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Can I file for maximum Social Security at 70 before my birthday while self-employed?

Hey SS experts, I'm reaching a crossroads with a timing question on my retirement benefits. I'll be turning 70 in early February 2025 and I'm still running my own consulting business, which I plan to continue for another 3-5 years at least. I've waited to claim Social Security until 70 to get the maximum delayed retirement credits. About 6 weeks ago, SSA sent me that reminder letter about applying, so I started the online application but stopped halfway because I had some questions about timing. My main concern: I have a phone appointment with SSA scheduled for November 12, 2024. Since that's nearly 3 months BEFORE my 70th birthday, can I actually complete my application during that call? Or do I legally have to wait until after my February birthday passes to finalize everything? I'm worried about this because I'm self-employed (Schedule C filer) and will continue working. Does this complicate things with the application timing? I definitely don't want to mess up and somehow reduce my benefit by filing at the wrong time. Really appreciate any insights from those who've navigated this situation!

make sure u bring up retroactive benefits in ur call!!!! SSA doesnt always tell u about this unless u ask. if u wait til 70 u can actually get up to 6 months of retroactive benefits if u want them

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This is incorrect information. While retroactive benefits are available for up to 6 months for those who file after Full Retirement Age, claiming retroactive benefits when filing at age 70 would actually reduce your monthly benefit amount. This is because taking retroactive benefits means you're essentially filing earlier than age 70, which means fewer delayed retirement credits. If the goal is to maximize the monthly benefit amount (which appears to be OP's intention), then requesting retroactive benefits would be counterproductive.

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Just wanted to add that you should also ask the SSA representative during your November call to confirm your earnings record is complete and accurate. Since you're self-employed, sometimes there can be delays in reporting that might affect your benefit calculation. They can pull up your earnings history during the call and verify everything looks correct for maximizing your age 70 benefit. Better to catch any issues now rather than after you start receiving payments!

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Can I switch from my own Social Security at 62 to husband's 50% spousal benefit at FRA?

I'm turning 62 next month and planning to claim my Social Security early because I could really use the extra money now. My benefit at 62 will be about $1,450/month (reduced from my full amount of $2,070). My husband is 66 and already collecting his retirement benefits of $3,100/month. Someone at work told me I could take my own benefit early, then when I reach my full retirement age (67), I could switch to claiming 50% of my husband's benefit instead if that would be higher. Is this actually possible? I don't want to lock myself into a permanently reduced benefit if I have better options later. Has anyone successfully done this kind of switch?

the whole social security system is designed to confuse people so they take benefits early and get less money lol

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While the system is certainly complex, the reduction in benefits for early filing is actually actuarially neutral over an average lifespan. The system is designed so that, on average, people receive approximately the same total lifetime benefits regardless of when they start claiming. However, individual circumstances vary widely, which is why personalized analysis is so important.

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Have you considered just waiting until your FRA to file? If you can manage financially, that would give you the full $2,070 per month, which is significantly more than the reduced $1,450. Plus, if you need to claim spousal benefits later (like if your husband passes away), you wouldn't have the early filing reduction affecting those benefits. Just something to consider if it's financially feasible for you.

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I've thought about waiting, but honestly, I have some health issues and my family doesn't tend to live into their 80s. Plus, I could really use the money now to help my daughter who's going through a divorce. It's such a hard decision!

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I completely understand considering your health and family history in this decision. That's exactly the kind of personal factor that makes Social Security planning so individual. If you do decide to file at 62, just make sure you understand that you'll be locked into that reduced amount. But given your circumstances, having the guaranteed income now might be more valuable than the higher amount later. Have you calculated the break-even point? That might help you feel more confident about your decision either way.

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Spousal Social Security benefits - what questions to ask at my appointment?

I have an appointment at my local Social Security office next Tuesday to discuss possibly getting benefits based on my husband's work record. We've been married for 28 years, and he's been receiving his retirement benefits for almost 3 years now (he's 67). I'm turning 62 next month and trying to figure out if I should file for benefits on my own record or if I can get more from his. I worked part-time for many years while raising our kids, so my earnings were pretty low. What specific questions should I ask at this appointment to make sure I understand all my options? I'm especially confused about whether I can claim spousal benefits now and switch to my own later when I reach full retirement age. Any advice from folks who've been through this process?

One more important thing to consider - taxation of benefits. If you and your husband have other income (investments, pensions, etc.), up to 85% of your Social Security benefits could be taxable. Ask how taking benefits at different ages might affect your overall tax situation. Also, since you mentioned potentially going back to work or working more hours, ask how that would impact not just the earnings test but also the taxation of your benefits. Sometimes earning a bit more can push your combined income into a range where more of your Social Security becomes taxable. Finally, bring a notepad and pen to write everything down. The information can be overwhelming, and it's easy to forget important details. Some offices won't let you record the conversation, so taking good notes is essential.

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I hadn't thought about the tax implications at all. We do have some investment income and my husband has a small pension, so this is definitely something I need to ask about. And good suggestion about taking notes - I'll bring a notepad with my questions all written out too. Thank you!

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Just wanted to add a couple more things that helped me when I had my appointment last year: 1. Ask them to explain the "file and suspend" rules - this strategy was mostly eliminated in 2016, but understanding why can help you better grasp your current options. 2. If you have any government pension from work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes (like some teaching or state jobs), ask about the Government Pension Offset (GPO) - it can reduce spousal benefits. 3. Request a written summary of your options before you leave. Don't feel pressured to make a decision on the spot - you can always come back or call later. 4. Ask about Medicare enrollment too since you're turning 62. Even if you don't take Social Security benefits right away, you'll need to think about Medicare when you turn 65. The appointment can feel overwhelming with so much information, but having all these questions prepared will really help you make the best decision for your situation. Good luck!

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Social Security spousal benefits at FRA when husband claims early at 62 - will I get reduced amount?

Hi everyone, I'm trying to plan our retirement strategy and I'm confused about spousal benefits. My husband is planning to file for his Social Security at 62 (next year) because of some health concerns. I'm 3 years younger than him and was hoping to wait until my Full Retirement Age (67) to claim. I've been researching online and getting conflicting information. Some websites say that when I claim at my FRA, I should get 50% of his 'full' benefit amount (what he would have gotten at his FRA), while others suggest I'll only get 50% of his reduced benefit (what he actually receives after claiming early). This makes a huge difference in our planning! His estimated full benefit at FRA would have been around $2,900, but taking it at 62 reduces it to about $2,030. So am I looking at potentially $1,450 (half his FRA amount) or only $1,015 (half what he actually gets) when I claim? Can someone who understands these spousal benefit rules please clarify? Would I be better off taking my own benefit instead? Mine would be about $1,320 at my FRA based on my work history.

To summarize the accurate information in this thread: 1. When you claim spousal benefits at your Full Retirement Age, you'll receive 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit he would receive at his FRA regardless of when he actually claimed. 2. Your husband's decision to claim early at 62 reduces HIS benefit by approximately 30%, but it does NOT affect the calculation of YOUR spousal benefit (as long as you wait until your FRA). 3. If YOU claim spousal benefits before YOUR FRA, then YOUR spousal benefit would be permanently reduced. 4. You'll receive either your own retirement benefit or your spousal benefit, whichever is higher - not both. 5. Your own retirement benefit can increase with delayed retirement credits if you wait past FRA, but spousal benefits do not increase after FRA. This is a perfect example of why personalized planning is so important with Social Security - the rules can be complex but understanding them can significantly impact your lifetime benefits.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! It really helps to see all the key points laid out like this. Based on everyone's helpful responses, I'm feeling much more confident about our plan. I'll wait until my FRA to claim the spousal benefit since it will be higher than my own benefit.

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help others in similar situations. My parents went through this exact scenario about 5 years ago. Dad claimed at 62 due to health issues, and Mom was worried she'd get a reduced spousal benefit when she reached her FRA. The key thing that helped them was getting everything in writing from SSA. When Mom applied for spousal benefits at her FRA, she brought documentation showing Dad's estimated benefit at HIS full retirement age (his PIA), not what he was actually receiving. This made the process much smoother and ensured she got the correct amount - 50% of his PIA as everyone here has explained. One tip: keep copies of your husband's Social Security statements that show his estimated full retirement age benefit. It can be helpful documentation when you apply for spousal benefits later. The SSA should have this information, but having your own records can speed things up. Also wanted to echo what others said about the application process - definitely follow up to make sure you're getting the right amount. The system is complex and mistakes do happen.

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Social Security earnings record showing zero income for 2024 - normal delay or reporting issue?

I just checked my Social Security earnings record online and noticed my 2024 earnings are showing up as $0. This is definitely wrong since I worked full-time at the same company all year and earned around $73,000. I've never had this issue before - my previous years all show correct amounts. Is this just because it's only February 2025 and the system hasn't updated yet? Or should I be worried something went wrong with my employer's W-2 reporting? I don't want to discover years from now that I'm missing a year of credits toward my retirement benefit calculation. Has anyone else noticed this with their 2024 earnings?

by the way my brother had this happen last year and his still didnt show up in april so he had to call them. turns out his employer messed up his ssn on the forms! check with your hr department first if u still dont see it in april

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Thanks for sharing that - definitely a good reminder to follow up if things don't update properly!

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I went through this exact same situation last year! Like others mentioned, it's completely normal for there to be a delay. What helped ease my anxiety was setting a calendar reminder for mid-April to check again. That way I wasn't constantly worrying about it but also wouldn't forget to follow up if needed. The waiting is definitely nerve-wracking when you're used to seeing your earnings update promptly, but the system just needs time to process everything from millions of employers across the country.

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