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I'm completely stressed about my Social Security options after my recent divorce. My divorce was finalized in April 2025 after 32 years together in Wyoming. I have our divorce decree in hand, but I've realized we don't have an actual marriage certificate! We did everything legally (had a ceremony with witnesses, filed joint taxes, owned property together, had kids), but apparently the officiant never filed the paperwork with the county. I only discovered this when gathering documents for Social Security.I keep reading that SSA requires a marriage certificate for claiming spousal benefits after divorce. I'm turning 62 next month and planned to file for divorced spouse benefits based on my ex's record (he's 67 and already collecting). The SSA website specifically mentions needing marriage documentation, and I'm panicking because our entire retirement plan counted on this. Has anyone dealt with this situation? What documentation will SSA actually accept as proof if I don't have the certificate itself?
Just started receiving my early SS retirement benefits this year and I'm totally confused about the earnings test limit. I'm 62 (since February) and filed for early retirement benefits in April. Got my first check in June 2024. Here's what I don't understand - I've been working as a 1099 contractor since January and made about $18,500 before I started receiving benefits. Planning to earn another $10,000 or so for the rest of 2024. With the annual limit being $22,320, will I exceed it? Does SSA only count what I earn AFTER I started getting benefits? Or does everything from January onward count? If I go over, I know they'll withhold some benefits next year, but I need to plan my finances accordingly. Never dealt with this before! Also, curious if most folks hire a tax professional their first year on Social Security or keep doing their own taxes? I've always done my own with tax software but wondering if this complicates things too much.
To answer your question about how they handle the withholding - typically SSA will withhold full monthly payments at the beginning of the year until they've recovered the amount. So if your monthly benefit is $1,500 and they need to withhold $3,090, they might withhold your January and February payments completely, then withhold $90 from March. However, you can request a different withholding schedule if this creates a hardship. You'd need to contact SSA directly to arrange this. As for taxes, while tax software can handle the basic Social Security forms, a tax professional might be worth it the first year, especially with your 1099 contractor situation. They can help you understand the interplay between self-employment taxes, potential benefit taxation, and deductions you might be eligible for as a contractor.
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation two years ago. You're absolutely right to be concerned - the earnings test is one of the most confusing aspects of early Social Security benefits! A few practical tips based on what I learned the hard way: First, keep detailed records of ALL your 1099 income throughout the year, including the dates you received payments. SSA may ask for documentation later. Second, if you're going to exceed the limit (which sounds likely in your case), consider calling SSA now to report your expected annual earnings. This way they can start withholding smaller amounts from each check rather than hitting you with a big adjustment later. One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking my monthly contractor income against the monthly earnings test limit ($1,860 for 2024). Even though the annual test will likely apply in your situation, it helped me stay aware of my earnings patterns. Also, since you're self-employed with 1099 income, don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments - Social Security benefits can push you into higher tax brackets, especially combined with contractor income. Good luck navigating this maze!
My mom recently started a new part-time job and needs to report her earnings to Social Security since she's receiving retirement benefits (she's 66). She's been trying to call SSA for DAYS but keeps getting stuck in 2-3 hour wait queues which is impossible with her work schedule. She doesn't have Facebook or even regular computer access (I'm posting this for her when I visit). Is there any way to update employment information online? I looked at the ssa.gov site but got completely lost trying to find this specific service on their website. Has anyone successfully reported new employment online rather than calling? Where exactly on their site can I find this for her? Really don't want her benefits getting messed up because she couldn't wait on hold forever.
Update: I talked to my mom and she's definitely receiving retirement benefits and is exactly at her FRA (66). Based on everyone's helpful replies, it sounds like she doesn't need to report her new job at all since she's at FRA and there's no earnings limit. I'm still going to help her set up a my Social Security account though, because she's been getting all her SS information through paper mail and it would be easier to have online access. Thank you everyone for the super helpful information!
Glad we could help! Setting up the my Social Security account is definitely worth it regardless. She'll be able to get benefit verification letters, manage direct deposit info, and even get her 1099 forms at tax time. Just make sure you have her cell phone for verification codes (or they can mail codes if needed). Good luck!
Just wanted to add that even though your mom likely doesn't need to report her earnings at FRA, it's still a good idea to keep records of her work history and earnings. Sometimes SSA makes mistakes on their end, and having documentation can help resolve any issues quickly. Also, when you help her set up the my Social Security account, make sure she uses a strong password and enables two-factor authentication if available - there's been an increase in scammers targeting seniors' SSA accounts lately.
I'm a bit confused about my Social Security payment schedule and the COLA increase timing. I started receiving my retirement benefits in May of 2024 when I was 64 (took it early). My January 2025 deposit (which I understand is for December 2024) suddenly went up by about $75. I was expecting the COLA increase wouldn't show up until the February payment (for January 2025). Did anyone else notice this? Is this how it normally works? I thought COLA increases were applied starting with January benefits. I have taxes withheld from my SS checks if that makes any difference. Just want to make sure there wasn't some kind of mistake that might need to be corrected later.
Just to address the question from @profile7 above: If you're just starting Social Security benefits now, you'll still receive the current COLA rate on your benefits going forward. You didn't "miss" the COLA by not being on benefits in December. The COLA is already built into the benefit rates for 2025. Your initial benefit calculation will include the 2025 COLA. For everyone: Remember that the COLA is applied to your primary insurance amount (PIA), which is your basic benefit before reductions for early retirement or increases for delayed retirement. So the actual percentage increase in your check might not be exactly 3.2% if you're receiving reduced or increased benefits.
my mom said back in the day COLA used to be way bigger like 5-8% every year... we really getting the short end now with these tiny increases while everything costs way more smh
Your mom is right that COLAs were much higher in the late 1970s and early 1980s - there was an 11.2% increase in 1981 and a 14.3% increase in 1980! But those were times of much higher inflation. The COLA is designed to match inflation as measured by the CPI-W (Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers). So while the increases may seem small, they're supposed to be keeping pace with inflation.
Yeah it's frustrating but like @Liam said, the COLA is tied to actual inflation rates. The problem is that the CPI-W they use might not fully capture what seniors actually spend money on - like healthcare costs which tend to rise faster than general inflation. There have been proposals to use a different index that better reflects senior spending patterns, but nothing's changed yet. At least we're getting something though - there have been years with 0% COLA when inflation was really low.
I'm trying to figure out how spousal benefits work with my retirement plan. My wife and I are both 59, and I'm the higher earner (about $87,000/year vs her $42,000). I understand there's a difference between spousal and survivor benefits, but I'm confused about how the spousal benefit works if we're both still alive. If my wife claims her own SS at 62, can she also get a spousal benefit on top of that? Or does she just get whichever is higher? Also, if I claim early (like at 62 or 65 instead of my FRA at 67), will that permanently reduce what she can get as a spousal benefit? I keep hearing terms like "top off" benefits but don't understand if that's the same as spousal benefits or something different. Any help sorting this out would be appreciated!
my financial guy told me the best thing is usually for the lower earner to claim at 62 and higher earner wait till 70. that way u get some money flowing in early but also maximize the survivor benefit for later. worked good for us!
As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, this conversation has been incredibly enlightening! I'm 58 and my husband is 61, so we're starting to think seriously about these decisions. One thing I'm still unclear on - if my husband files for his benefits at 62 but I wait until my FRA to claim spousal benefits, will I get the full 50% of his PIA even though he filed early? From Diego's examples, it looks like the answer is yes, but I want to make sure I understand correctly. Also, does anyone know if there are any recent changes to these rules? I feel like every time I think I understand Social Security, someone mentions that the rules changed a few years ago!
Zainab Khalil
That's great news! Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit, and get the name of any representatives you speak with. If you run into any issues, don't hesitate to ask to speak with a technical expert or supervisor who might be more familiar with the secondary evidence rules. Good luck with your application!
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Tyrone Hill
That's wonderful news Miguel! I'm so glad you got this sorted out quickly. Your situation is actually pretty common - many people from older marriages run into this exact issue where the ceremony happened but the paperwork wasn't filed properly. The fact that your divorce decree acknowledges the marriage date and duration is really the key piece here. For anyone else reading this thread with similar concerns, Miguel's experience shows that SSA does have processes in place to handle these situations. The secondary evidence route with forms SSA-754 and supporting documentation like tax returns really does work. Thanks for updating us on how it went!
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GalacticGuardian
@5caa7440d7ba I'm so sorry for your loss. Survivor benefits can be even more straightforward than divorced spouse benefits in terms of documentation requirements. Since your parents were married for so long, you should have plenty of secondary evidence - joint tax returns, insurance policies listing each other as beneficiaries, property deeds, etc. The SSA tends to be more accommodating with survivor benefits because they understand families are dealing with grief on top of paperwork issues. Make sure to bring your father's death certificate along with any evidence of the marriage relationship. The processing time can vary, but survivor benefits often get prioritized. Don't hesitate to mention that your mom needs these benefits to cover living expenses - they sometimes expedite cases involving financial hardship.
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Amina Diallo
@5caa7440d7ba I'm so sorry for your loss. Survivor benefits can be even more critical than spousal benefits, so I'm glad you found this thread helpful. When I spoke with the SSA rep, she mentioned that once I submit all the documentation (the SSA-754 form, tax returns, divorce decree, etc.), the processing time is typically 2-3 months for cases involving secondary evidence. However, she emphasized that having strong supporting documentation like long-term tax returns showing joint filing can sometimes speed things up. For survivor benefits, you'll want to bring your dad's death certificate along with any documents showing your parents lived as a married couple - joint bank accounts, insurance policies listing each other as beneficiaries, property deeds, etc. The key is painting a clear picture that they had a recognized marital relationship. I'd definitely recommend calling ahead or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned to get connected with a knowledgeable representative who can walk you through exactly what documentation they'll need for your specific situation.
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