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Omar Fawaz

WEP-affected retirees can't set up direct deposit for upcoming Social Security payments - any solutions?

My wife and I are both retired educators (31 and 28 years respectively) who have small Social Security benefits reduced by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP). Currently, our tiny SS benefits don't even cover our Medicare Part B premiums, so we pay around $425 each quarterly out-of-pocket to Medicare. With all the talk about WEP reform possibly happening, we need to prepare for potentially receiving actual SS checks or backpay if the penalty gets modified or removed. Problem is, we've never received actual SS payments so we don't have direct deposit set up. The MySocialSecurity site has an option for setting this up, but it redirects us to "contact SSA" when we try to use it. My wife spent nearly 4 hours on hold yesterday trying to reach someone before giving up. What's the most efficient way to get direct deposit established with SSA when you've never received payments before? Anyone successfully navigate this particular situation? If WEP reform happens, we want to be ready for any payments without dealing with paper checks or further delays.

I faced a similar situation last year when I needed to set up direct deposit for survivor benefits. After trying the phone route unsuccessfully (kept getting disconnected after 2+ hour holds), I discovered a lifesaver service called Claimyr that got me through to a real SSA agent in about 20 minutes. Their website is claimyr.com and there's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU They call SSA for you, navigate the phone tree, sit on hold, then call you once they reach an agent. Seriously worth it for something important like setting up your direct deposit. The agent I spoke with was able to set up my banking information right away.

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Diego Vargas

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Does that service really work? Sounds too good to be true with how bad the SSA phone systems are these days. I'm also WEP affected and have spent countless hours trying to reach them about recalculating my benefits.

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It absolutely worked for me. I was skeptical too but was getting desperate after multiple failed attempts to reach SSA. The agent I got was actually really helpful and solved my direct deposit issue in minutes once I finally got through.

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Omar Fawaz

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Thank you for suggesting this! I've never heard of this service but at this point, we're willing to try anything. My wife was so frustrated after spending her entire afternoon on hold. I'll definitely check out that website and video.

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For direct deposit setup when you've never received payments, you actually have 3 options: 1. Phone: Yes, it's frustrating but currently the most reliable method. Best times to call are Wednesday-Friday at 8:30am ET or 4:00pm ET when call volumes are lower. 2. In-person appointment: Schedule through the online appointment system at ssa.gov (often 2-3 week wait but guaranteed service) 3. Faxed request: Complete form SSA-1199 (Direct Deposit Sign-Up Form), attach a voided check, and fax to your local office with a cover letter explaining your WEP situation and anticipation of potential payments. Regarding WEP reform - while there are several proposals, nothing has passed yet. The most prominent bills would either repeal WEP entirely or replace it with a proportional formula that would increase benefits for many affected teachers, but implementation timelines remain unclear.

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Omar Fawaz

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Thank you for these detailed options! I hadn't thought about the fax route. Do you know if there's a way to find the fax number for our local office? The SSA-1199 form sounds like exactly what we need. And yes, we're tracking the WEP reform proposals closely - anything would be better than the current system for educators.

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You can find your local office fax number by going to ssa.gov/locator, entering your zip code, and selecting your local office. The office details page should list the fax number along with other contact information. Make sure to keep the fax receipt and follow up in 10 business days if you don't receive confirmation. The 1199 form is also available for download on ssa.gov under "Forms".

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StarStrider

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Quick point of clarification - if you're currently paying for Medicare Part B out-of-pocket because your SS benefit is less than the premium, you're in what's called "direct billing" status. Once any WEP reform passes that increases your benefit amount above the Part B premium threshold (currently $174.70/month for most people in 2025), you'll automatically be switched from direct billing to having premiums deducted from your SS payment - this is mandatory. Setting up direct deposit now is smart planning. You're absolutely right that you want this in place BEFORE any backpay or adjusted payments begin. Your state retirement pension direct deposit setup is completely separate from your SSA direct deposit setup, which causes confusion for many dual-pensioners.

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Omar Fawaz

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Thank you for explaining that! Yes, we're in that "direct billing" status and get those quarterly Medicare premium bills. That's helpful to know about the automatic switch when benefits exceed premiums. Our state teacher retirement system deposits are working fine - it's just this SSA setup we need to complete.

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Sean Doyle

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!! I spent 32 years teaching and lost nearly $800/month because of WEP even though I had enough quarters from summer jobs!!!!! They STEAL our earned benefits and then make it IMPOSSIBLE to even contact them!!!! This is why I tell young teachers to AVOID public service careers!!!! The direct deposit process is deliberately complicated because they don't want to pay us what they OWE!!!

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Zara Rashid

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I understand your frustration with WEP penalties, but the direct deposit issue isn't actually related to that. SSA has the same process for everyone. The phone wait times are definitely a problem though - they've been understaffed for years.

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Sean Doyle

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It's ALL connected!!! They cut our benefits with WEP, make us pay our Medicare out of pocket, then create impossible barriers to updating our accounts!!! Did you know Congress EXEMPTED THEMSELVES from WEP???? They get BOTH pensions!!!!!

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Luca Romano

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my brother in law had this same problem last yr. he ended up going in person to the ssa office and got it fixed in one visit. took like 2 hrs total but at least it was done

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Omar Fawaz

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That's good to know! Maybe an in-person visit is our best bet. Did your brother-in-law need to bring anything specific with him to set up the direct deposit?

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Luca Romano

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he said bring id, ss card, voided check or the bank routing info, and his medicare card. they made him fill out some form there. also bring a book cuz the wait was long lol

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Zara Rashid

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Have you tried scheduling a callback through the SSA website? It's a fairly recent feature but has worked well for me twice now. You provide your number and they call you back in the specified window instead of waiting on hold. Also, regarding the WEP reform - I've been tracking this closely. The current leading proposal would replace WEP with a proportional formula that would increase benefits by around 40% for most affected teachers. It would be fully implemented for anyone receiving benefits by the end of 2026, with partial implementation starting in 2025. The backpay component would likely only cover a few months, not the entire period you've been affected by WEP. Your state teacher association might also have resources for helping members navigate these SSA issues. Many larger teacher associations have dedicated retirement specialists who can guide you through SSA processes.

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Omar Fawaz

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I didn't know about the callback feature! Where exactly on the SSA website do you access this? We'd much prefer a scheduled callback to sitting on hold indefinitely. Thank you for the WEP reform details too. Even a 40% improvement would make a significant difference for us. Right now my benefit is reduced by about $600/month and my wife's by about $550/month due to WEP.

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Zara Rashid

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The callback option appears on the Contact Us page (ssa.gov/agency/contact), but fair warning - it's only available when call volume isn't at peak levels. Try early morning (right when they open) or later afternoon around 4pm when requesting it. You'll need your SSN and basic verification info ready when they call back. With reductions that significant, you'd definitely see a meaningful improvement under most reform proposals. The exact formula is still being debated, but most versions would benefit long-service teachers like yourselves more than those with shorter teaching careers.

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Diego Vargas

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I was affected by WEP too after 25 years of teaching in Texas. What worked for me was mailing in the Direct Deposit form with a copy of a voided check. Took about 3 weeks to process but I got a confirmation letter. Just google "SSA-1199 form" to download it. My brother tried the phone for weeks with no luck, but my mailed form worked first try.

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Omar Fawaz

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That's interesting! Did you mail it to your local office or to a central processing center? I like the idea of having a paper trail too.

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Diego Vargas

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I sent it to my local office (address on the SSA website when you search by zip code). I also included a brief cover letter explaining I was a WEP-affected teacher wanting to establish direct deposit for future payments. Make sure to include your SSN and contact phone on the letter!

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UPDATE: We took everyone's advice and tried multiple approaches simultaneously. We mailed in the SSA-1199 form with a voided check, AND used the Claimyr service mentioned above to get through by phone. The phone method worked fastest - got us connected to an agent in about 25 minutes, and they set up the direct deposit immediately. They confirmed it's now in the system and ready for any future payments or backpay if the WEP reform goes through. Thank you all for your help!

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Sean Doyle

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DID THEY TELL YOU WHEN THE WEP REFORM WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN??? Or are they just stringing us along AGAIN like they've done for 20+ YEARS???

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The agent couldn't provide any specific timeline on WEP reform since it's still pending legislation. She did confirm that IF it passes and IF we're eligible for adjusted payments, they'd automatically process everything once the direct deposit was set up. At least we're prepared now regardless of what happens with the legislation.

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Zoe Papadakis

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As a fellow educator dealing with WEP, I wanted to share another option that worked for me. If you have a local SSA office that offers walk-in services (not all do anymore), you can sometimes get helped without an appointment during off-peak hours. I went to my local office at 2pm on a Tuesday and waited about 45 minutes, but the representative was able to set up my direct deposit on the spot. They also updated my address and verified all my information while I was there. It might be worth calling your local office first to confirm they still accept walk-ins for this type of service request. Having everything ready in one visit was definitely worth the wait time for me.

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