Will my SSDI DAC benefits decrease when mom claims Social Security spousal benefits?
I'm currently receiving Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits through Social Security because of my father's SSDI. My payment is exactly 50% of his monthly benefit amount. My mom has never worked outside the home and is planning to file for spousal benefits when she turns 67 next year. I'm really worried about the family maximum limit affecting my benefits once she starts collecting. Does anyone know if spousal benefits count against the family maximum calculation differently than child benefits? Will my payment go down when my mom starts receiving her benefits? This is stressing me out because I rely completely on my DAC benefits for living expenses.
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Levi Parker
yes this will affect ur payment. family max is family max no matter what type benefit ppl get from the same record. ur mom gets 50% too so that puts u over the max usually. sorry to be the bearer of bad news
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Savannah Weiner
•Oh no... that's what I was afraid of. Do you know roughly how much my payment might go down? Are we talking a small adjustment or a significant cut?
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Libby Hassan
There's a bit more nuance to this situation. Family Maximum Rules do apply across all auxiliary beneficiaries on a single worker's record, which includes both spouse and child benefits. However, the exact impact depends on your father's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) and what the Family Maximum actually is for his record. Typically, the Family Maximum ranges from 150% to 180% of the worker's disability benefit. If your father is receiving $2,000 monthly, for example, the family maximum might be around $3,000-$3,600. Since you're already receiving 50% ($1,000 in this example) and your mother will claim another 50%, the total would exceed 100% but might still fall within the family maximum. If the total does exceed the family maximum, then the auxiliary benefits (yours and your mother's) would be proportionally reduced. The worker's benefit (your father's) is never reduced under these rules. I'd recommend calling SSA directly to ask about the specific family maximum on your father's record. This will give you a clearer picture of potential reductions.
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Savannah Weiner
•Thank you so much for explaining this! My dad gets about $2,450/month, so I receive around $1,225. Do you know if there's any way to calculate the exact family maximum online, or do I really need to call SSA to find out? Their phone lines are always so backed up.
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Hunter Hampton
I went through something similar when my wife started collecting on my record! You definitely need to be prepared for some reduction. Based on your dad's benefit amount of $2,450, if the family maximum is 180% (which is typical), that would be about $4,410 total allowable benefits for all of you combined. Your dad gets $2,450, you get $1,225, and your mom would be eligible for $1,225. That totals $4,900, which exceeds the family maximum by $490. In this case, only the auxiliary benefits get reduced proportionally. So you and your mom would each see a reduction of about $245 per month from what you'd otherwise receive. This is just an estimate though - your actual family maximum could be different. One important thing to note: your mom might want to consider if claiming at exactly 67 is her best option. If she waits until 70, her spousal benefit won't increase (unlike retirement benefits), so there's usually no advantage to waiting past Full Retirement Age for spousal benefits.
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Sofia Peña
•This is excellent information, but there's one additional factor to consider. If the parent receiving SSDI (the father) is not yet at Full Retirement Age, the family maximum calculation uses a different formula that's typically lower than the retirement family maximum. For SSDI family maximums, the formula is approximately: - 85% of the first $1,308 of the worker's AIME (Average Indexed Monthly Earnings) - 150% of the remaining AIME up to a certain threshold This often results in a lower family maximum than the retirement calculation, which means the reduction to auxiliary benefits might be greater than estimated above. The only way to know the exact amount is to contact SSA and ask specifically about the Disabled Worker Family Maximum on this record.
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Levi Parker
my brother lost almost $300 when my mom filed!!! no one told us it would happen either and it totally screwed him up financially for months. call SSA ahead of time to get the EXACT amount so u can plan.
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Savannah Weiner
•That's terrible! I'm sorry your brother had to go through that. I'm definitely going to try to find out the exact amount before my mom files. I can't afford to suddenly lose hundreds of dollars from my monthly check.
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Aaron Boston
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Sophia Carter
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Aaron Boston
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Chloe Zhang
I'm in a somewhat similar situation with my daughter receiving DAC benefits and my wife now eligible for spousal benefits. One thing that hasn't been mentioned - if you're receiving Medicare, make sure you account for that too when budgeting. If your premium is currently deducted from your SSDI payment and your benefit amount decreases, the percentage of your check going to Medicare will increase. Also, if you're receiving any means-tested benefits like SNAP, housing assistance, or Medicaid (not Medicare), a reduction in your SSDI might actually increase some of those benefits to partially offset the loss. It's complicated but worth looking into ALL your benefits to see the total financial impact.
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Savannah Weiner
•That's a really good point about Medicare! I am on Medicare and have the premium taken out of my check. And I do get a small amount of SNAP benefits too. I should probably talk to my benefits counselor about all of this to see how everything will be affected.
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Hunter Hampton
One more thing to consider - if your mother has ANY work history at all, even just a few years of work, she might be able to claim her own retirement benefit if it would be higher than the reduced spousal benefit after the family maximum is applied. It's worth having her check her own Social Security statement online to see if she has enough credits for even a small retirement benefit. Sometimes people forget about work they did decades ago.
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Savannah Weiner
•Thanks for suggesting this. My mom did work for about 3 years back in the 80s before I was born, but I don't think it was enough to qualify for her own benefits. But I'll definitely have her check her statement to make sure.
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Sofia Peña
I work with families in this exact situation. Here's what you should do: 1. Call SSA and specifically ask for the "family maximum amount on your father's record" and then ask "what the auxiliary benefit reduction would be when another beneficiary is added" 2. If there will be a reduction, ask your mom to request a "month-by-month benefit projection" showing what both you and she would receive after she files 3. Consider having your mother schedule her application 3-4 months in advance through a phone appointment, and specifically request that the claims representative make a note about the family maximum calculation 4. If you rely on these benefits for essential expenses, start budgeting now for the potential reduction One important note: if your father passes away in the future, the family maximum calculation changes again, and survivor benefits have a different maximum formula than disability benefits.
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Savannah Weiner
•Thank you so much for these specific steps! This gives me a clear plan of action. I especially appreciate the tip about having my mom request the month-by-month projection - I wouldn't have known to ask for that. And I'll definitely start setting aside some money now just in case there's a significant reduction.
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Sophia Carter
wait i'm confused... I thought DAC benefits were only for adults who became disabled before age 22? Is that what ur situation is? Or are u just a minor child getting regular benefits? The rules might be different.
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Libby Hassan
•You're right that DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits are for adults who became disabled before age 22. Based on the original post, it appears they are receiving DAC benefits, not minor child benefits. The family maximum rules apply to both situations, but you're correct that it's important to be clear about which benefit type is involved as some other rules do differ.
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Savannah Weiner
•Yes, I became disabled when I was 19, and I'm 34 now. So I receive DAC benefits because my disability began before I turned 22. Sorry if that wasn't clear!
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Levi Parker
btw has ur dad been on SSDI for 2 years already? cuz if he just got approved recently and is still in his 24month medicare waiting period, that could change things too. the whole system is so COMPLICATED!!!!!
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Savannah Weiner
•Yes, my dad has been on SSDI for about 5 years now, so we're well past the Medicare waiting period. But you're right - this system is INCREDIBLY complicated! Every time I think I understand one part, I discover there are ten more rules I didn't know about.
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