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Will my husband get my higher Social Security benefit immediately if I die before reaching retirement age?

My situation is causing me some anxiety about my husband's future. He's 65 and started collecting Social Security this year (a bit before his FRA of 66 and 10 months). I'm 58 and the higher earner in our marriage - my estimated benefit at FRA would be about 65% more than what he's receiving now. We've been discussing our financial contingency plans, and a worrying question came up: if something happened to me before I reach retirement age, would my husband be eligible to receive survivor benefits based on my earnings record immediately? Or would he have to wait until I would have reached retirement age (62 or my FRA)? We've been trying to figure this out but getting conflicting information. Does anyone know how survivor benefits work in this specific situation?

Zainab Ahmed

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Your husband doesn't need to wait! If you were to pass away (though I hope you have many healthy years ahead), your husband would be eligible for survivor benefits based on your earnings record immediately, regardless of whether you had started collecting your own benefits yet. Because he's already over 60 (the minimum age for survivor benefits), he could apply right away. The amount would be based on what you would have received at your FRA, though it might be reduced since he took his own benefits early. There's something called the RIB-LIM rule that might apply in his case that could affect the calculation, but the key point is that he wouldn't have to wait until you would have been eligible.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thank you so much for this information! That's a relief to hear. Could you explain a bit more about this RIB-LIM rule? Is that something that would reduce what he'd receive as my survivor?

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when my sister's husband died at 59 (she was 63), she got his benefits right away even tho he hadn't started SS yet. SSA looks at what the deceased would have gotten at FRA i think. but theres a lot of paperwork involved!!

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Miguel Diaz

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Thanks for sharing your sister's experience. It's helpful to hear from someone who's been through something similar. Did she find the process difficult to navigate?

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AstroAlpha

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You've received good information already, but let me clarify a few technical points that might be relevant to your specific situation: 1. Survivor benefits in your case would be based on your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount you would receive at your full retirement age. 2. The RIB-LIM rule (Retirement Insurance Benefit Limitation) mentioned earlier means that when your husband switches to survivor benefits, his payment will be limited if he took his own retirement benefits early. The reduction is based on the higher of either: the reduced retirement benefit he was receiving, or the reduced widow's benefit amount. 3. Since your husband took his benefits early, he'll face a permanent reduction to his survivor benefit - approximately 0.5% for each month before his FRA that he claimed his own benefits. 4. Because your benefit would be 65% higher than his, even with the RIB-LIM reduction, he would likely see a significant increase in monthly payments as a survivor. I'd recommend he speak with an SSA representative to get an exact calculation based on both your earnings records.

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Yara Khoury

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This RIB-LIM thing is SO complicated! I've been trying to figure it out for my own situation for weeks. Has anyone actually gotten a straight answer from SSA about how exactly it's calculated???

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Keisha Taylor

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Amina Bah

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My dad died when he was 56 and mom was 61, and she got his benefits right away. She had to take his death certificate to the SSA office though, they don't just automatically know these things. Also they don't make it retroactive very far back, so don't wait too long if the worst happens.

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Miguel Diaz

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I'm sorry about your dad. Thank you for mentioning the documentation needed and the timing issue - that's really important to know.

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Yara Khoury

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just to add more confusion to this whole mess the amount ur husband would get also depends on if you were insured for SS or not. I think u need 40 credits (10 years of work) to be fully insured. Also they give u a small one-time death benefit payment of like $255 which is ridiculous considering funeral costs these days!!!

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Zainab Ahmed

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You raise a good point about being fully insured. Based on the original post mentioning the wife is the higher earner, it sounds like she's worked enough to be fully insured, but it's an important consideration for others reading this thread. And yes, that $255 death benefit has remained unchanged for decades despite inflation!

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Keisha Taylor

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Something else to consider - if your husband switches to survivor benefits after you pass away, he gives up his own benefit. It's not that he gets both. But since you mentioned your benefit would be about 65% higher than his, it would definitely make sense for him to switch. Also, when applying for survivor benefits, they often require an in-person appointment at SSA, which can take weeks to get scheduled in some areas.

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AstroAlpha

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That's correct about giving up his own benefit, but to clarify: the surviving spouse receives whichever is higher - their own retirement benefit or the survivor benefit. The SSA doesn't combine them. Also worth noting that survivor applications cannot be done online - they must be done by phone or in person, as you mentioned.

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i'm confused about something... if the husband already took SS early doesnt that mean he gets a permanently reduced amount forever? even as a survivor?

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AstroAlpha

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Good question. Taking his own benefits early does create a permanent reduction to those benefits, but survivor benefits are calculated differently. The reduction to survivor benefits is based on the survivor's age when they begin receiving those benefits, not when they took their own retirement. However, the RIB-LIM rule I mentioned earlier creates some complications when someone has already taken reduced retirement benefits and then later switches to survivor benefits. The SSA uses a formula that essentially prevents getting the full survivor amount in some circumstances.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I feel much better knowing my husband would have immediate access to survivor benefits if needed. I'll definitely make sure we keep good records and that he knows about the application process. I think we'll try to schedule an appointment with SSA to get specific calculations based on our actual earnings records too. This community has been so helpful!

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Amina Bah

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Good plan! My mom always says the best thing she did was sit down with someone at SSA a few years before retirement to go over everything. You both should do it. Bring all your questions written down because sometimes you forget stuff when you're there.

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