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Medicare premium vs. small Social Security benefit confusion - WEP impact on billing

So frustrated trying to figure out my Medicare premium situation with a tiny Social Security benefit! I started collecting a small SS retirement benefit ($182/month) in February 2025 - it's reduced because of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) from my government pension. When I first qualified, the SSA rep told me they would automatically use my monthly benefit to pay toward my Medicare Part B premium, and then Medicare would bill me annually for whatever amount wasn't covered. Made sense. But I just received my SSA-1099 for 2025, and it only shows the one-time payment of $182 I received initially (before the Medicare premium deduction started), with nothing about the ongoing Medicare arrangement. Medicare thinks Social Security is handling the premiums, but I can't get through to SSA to confirm what's happening. I've called dozens of times over two weeks and either get disconnected or stuck on hold forever. Does anyone understand how this billing is supposed to work when your SS benefit is less than your Medicare premium? Will I get a surprise bill? Is the 1099 correct? I'm completely confused about who's responsible for what here.

Adrian Hughes

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This is actually a common situation with WEP-affected benefits that are smaller than the Medicare premium. The SSA-1099 for 2025 only shows the direct payment you received ($182) because that was paid directly to you. The ongoing Medicare premium payments aren't reflected on the 1099 because those payments are essentially "invisible" to you - SSA sends that money directly to Medicare. Medicare should be sending you quarterly bills for the difference between your SS benefit and the full premium amount. For example, if your premium is $240/month and your benefit is $182/month, Medicare should bill you quarterly for the $58/month difference (about $174 per quarter). If you're not receiving these quarterly bills from Medicare, that's where the problem lies. Have you checked your Medicare account online?

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Lara Woods

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Thank you for explaining! I've checked my Medicare.gov account, but it just says I'm enrolled with premiums being handled through Social Security. No mention of quarterly bills being generated. I guess I need to somehow reach Medicare directly then? It's so confusing when agencies don't communicate with each other properly.

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Molly Chambers

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MY HUSBAND HAD EXACT SAME ISSUE!!! It's ridiculous how they handle these WEP situations. We called Medicare EIGHT TIMES and SS ELEVEN TIMES last year to straighten this out. Turns out neither office knew what the other was doing!!! Medicare kept saying SS was handling everything, SS said Medicare should be billing us quarterly. After months of frustration, we finally got a letter from Medicare saying we owed $783 in unpaid premiums!!! No warning, no previous bills, NOTHING! Check your mailbox carefully - you might get hit with a big bill like we did. The system is BROKEN for people with small SS checks.

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Lara Woods

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Oh no! That's exactly what I'm afraid of - getting hit with a massive bill out of nowhere. Did you end up having to pay the full amount at once? I'm on a fixed income and can't handle surprise bills like that.

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Ian Armstrong

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As someone who worked at SSA for 15 years, I can clarify this situation. When your SS benefit is less than your Medicare premium, the process works like this: 1. SSA applies your entire monthly benefit toward your Medicare premium 2. CMS (Medicare) bills you quarterly for the remainder 3. Your SSA-1099 will only show actual payments made to you, not the premium payments transferred to Medicare The most likely issue is that CMS hasn't properly set up the quarterly billing. This happens about 10-15% of the time with WEP-affected beneficiaries because the systems don't communicate perfectly. You need to contact Medicare directly at 1-800-MEDICARE and specifically ask about your "Medicare Premium Bill" (CMS-500) status. Tell them you have a partial premium withholding from a reduced Social Security benefit and need to verify your billing status. Don't panic - they can't charge penalties if they failed to bill you properly. This is fixable, but you do need to be proactive.

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Lara Woods

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! The term "partial premium withholding" seems to be the key phrase I was missing. I'll call Medicare tomorrow and specifically mention that. Really appreciate knowing what to ask for - the CMS-500 status check. It's such a relief to understand how this is supposed to work!

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Eli Butler

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had similar issue last yr. called ss 6 times never got anwsers. Medicare sent huge bill in December all at once! wish they would just explain this stuff better when u sign up.

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Lara Woods

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That's awful! Did they at least let you set up a payment plan when they finally sent the bill? I'm going to be really upset if I've been enrolled for months with no bills and then suddenly get hit with everything at once.

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Mateo Warren

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Jumping in to say Medicare & Social Security confusion is the most frustrating thing ever. My retirement benefit is $876 so I don't have the same issue as you, but I've spent countless hours trying to understand how all this works. Phones are useless these days - I physically went to my SSA office last month after weeks of failed calls.

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Lara Woods

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I've thought about going to the office in person too. Was it helpful? Did you have to wait a long time? The nearest one is about 45 minutes away from me so I've been hesitant to make the trip.

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Adrian Hughes

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To follow up on my earlier comment, this is definitely a case where getting confirmation in writing is important. After you speak with Medicare about the quarterly billing, request written confirmation of: 1. The exact amount of your Medicare premium 2. The exact amount being paid from your Social Security benefit 3. The exact amount you'll be billed quarterly 4. When those quarterly bills will be sent Also ask them to document in your account that you've been proactively trying to resolve this billing issue. This creates a record showing you've been attempting to address it, which can help if there are any questions later about why payments weren't made. The WEP complication makes these cases trickier because the systems are primarily designed for people whose benefits fully cover their Medicare premiums or who don't receive Social Security at all.

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Lara Woods

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Such good advice! I hadn't even thought about getting written confirmation but that makes total sense. I'm going to request all of those specific items and make sure they note in my account that I've been trying to resolve this. Thank you again!

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Molly Chambers

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Just a warning - when we FINALLY got our Medicare billing straightened out, they gave us only 30 DAYS to pay the entire past-due amount!!! We had to dip into our emergency savings. Make sure you ask about payment plans IMMEDIATELY if they say you owe back payments! Don't let them tell you "we'll send information in the mail" because sometimes that info comes AFTER the due date!!!

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Ian Armstrong

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This is an important point. By law, Medicare must offer payment plans for past-due premiums if requested. These are called Medicare Extended Repayment Schedules (ERS) and can spread payments over up to 12 months for amounts under $500, and up to 36 months for larger amounts. But you must specifically request the ERS - they often don't offer it automatically.

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Lydia Bailey

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my wifes on medicare and we get so confused with all the paperwork they send. ss and medicare need to get there systems working together better

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Lara Woods

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I absolutely agree! It seems like such a basic thing for these two programs to coordinate properly, especially for situations like mine that must be pretty common. The lack of clear communication is causing so much stress.

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