Will adopting my granddaughter affect my disabled adult children's Social Security benefits? Family maximum confusion
Our family situation is complex and I'm struggling to understand how Social Security benefits might be affected by a pending adoption. My husband and I (both 65) started collecting our retirement benefits early in January 2025, before our full retirement age. We have several adult children with disabilities living in various arrangements: - Two disabled adult daughters live with us and receive Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits on our records - Another daughter with disabilities works part-time earning about $3,200/month and receives some SSI. She lives independently with her partner - A fourth daughter has paralysis from a spinal injury and collects SSDI on her own work record. She lives with her boyfriend and her child who has disabilities Here's where it gets more complicated: We currently have legal guardianship of our granddaughter (our son's ex-wife's child) and plan to finalize her adoption this year. I have two questions that even SSA representatives seem confused about when I call: 1. Would adopting our granddaughter impact the DAC benefits our adult disabled children currently receive? Would it affect the family maximum? 2. I've read about "child-in-care" benefits - should we be applying for this for anyone in our situation? We've dedicated our lives to raising children with special needs through adoption, but navigating the benefits system is overwhelming. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!
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Lauren Johnson
wow what a complicated situatuon. my sister got benefits for her disabled son but i dont think its the same as yours. did you try calling the SSA directly? they should know this stuff
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William Schwarz
•Yes, I've called multiple times but keep getting different answers. One rep told me the adoption wouldn't affect anything, another said it might reduce everyone's benefits due to the family maximum. It's so frustrating!
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Jade Santiago
This is definitely a complex scenario that touches on multiple aspects of Social Security. Let me try to help clarify: 1. Regarding adoption and the Family Maximum: When you adopt your granddaughter, she may become eligible for benefits as your dependent child (if she's under 18). This could potentially impact your family maximum calculation, which limits the total amount paid to all beneficiaries on one earner's record. If you're already at or near your family maximum with your DAC children, adding another beneficiary could cause a redistribution of benefits. 2. Child-in-care benefits: These apply to a spouse who is caring for a child under 16 or a disabled child. Since you're already receiving retirement benefits and your disabled children are adults, this likely wouldn't apply in your situation. I strongly recommend requesting an appointment with a Technical Expert at your local SSA office who specializes in family benefit situations. Regular call center representatives often don't have experience with these complex family benefit scenarios.
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Caleb Stone
•Just to add on to this great info - family maximum is super confusing even for SSA employees! My brother went through something similar and had to speak to THREE different specialists before getting a straight answer. The key is finding someone who actually understands how DAC benefits interact with the family maximum calculation.
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Daniel Price
Your situation sounds incredibly challenging! I've been dealing with SSA for my disabled son for years and STILL get confused. When I read about family maximum rules, my head spins. It seems like nobody at SSA knows how to calculate it properly when there are multiple disabled adult children involved! What if the adoption somehow reduces your current children's benefits? Would you still go through with it? Or maybe delay until you understand the implications better? I'd be paralyzed with worry about making the wrong decision!!! Did they tell you anything about how much your benefits might change? Will your granddaughter qualify for benefits on your record after adoption? So many questions!!!
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William Schwarz
•We're definitely going forward with the adoption regardless of benefit implications - she's our granddaughter and needs a stable home. But I'm worried about how a reduction might affect our ability to provide for everyone's needs. No one at SSA has given me clear numbers yet, which is what's so frustrating!
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Olivia Evans
I spent 35+ years dealing with SSA and their RIDICULOUS family maximum rules. They can't even get it right half the time! When my son got disabled, they reduced my daughter's benefits without even TELLING us until THREE MONTHS LATER and then demanded repayment!!! And good luck getting a straight answer - every rep tells you something different. The system is DESIGNED to confuse people with complex family situations like yours. They should make this stuff simpler for families already dealing with disabilities!!
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Lauren Johnson
•so true! my cousin had similar experience, they cut her benefits without warning then sent overpayment notice. took months to fix!
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Sophia Bennett
Hey there, I went through a similar situation last year with adopting my grandchild while having disabled adult children receiving benefits. Calling SSA was a nightmare - waited hours just to get disconnected repeatedly. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in less than 10 minutes. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I got through, I specifically asked for a Technical Expert who handles complex family benefit situations. Made all the difference! The regular agents simply aren't trained on these complicated family maximum calculations with multiple disabled adult children and adoptions.
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William Schwarz
•Thank you for this suggestion! I've wasted so many hours on hold only to get disconnected. I'll definitely check out that service. Did you find that the Technical Expert was able to give you clearer answers than the regular representatives?
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Aiden Chen
To directly answer your questions based on SSA rules: 1. Adopting your granddaughter could potentially affect your family's benefits due to the Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) rule. The FMB limits the total amount payable to a family on one worker's record. When you adopt your granddaughter, if she's under 18, she becomes eligible for child's benefits on your record. 2. The formula for calculating the FMB is complex but generally ranges from 150% to 180% of the worker's primary insurance amount (PIA). If adding another beneficiary exceeds this maximum, all dependent/survivor benefits (except the worker's) are reduced proportionally. 3. Regarding child-in-care benefits: This only applies if a spouse is caring for a child under 16 or disabled, AND that spouse hasn't yet filed for their own retirement benefits. Since you've already filed for retirement, this wouldn't apply to your situation. 4. The adoption shouldn't affect your daughter who receives SSDI on her own record, nor should it directly affect your daughter receiving SSI (though household composition can affect SSI in some cases). I recommend requesting a written benefit estimate from SSA specifically addressing how the adoption might affect your family's total benefits. Request this calculation in writing so you have documentation.
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William Schwarz
•Thank you for such a detailed explanation! I didn't realize the family maximum was a percentage of the worker's PIA - that makes more sense now. I'll definitely request that written estimate. Is there a specific form I should ask for when requesting this calculation?
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Aiden Chen
There's no specific form to request a family maximum calculation, but you should write a detailed letter to your local SSA office explaining your situation and specifically request a written analysis of how adopting your granddaughter would affect all benefits in your household. Include all beneficiaries' names and Social Security numbers, and clearly state that you're planning to adopt your granddaughter. To your follow-up question about the Technical Expert - yes, Technical Experts (TEs) have specialized training in complex cases. They're several levels above the regular representatives you reach on the general number. When you get through to SSA, specifically request to speak with a Technical Expert who specializes in family benefits and DAC situations. Be prepared that they may need to schedule a callback, as TEs aren't always immediately available.
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Daniel Price
•I tried asking for a Technical Expert once and the rep told me they couldn't transfer me!!! Is there a special way to ask for one??? Do you have to use certain words or something???
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Jade Santiago
To address the comment about requesting a Technical Expert - you need to be persistent but polite. If a representative says they can't transfer you, try saying: "I understand you're trying to help, but my situation involves complex family maximum calculations with multiple disabled adult children and an adoption. These specialized cases require a Technical Expert according to SSA's own procedures. Could you please note in my file that I've requested a TE consultation and have them call me back?" Back to the original question - another thing to consider is that if your granddaughter is eligible for benefits on a parent's record, those might be higher than what she'd receive on your record. SSA will pay whichever is higher, but not both. This is another aspect a TE would need to analyze for your specific situation.
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Caleb Stone
•This is really good advice. My experience with SSA has taught me that using their specific terminology helps a lot. When I mentioned "Technical Expert for complex family maximum calculations" they immediately knew what I needed instead of just saying no.
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William Schwarz
Thank you all for such helpful responses! I've learned more here than from all my calls to SSA. I'm going to: 1. Use that Claimyr service to get through to someone without wasting hours 2. Specifically request a Technical Expert using the suggested language 3. Ask for a written analysis of how the adoption will affect our family's benefits 4. Make sure to request they look at whether benefits on our granddaughter's parent's record might be higher I'll update once I get some answers. It sounds like I should prepare for the possibility that our DAC children's benefits might be reduced somewhat, but at least now I understand why. The family maximum calculation makes more sense now.
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Jade Santiago
•That's an excellent plan. One more suggestion - keep a log of every conversation with SSA (date, time, representative's name, and what was discussed). This documentation can be invaluable if there are any discrepancies later. Also, once you receive the written analysis, if anything is unclear, don't hesitate to schedule an in-person appointment at your local office to review it with a claims specialist. Good luck with the adoption!
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