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My wife (66) just started getting her SS retirement benefits last month, and we're a bit confused about the withholding situation. Today she received a letter from SSA asking about federal tax withholdings for her benefits. We don't want to get hit with a huge tax bill next April, but also don't want to withhold too much. We have some pension income and I'm still working part-time ($32,000/yr). Her monthly benefit is about $2,480. What's a reasonable percentage to have withheld? 10%? 15%? Anyone have experience with this? First-time recipients here and trying to get this right from the start!
Hi everyone, I've been navigating a confusing situation with my kids' Social Security benefits. My wife started collecting her retirement benefits about 8 months ago, and our twins (age 12) began receiving auxiliary benefits on her record. I'm turning 65 next month and planning to file for my own retirement. After using the benefit calculators, it looks like my PIA is about $875 higher than my wife's, which means the kids' auxiliary benefits would be significantly more if they drew from my record instead of hers. I understand they can't collect from both of us simultaneously, but can we switch them from her record to mine once I start receiving? The SSA website isn't clear on this situation. Has anyone dealt with something similar or know the process for changing which parent's record the children draw benefits from? Thanks in advance for any guidance!
Something else to consider - check if you're at full retirement age (FRA) when you file. If you're filing early, your benefit is reduced, which also reduces what your children can receive. If you can wait until your FRA (probably 66 and some months for you), the kids would get the maximum 50% of your PIA. My husband waited until his FRA specifically for this reason, even though he wanted to retire earlier.
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who works in benefits administration (though not SSA). When you file for your retirement benefits, make sure to explicitly ask the representative to review which parent's record would be more advantageous for your children. Don't assume they'll automatically check this - you need to specifically request it. Also, bring a copy of your wife's award letter showing her current benefit amount and the kids' auxiliary amounts. This will help the SSA worker calculate the comparison more quickly. One last tip: if you're filing online, there should be a section asking about dependents - make sure to indicate that your children are already receiving benefits on another record so the system flags this for manual review.
I'm still reeling from what happened when I applied for Social Security last month. My wife started collecting her retirement benefits about 6 months ago (she was the higher earner). Our adult son with severe autism was receiving SSI, but as soon as my wife filed, Social Security automatically transferred him to SSDI as a Disabled Adult Child (DAC) under her record. Nobody warned us this would happen! Here's where it gets worse - I worked sporadically over the years as I was our son's primary caregiver. I always thought I'd get my small retirement benefit PLUS a spousal benefit to supplement since my wife earned so much more. Well, guess what? Our son's DAC benefit basically took what would have been my spousal portion. I only qualify for my own tiny benefit ($780/month) and NOTHING from my wife's record. Now we're stuck in this weird situation where our son receives a higher benefit ($1,950/month), but it can ONLY be used for him, and he still has the $2,000 resource limit we have to monitor constantly. We have to spend down his money each month while we're struggling. Our retirement projections are completely destroyed. We assumed we'd have my benefit plus spousal supplement PLUS his SSI. Instead, we have just my small benefit and his DAC money that can't be used for household expenses. I doubt many couples are in this exact situation, but if you have a disabled adult child and are planning retirement, PLEASE look into this before filing! The family maximum is a real thing and Adult Disabled Children can eat up benefits you thought would be yours.
anyone know if this affects retirement benefits differently than disability? my husband is on SSDI and we have a disabled son who gets benefits as a minor child dependent right now, but I was planning to apply for my retirement next year and now im worried about how this all works
Yes, this works differently when SSDI is involved versus retirement. The family maximum still applies, but the calculation is different for SSDI. Additionally, when your son turns 18, he'll need to apply for benefits as an adult disabled child if his disability began before age 22. I strongly recommend scheduling a benefit planning session specifically about this transition before you file for retirement. Many Area Agencies on Aging offer free SHIP counseling (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) that includes Social Security benefit planning.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this situation. As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, this is incredibly eye-opening and frankly terrifying. The fact that SSA doesn't proactively explain how these family maximum rules work before people file seems like a massive systemic failure. Your story is a perfect example of why we need better benefit counseling services. It's not fair that families have to discover these complex interactions AFTER they've already made irreversible decisions that affect their entire financial future. For what it's worth, your post might save other families from making the same mistake. Have you considered reaching out to your local representatives about this? The lack of proper advance planning guidance from SSA seems like something that needs policy attention, especially given how common these situations are becoming as more families care for adult disabled children. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's helping educate the rest of us about these hidden pitfalls in the system.
I'm about to turn 70 next month and planning to finally claim my Social Security retirement benefits. I've been holding off to maximize my monthly amount, but I'm wondering about my options regarding my ex-husband's benefits in the future.My situation: I was married for almost 27 years before divorcing about 12 years ago. My ex is still alive (76) and already collecting his Social Security. I know his benefit amount is significantly higher than mine will be (probably $1,200+ more per month based on our earnings histories).My question is: If my ex-husband passes away in the future, would I be eligible to switch from my own retirement benefit to his higher survivor benefit as his ex-spouse? And if I am eligible, do I need to mention anything about this possibility when I apply for my own benefits next month?I've tried reading about this on the SSA website but got confused about whether the rules for ex-spouse survivor benefits are different from regular survivor benefits. Any insights would be appreciated!
omg really?? i had no idea! i started mine at 66 and 2 months which was my FRA. wish id known this before!
This thread has been really helpful! I'm in a similar situation - divorced after 22 years, ex is 3 years older and already collecting. One thing I wanted to add that might be useful for Carmen and others: you can actually create a my Social Security account online and periodically check your benefit estimates. While it won't tell you about your ex's status, it can help you stay on top of your own benefit amounts and any changes. Also, some people maintain very loose contact with their ex's family members (like siblings or adult children) on social media - not for personal reasons, but just so they might hear about major life events. It's a delicate balance, but it could be one way to eventually learn about a passing without having to actively search obituaries regularly.
I'm trying to navigate all the Social Security paperwork for my retirement next year and I'm completely lost with all these acronyms! WEP, FRA, PIA, COLA... it's like reading a foreign language! The SSA website explains some but not all of them, and the rep I finally reached just used even MORE acronyms I didn't understand (something about DRCs and CIC??). Is there a comprehensive list or glossary somewhere that explains ALL these SS terms in plain English? I feel like I need to learn a whole new vocabulary just to understand my own benefits.
As someone who just went through this same acronym nightmare last year, I feel your pain! One thing that really helped me was creating my own "cheat sheet" as I learned each term. Here are a few more you might encounter that haven't been mentioned yet: • BEND POINTS - Income thresholds used in the PIA calculation formula • TWWIIA - Ticket to Work and Work Incentives Improvement Act (affects disability benefits) • SGA - Substantial Gainful Activity (earnings limit for disability) • OASDI - Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (the official name for Social Security) • POMS - Program Operations Manual System (SSA's internal procedures manual) Pro tip: When you talk to SSA reps, don't be afraid to ask them to explain any acronym they use. I started doing this and found most agents are actually happy to clarify once you ask directly. Also, keep a notebook during calls - you'll be surprised how often the same terms come up! The learning curve is steep but once you get the hang of the key terms, everything else starts making more sense. You've got this!
One thing that helped me tremendously was finding out about the Social Security Statement online - you can create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov and it actually shows your benefit estimate with explanations that use fewer acronyms! It also has a section that shows if WEP or GPO might affect you. Another tip: many local libraries have AARP tax volunteers during tax season who are trained on Social Security basics and can help translate the government-speak into plain English. I met with one last February and she walked me through my statement and explained what all the numbers meant. Also, if you're dealing with WEP as a teacher, check if your state has a Teacher Retirement System website - many of them have Social Security coordinators who specialize in explaining how your pension interacts with SS benefits. They speak "teacher" instead of "government bureaucrat" which makes a huge difference! Don't give up - I felt completely overwhelmed at first too, but once you understand your specific situation, you don't need to know ALL the acronyms, just the ones that apply to you.
This is such great advice! I had no idea about the AARP volunteers at libraries - that sounds like exactly what I need. Someone who can sit down with me and go through my actual statement would be so much better than trying to figure it out alone. I'm definitely going to look into the Teacher Retirement System website too since I'm in the same boat with the pension/SS interaction. It's reassuring to hear from someone who felt as overwhelmed as I do right now but made it through to the other side. Thank you for taking the time to share these practical tips!
Emma Anderson
I REALLY wish the SSA would update their systems to allow us to change withholding percentages online instead of having to mail in paper forms every time. It's ridiculous that in 2025 we're still dealing with such outdated processes for something as simple as tax withholding. My Medicare withholding I can adjust online, but not SS??
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Natasha Kuznetsova
preach!! the whole system feels like its stuck in 1985 sometimes!!
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MidnightRider
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I'd recommend starting with 12% and then monitoring your quarterly estimated tax payments. What really helped us was using the IRS withholding calculator online - it takes into account all your income sources and gives you a pretty accurate estimate. Just plug in your wife's annual SS benefits ($2,480 x 12 = $29,760), your part-time income, pension amounts, and any other income. The calculator will tell you exactly how much total tax you should have withheld for the year. Then you can figure out what percentage of her SS benefits needs to be withheld to hit that target. We found 12% worked perfectly for our situation, but everyone's different depending on their total income and deductions.
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