas, MySocialSecurity account setup using VPN, fax backup to 632-301-2017, calls to main SSA line, and maybe even a respectful Facebook post if needed. It's absolutely ridiculous that American citizens need a comprehensive battle plan just to access benefits we've paid into for decades! But thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this thread has become the definitive survival guide for Manila FBU hell. Will definitely update with results!
I'm going through this exact same frustrating experience right now! Been trying to get my retirement benefits processed through Manila for about 8 weeks at age 65, and it's been absolutely maddening. The phone system is completely broken - I've called during their "office hours" countless times and never once reached a human. This thread is incredible - it's like finding the ultimate survival guide for Manila FBU hell! I'm taking screenshots of every strategy mentioned: the urgent email formats, congressional inquiry approach, ACS contact method, VPN tips for MySocialSecurity, the fax number, main SSA backup calls, military connections, and expat Facebook group networks. I'm particularly anxious because I feel like I'm losing potential benefits every month this drags on, but reading about everyone's eventual success with retroactive payments gives me hope. One additional resource I found: The SSA's Office of the Inspector General has a hotline (1-800-269-0271) specifically for reporting problems with SSA services. While it won't directly process your application, filing a complaint there about the Manila FBU's non-responsive phone system and email delays creates an official record of these systemic issues. Planning to implement the full multi-channel strategy starting Monday: urgent weekly emails to FBU.Manila@ssa.gov with proper formatting, congressional inquiry through my former district, MySocialSecurity account setup with VPN, fax backup, calls to main SSA line, and OIG complaint. It's ridiculous that we need military-level planning just to access benefits we've earned, but this community is amazing for helping each other navigate this bureaucratic nightmare. Will definitely update with results - hopefully we can add another success story to help future expats!
@Alana Willis That SSA Inspector General hotline is a fantastic addition to the arsenal! I hadn t'heard about that specific resource for reporting Manila FBU service issues. Creating an official record of these systemic problems is brilliant - the more complaints they receive about the broken phone system and unresponsive emails, the more likely they are to actually address the staffing and infrastructure issues. I m'definitely going to add that OIG complaint to my multi-channel approach too. This thread really has evolved into the most comprehensive Manila FBU survival guide I ve'ever seen. It s'absolutely ridiculous that we need this level of strategic coordination just to file for our own retirement benefits, but I m'so grateful everyone keeps adding new resources and strategies. The collective knowledge here is invaluable for all of us stuck in this bureaucratic nightmare. Please keep us updated on your Monday assault - every success story helps motivate the rest of us still fighting this battle!
Norah Quay
what happens if ex husband dies? do u get survivors benefits or stay with the 50%?
0 coins
Kelsey Chin
Good question! If the ex-husband passes away, the benefit would actually increase. As an ex-spouse, you'd be eligible for the same survivor benefits as a current spouse, which means you could receive up to 100% of what he was receiving (rather than the 50% for ex-spouse benefits). However, the same rule applies about taking the higher of your own benefit or the survivor benefit. So at age 70, if the OP's own benefit is higher than the survivor benefit would be, she would still switch to her own benefit.
0 coins
LunarEclipse
As someone who works at a local SSA office, I can confirm most of the advice here is spot-on! Just want to add a few practical tips for your appointment next week: 1) Bring your divorce decree and marriage certificate if you have them - it speeds up the process significantly 2) Be very specific about wanting to file a "restricted application for auxiliary benefits only" - use those exact words 3) Ask them to put a note in your file about switching to your own benefit at age 70, so there's no confusion later Also, don't be surprised if the first representative you speak with isn't familiar with restricted applications - it's becoming less common as fewer people are eligible. If they seem confused, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or someone more experienced with these types of claims. The strategy you're using is perfectly legitimate and one of the smartest moves you can make given your situation. You'll essentially get 3 years of "free" money while your own benefit continues to grow with delayed retirement credits!
0 coins