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The REAL problem is that the SSA's systems are outdated and the different offices don't communicate. I've had THREE different answers from THREE different representatives about the same question. Your best bet is to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Write down who you talked to today, the time, what they told you, and any confirmation numbers. Trust me, when they inevitably mess something up, you'll need this information to fight them!!!

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While there can certainly be inconsistencies across offices, most representatives are trying their best with extremely high workloads. But your advice about documentation is spot-on. Always keep records of all communications, including dates, names, and what was discussed. This is important for any government benefit application.

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I went through this exact situation when I applied for survivor benefits at 60. The protective filing date is crucial - it saved me about $1,800 in back benefits! When you call SSA, they should give you what's called a "receipt notice" or confirmation that you initiated contact on today's date. If you didn't get one, I'd recommend calling back tomorrow and specifically asking for documentation of your protective filing date from today's call. Also, during your October 31st appointment, bring up the protective filing date first thing - don't wait for them to mention it. Some reps are great about this, others need reminding. The system works, but you have to be proactive about protecting your rights.

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I didn't receive any kind of receipt notice when I called today, so I think I should definitely call back tomorrow to get that documentation. Did you have to do anything special to get the receipt notice, or did they automatically provide it when you mentioned wanting documentation of your protective filing date? I want to make sure I ask for the right thing when I call back.

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After you apply, you can appeal if you disagree with their determination. Many people don't realize there's a formal appeals process. The first level is called "Reconsideration" and must be filed within 60 days of receiving their decision. About 15-20% of reconsiderations result in a changed decision, so it's worth trying if you think they made an error in the calculation.

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I appreciate knowing about the appeals process. I'm going to go ahead and apply for him just to find out for sure. Thanks to everyone for all this helpful information!

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I'm sorry for your family's loss. As someone new to navigating these benefits, I found this thread incredibly helpful. The GPO rules are so complex and it sounds like even with the offset, it's still worth applying since every situation can be different. I had no idea about the time limits for retroactive benefits or the appeals process. Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences - it really helps those of us trying to figure out this system for our elderly parents. Wishing your father the best outcome with his application!

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Thank you for your kind words! This community has been such a valuable resource. I'm also relatively new to navigating these benefits for elderly family members, and threads like this really help demystify the process. It's encouraging to see people sharing their real experiences rather than just the confusing official documentation. Best of luck to you as well if you're dealing with similar situations for your family!

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As someone who works in disability advocacy, I want to emphasize how important this thread is! The confusion between SSDI and SSI is probably the #1 misconception I encounter with clients. Your brother is absolutely in the clear to accept his inheritance without any impact on his SSDI benefits or Medicare coverage. I've helped hundreds of SSDI recipients navigate similar situations, and the key thing to remember is that SSDI is an insurance program you've paid into through your work history - it's your earned benefit. The Social Security Administration doesn't care about your assets when you're on SSDI, only about whether you're attempting to return to work above the substantial gainful activity threshold. One practical tip: your brother might want to keep good records of where the inheritance came from (copy of the will, documentation from the estate) just for his own tax records, since inheritances can sometimes affect tax filings even though they don't affect SSDI benefits. But that's purely a tax consideration, not a Social Security one. It's wonderful that your family is looking out for each other during what must be a difficult time with both the loss of your uncle and managing your brother's MS progression. He can accept this gift from your uncle with complete peace of mind!

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Thank you so much for this professional perspective! As someone working in disability advocacy, your reassurance really means a lot. It's comforting to know that professionals like you are helping people navigate these confusing systems. Your point about keeping documentation for tax purposes is really practical advice that I hadn't thought of. My brother will definitely want to keep those estate records organized. It really has been a difficult time dealing with both the grief of losing our uncle and worrying about how this might affect my brother's benefits that he depends on for his medical care. Knowing he can accept this final gift from our uncle without any stress about his SSDI makes this whole situation feel much more manageable. Thank you for the work you do helping people understand these systems!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now, so this thread couldn't have come at a better time! My mom has been on SSDI for about 3 years due to severe fibromyalgia, and we just found out she's inheriting around $25,000 from her sister's estate. I was panicking thinking this might mess up her benefits, but reading everyone's experiences here is such a huge relief. The distinction between SSDI and SSI really needs to be explained better by Social Security - I can't believe how many people get confused by this (myself included!). It makes total sense now that SSDI is based on what you've paid in through working, not your current financial situation. One question for those who've been through this - did any of you notify your local Social Security office anyway, just as a courtesy? I know from what @Yuki Yamamoto said that it's not required, but I'm wondering if anyone chose to give them a heads up just to avoid any potential issues down the road.

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share what I learned from my own Social Security experience. The confusion about "excess benefits" is so common! When I was researching this for my own situation, I found it helpful to think of Social Security spousal benefits as a safety net rather than a bonus. They're designed to ensure that a spouse receives at least 50% of the higher earner's benefit, but only if their own benefit is lower than that amount. Since your benefit ($2,450) is already much higher than half of your husband's benefit, you're essentially "self-insured" and don't need that safety net. The system recognizes you've earned a higher benefit on your own work record. One thing that might help explain your friend's confusion: there used to be more complex claiming strategies available, but most were eliminated by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. People who benefited from those old rules sometimes still talk about them, not realizing they no longer apply to most people. The good news is you're already maximizing your current benefits! And as others mentioned, survivor benefits would be a completely separate calculation if that situation ever arises.

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Welcome to the community! Your "safety net" analogy is really helpful - that's a great way to think about spousal benefits. It makes so much more sense when you frame it as protection for lower-earning spouses rather than some kind of bonus payment. I think that's exactly where my confusion was coming from - I was thinking of it as something additional I might be entitled to rather than a minimum guarantee. Your point about the old claiming strategies being eliminated also explains why there's still so much outdated information floating around. Thank you for sharing your perspective as someone new to the community - sometimes a fresh explanation is exactly what's needed!

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I'm also dealing with Social Security confusion as a newcomer to retirement! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. What strikes me is how many people have gotten conflicting information from SSA representatives - that seems to be a widespread problem. I'm curious about one thing that hasn't been fully addressed: when you say your husband gets $1,970/month, is that his full benefit amount or is he receiving a reduced amount because he claimed before his full retirement age? The reason I ask is that spousal benefits are calculated based on the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the full benefit amount at full retirement age, not necessarily what someone is currently receiving if they claimed early. In your case it probably doesn't matter since your own benefit is so much higher, but it might be worth confirming the exact PIA amount for future planning, especially when thinking about potential survivor benefits down the road. It sounds like you've gotten great advice here from the community - much clearer than what you got from those SSA phone calls! The consensus is definitely correct that there are no "excess spousal benefits" available in your situation.

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I just want to echo what everyone else is saying about calling SSA directly - don't rely on just the remarks section! I had a similar issue with my spouse's application last year where the system locked in an old date. We tried the remarks section approach first and it was completely ignored. What finally worked was calling and speaking to a representative who walked us through the process step by step. They were able to see our saved application on their end and manually override the locked date field. The whole call took about 30 minutes once we got through, and they gave us a confirmation number. One additional tip: if you do get through to someone, ask them to read back the corrected start date to you before ending the call. We learned this the hard way when there was a miscommunication the first time and they entered the wrong month. Having them confirm it verbally saved us from having to call back again. The Monday morning strategy definitely works - we called at 8:05 AM and only waited about 15 minutes. Good luck getting this sorted out!

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This is such valuable advice! The tip about having them read back the corrected date is brilliant - I can totally see how miscommunication could happen and then you'd be stuck with the wrong date again. That would be so frustrating after finally getting through to someone. I'm definitely going to follow this whole process: call Monday at 8 AM, ask them to "clear and replace" the old date, get a confirmation number, and have them read back the new June 2025 start date before hanging up. It's unfortunate that we have to be so careful about every step, but at least there's a clear path to getting this resolved. Thanks for sharing your experience - knowing it only took 30 minutes once you got through gives me hope!

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I'm new to this community but facing a very similar situation! I partially completed my retirement application back in September but had to pause due to some missing documents. Now when I log back in, it's showing September 2024 as my start date, but I actually want to begin benefits in April 2025 when I officially retire. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - it sounds like calling SSA directly is definitely the way to go rather than hoping the online system will handle it correctly. I'm going to try the Monday 8 AM strategy that several people mentioned, and I'll make sure to ask them to "clear and replace" the old date rather than just update it. @Yara, I hope you were able to get your issue resolved! This thread should be required reading for anyone applying for Social Security benefits online. The collective wisdom here is so much more useful than anything I found on the official SSA website.

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