Can my husband claim survivor benefits on my Social Security record if I die before applying at age 70?
Hi everyone, I'm trying to make sure our Social Security claiming strategy is sound for the long term. My husband started collecting his Social Security benefits last year (he's 68 and past his FRA). I'm planning to delay my benefits until I reach 70 to maximize my monthly amount. But I realized I don't know what happens if I die before I actually claim my benefits at 70. Would my husband still be eligible to receive survivor benefits based on my work record in that case? We've been married for over 40 years, and I've actually been the higher earner throughout our careers. I want to make sure he won't lose out on the larger benefit if something happens to me before I officially file. Thanks for any insights!
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Chloe Boulanger
Yes, your husband would absolutely be eligible for survivor benefits based on your record even if you die before claiming. The SSA will calculate what your benefit would have been at the time of your death - including all delayed retirement credits you earned up to that point. This is sometimes called the "ghost benefit" or "deemed filing" for survivors. As the surviving spouse of a 40-year marriage, he'd receive 100% of what you would have received when you died, assuming it's higher than his own benefit.
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Noah Ali
•Thank you SO much for that clear explanation! I was really worried that all those delayed retirement credits might be lost. Good to know about this "ghost benefit" concept - I've never heard that term before.
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James Martinez
My mom just went through this EXACT situation!! My dad was waiting till 70 but died at 68 and never filed. SSA was a NIGHTMARE to deal with, took almost 4 months to get her survivor benefits sorted out, they kept saying he never applied so there was no benefit!!! We had to talk to like 6 different people and finally a supervisor figured it out. Just warning you that while yes it SHOULD work like the other person said, be prepared for problems if this actually happens!!!!
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Noah Ali
•Oh no, that sounds incredibly frustrating! I'm so sorry your mom had to deal with that on top of losing your dad. Thanks for the heads-up that there might be administrative complications. I'll make sure we have all our documentation organized just in case.
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Olivia Harris
u should both just take benefits now, why wait? gov could change rules anytime and the $ now is better than promises later, just my 2 cents
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Chloe Boulanger
•Actually, waiting until 70 increases her benefit by 8% per year past FRA, which is a guaranteed return you can't find anywhere else. For a higher-earning spouse, this is often the optimal strategy since it maximizes not only her lifetime benefit but potentially the survivor benefit as well. The rules about delayed retirement credits have been stable for decades.
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Alexander Zeus
I was worried about the same thing when my sister died before claiming! She was waiting until 70 but passed at 67. Her husband did get survivor benefits based on her record, but one thing to keep in mind - there was a lot of paperwork. Make sure your husband knows where all your earnings records are kept, your SSN, and has copies of your marriage certificate and birth certificate. Also have copies of your tax returns for the last few years. He'll need all of this when applying for survivor benefits. The SSA was helpful but they kept asking for more documentation.
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Noah Ali
•Thank you for sharing your sister's experience, though I'm very sorry for your loss. That's excellent advice about the documentation. I'll put together a folder with all those documents and make sure my husband knows where everything is kept.
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Alicia Stern
My husband and I did the same thing! He took his at 66 and I waited. Trust me, those calls to Social Security were AWFUL. Spent 3 hours on hold last month just trying to ask a question about my application.
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Gabriel Graham
•I used this service called Claimyr last time I needed to reach SSA and it worked great. Normally you wait hours but they got me connected to a rep in about 15 minutes. Their site is claimyr.com and they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU that shows how it works. Saved me a ton of frustration when I was dealing with my retirement application questions.
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Drake
One important technical detail to understand: if you die before claiming, your husband would receive what's called the "RIB-LIM" benefit. This is essentially what your age-70 benefit would have been, reduced if you die before reaching 70 (you only get DRCs up to your month of death). Because you've been married over 9 months and your husband is already at FRA, he would get 100% of this amount. The advantage of your strategy is that by waiting, you're potentially leaving him with a much larger survivor benefit than he'd get otherwise. It's generally an excellent approach when the higher earner delays as long as possible.
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Olivia Harris
•whats a RIB-LIM? never heard of that before
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Drake
•RIB-LIM refers to the Retirement Insurance Benefit-Limited amount. It's SSA's internal term for calculating survivor benefits when someone dies before claiming their own retirement benefits. It essentially means the survivor gets the larger of: (1) what the deceased would have received if they had filed for benefits on the date of death, or (2) 82.5% of the deceased's primary insurance amount. It's a technical term most people don't encounter unless dealing with this specific situation.
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James Martinez
I want to add - if either of you have been married before, this can get SUPER complicated! My uncle thought he'd get survivor benefits from his second wife but turns out his first marriage caused problems with the claim. Just make sure neither of you have any ex-spouses who might also be eligible for benefits on your records!!
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Noah Ali
•Thankfully this isn't an issue for us - we've only been married to each other. But that's a really good point for others who might have previous marriages to consider!
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Olivia Harris
this reminds me i need to figure out my own ss stuff, just turned 62 last month and got that packet in the mail but havent opened it yet lol
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Chloe Boulanger
•You should definitely open that packet! It contains your benefit estimates at different claiming ages. Generally, unless you have health issues or really need the money now, waiting past 62 will give you a larger monthly amount - about 8% more for each year you delay, up to age 70.
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Noah Ali
Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses! I feel much better knowing that our strategy is sound. I'll make sure to organize all our documentation in case something happens to me before I file at 70. I appreciate all your insights and personal experiences - this community is wonderful.
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Alexander Zeus
•You're very welcome! It's always good to plan ahead. My sister's husband was so grateful they had discussed their Social Security strategy before she passed - it made a difficult time a little easier when at least the financial part was clearer.
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