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Just wanted to add my experience as another data point - I was in a similar situation about two years ago when I started doing some freelance work while collecting early retirement benefits. I was nervous about calling SSA because I'd heard horror stories about long wait times, but I finally got through and reported my expected earnings that would put me about $6,000 over the limit. The representative was actually very helpful and explained that they would reduce my monthly benefit by about $200 to account for the overage, which was much more manageable than having to pay back a lump sum later. The adjustment took about 6 weeks to show up in my payments, but they sent me a letter explaining the new amount and why it changed. Definitely worth the hassle of getting through to them - peace of mind is invaluable when dealing with government benefits!

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That's really reassuring to hear about your positive experience! A $200 monthly reduction spread over time sounds so much more manageable than dealing with a surprise debt later. I've been putting off making that call because of all the stories about wait times and getting disconnected, but hearing that the rep was actually helpful gives me hope. Did you have to provide any documentation when you called, or was it just a matter of telling them your expected earnings? I'm planning to call this week and want to make sure I have everything ready.

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When I called, I just needed to provide my Social Security number for verification and then told them my expected annual earnings amount. They didn't ask for any documentation during the call itself - just the estimated total I expected to earn for the year. The representative calculated the overage on the spot and explained how they'd adjust my monthly benefit going forward. They did mention that I should contact them again if my actual earnings end up being significantly different from what I estimated, either higher or lower. One tip: have a pen and paper ready because they'll give you a confirmation number and explain the new benefit amount, and you'll want to write that down for your records!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's also collecting early retirement benefits and considering some part-time work, I've been wondering about the same thing. It's clear from everyone's experiences that being proactive is definitely the way to go. I'm curious though - for those who have gone through the process of reporting expected earnings, do they require you to update them if your actual earnings end up being different from what you initially estimated? Like if you estimated $30,000 but only ended up earning $28,000, or vice versa? I want to make sure I understand the full scope of the reporting requirements before I make any decisions about additional work.

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I went through this exact situation in Connecticut, which also has a waiting period before divorce is final. Social Security definitely uses the date when your divorce became legally final according to state law, not the court appearance date. Since Massachusetts has the 90-day Nisi period and your divorce wasn't final until after that period ended (putting you over 10 years), you should absolutely qualify for ex-spouse benefits. One thing I learned is that different SSA representatives have varying levels of knowledge about state-specific divorce laws, so definitely bring documentation showing both dates clearly. I'd also suggest printing out the relevant section from the Program Operations Manual (POMS GN 00305.135) that others mentioned - it really helps to have the official policy in writing. You're smart to plan this out now before applying. The fact that your ex is already collecting makes the process smoother since there's no waiting period. Good luck with your application!

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Thank you for sharing your Connecticut experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who went through the same situation! I'm definitely feeling more confident about my case now. I'll make sure to print out that POMS section before my appointment. It sounds like having the official policy documentation really makes a difference when dealing with representatives who might not be familiar with state-specific divorce laws. I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and knowledge!

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This is such valuable information for anyone dealing with divorce timing and Social Security benefits! I'm a benefits counselor and see this confusion regularly. The key point everyone has made is absolutely correct - SSA uses the date your divorce became FINAL under your state's law, not the initial court date. For Massachusetts specifically, the 90-day Nisi period means your marriage legally continued until that period ended. This is actually beneficial for people in your situation who are right on the edge of the 10-year requirement. One additional tip: when you apply, ask the representative to document in your file that they verified the marriage duration using the final divorce date per Massachusetts law. This creates a paper trail in case there are any questions later. Also, if you get an initial denial, don't panic - you have appeal rights, and these cases often get overturned on appeal when the proper documentation is reviewed. You're being very smart to research this thoroughly before applying. Having all your documentation ready and understanding the rules puts you in a strong position!

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from a benefits counselor! I really appreciate the tip about asking them to document in my file that they verified the marriage duration using the final divorce date per Massachusetts law. That's exactly the kind of detail I wouldn't have thought to request but could be really important later. It's also good to know that these cases often get overturned on appeal if there's an initial denial - gives me confidence that the system does work correctly when the proper documentation is reviewed. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional expertise!

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As someone who works in the SSA field offices (though I can't give official advice here), I just wanted to add my voice to confirm what everyone has been saying - there is absolutely NO earnings limit once you reach your Full Retirement Age. This is one of the most frequent questions we get, and I see the confusion all the time. The misinformation seems to spread because people mix up different rules or hear outdated information. But the rule is crystal clear: at FRA and beyond, you can earn any amount without any reduction to your retirement benefits. What I find helpful to tell people is that Congress designed it this way specifically to encourage people to keep working if they want to after reaching FRA. There's no penalty because the policy goal is to support people who choose to remain productive in the workforce. @Elijah Knight - you're making a smart move planning this out in advance. Take that promotion with complete confidence! And definitely set up your MySocialSecurity account if you haven't already - it will make the whole process much smoother when you're ready to file.

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Thank you so much for weighing in with your SSA field office experience! It's incredibly reassuring to have someone who works directly with these issues confirm what everyone has been saying. I really appreciate your point about this being intentional policy design to encourage continued work after FRA. That context helps me understand why the rule is so clear-cut - it's not an oversight or loophole, it's exactly how the system was meant to work. As a newcomer trying to understand all these Social Security rules, this entire thread has been invaluable. The consistency of everyone's responses, combined with real-world experiences and now official insight, gives me complete confidence that there truly is no earnings limit after FRA. I'll definitely be setting up my MySocialSecurity account right away. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this discussion - you've turned what seemed like a confusing topic into something I now feel I understand completely!

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This has been such an incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! As someone who's still a few years away from FRA but trying to plan ahead, I really appreciate how everyone has consistently confirmed that there is absolutely NO earnings limit once you reach Full Retirement Age. What strikes me most is how this misinformation seems to spread so easily - like what happened with the original poster hearing conflicting advice from coworkers and family. It's clear that having access to accurate information from people who've actually been through this process (and even someone from SSA field offices!) makes all the difference in planning confidently. The practical tips shared here go way beyond just the basic earnings rule too - things like separate bank accounts for tax tracking, timing salary increases strategically, setting up MySocialSecurity accounts early, and understanding the difference between earnings tests and tax implications. These real-world insights are exactly what you need when making these important decisions. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences. This thread should definitely be saved as a reference for anyone navigating retirement planning while considering continued work after FRA!

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I completely agree! As someone who's also still several years away from FRA, this discussion has been like taking a comprehensive course in Social Security planning. What really stands out to me is how unanimous everyone has been about the core message - there truly is NO earnings limit after FRA. I think the misinformation spreads so easily because Social Security rules can seem complex, and people often share partial information or mix up different aspects of the system. But having multiple perspectives from people who've actually navigated this transition, plus professional advisors and even an SSA employee, really drives home how clear-cut this particular rule is. The practical advice shared here has been invaluable too - I'm definitely going to set up my MySocialSecurity account early and start tracking my earnings record. And the tips about tax planning and timing considerations are exactly the kind of real-world details you don't find in the basic explanations of the rules. This thread is definitely going in my bookmarks as essential reading for retirement planning. Thanks to everyone for creating such a helpful resource for those of us trying to understand how to navigate work and Social Security after FRA!

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I've been working as a benefits specialist for over 15 years and want to emphasize something important that others have touched on - timing is absolutely crucial with SSA dependency cases. The fact that your grandson was living with you and financially dependent on your husband BEFORE he started receiving retirement benefits is key to the dependency provisions under POMS GN 00306.235. When you gather your documentation, make sure to highlight the timeline clearly. You'll want to show that the support relationship was established well before your husband's benefit entitlement date. This distinguishes your case from situations where grandparents try to claim benefits after the fact. Also, don't be discouraged if you encounter initial resistance from SSA staff. These dependency cases for grandchildren are less common, so not every representative is familiar with the specific provisions. If needed, reference POMS GN 00306.235 directly and ask them to review that section. Sometimes having the specific regulation number helps move things along. Best of luck with your case - it sounds like you have a strong foundation with 8 years of guardianship and financial support!

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Thank you so much for this professional insight! Having someone with 15 years of benefits experience confirm what others have shared is incredibly reassuring. You're absolutely right about the timing being crucial - we've had our grandson for 8 years and my husband only started benefits about 2 years ago, so that timeline should work in our favor. I'm definitely going to write down that POMS reference number (GN 00306.235) and bring it with me when I meet with SSA. It's good to know that having the specific regulation can help if I encounter someone who isn't familiar with these provisions. I feel much more prepared and confident about pursuing this now. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise!

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One more tip I'd add is to keep detailed records of all your interactions with SSA throughout this process. Create a simple log with dates, times, names of representatives you spoke with, and what was discussed. This can be really helpful if you need to reference previous conversations or if there are any inconsistencies in the information you receive. Also, consider bringing a trusted friend or family member with you to your in-person appointment - having a second set of ears can be valuable when discussing complex benefit rules. Sometimes they catch important details you might miss while focusing on explaining your situation. The fact that you've been his legal guardians for 8 years and have such strong documentation really puts you in a good position. Wishing you the best of luck with SSA!

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This is such practical advice about keeping detailed records! I never would have thought to bring someone with me to the appointment, but you're absolutely right that having a second person there could help catch important details I might miss. I'm going to start that interaction log right away - dates, names, what was discussed. It sounds like this could be a multi-step process so having everything documented will definitely be helpful. Thank you for the encouragement about our strong position with the 8 years of guardianship and documentation. Everyone in this community has been so incredibly helpful - I feel like I actually have a real plan now instead of just hoping for the best!

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As someone who just went through Medicare enrollment myself, I wanted to add that you should also be prepared for the possibility that even after filing the SSA-44, your first few Medicare premium bills might still reflect the higher IRMAA amount based on your 2023 income. The adjustment can take a few months to process, so you might need to pay the higher amount initially and then receive a refund or credit once they approve your life-changing event form. I'd recommend setting aside some extra money in your budget for those first few months just in case, rather than being caught off guard by a higher-than-expected premium. The good news is that once the adjustment goes through, any overpayments you made will be refunded. Just another thing to factor into your retirement planning timeline!

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That's such an important point about the timing of when the adjustment actually takes effect! I hadn't considered that I might need to pay the higher premiums initially while waiting for the SSA-44 to be processed. Setting aside extra money for those first few months is really smart advice - I'd rather be prepared for higher bills and pleasantly surprised if they're lower than be caught short on cash. Do you remember roughly how long it took for your adjustment to go through and the refund to come? I'm trying to figure out how many months I should budget for the higher amount just to be safe.

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In my case, it took about 3-4 months for the adjustment to be fully processed and reflected in my premium bills. I filed the SSA-44 in February after I retired in January, and didn't see the corrected premium amount until May. The refund for the overpayments came as a credit on my June premium bill. So I'd definitely budget for at least 3-4 months of the higher premium just to be safe! It's frustrating to wait that long, but at least you do get the money back eventually.

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This is such valuable information! I'm in a similar situation planning my retirement and Medicare enrollment, and I had no idea about the SSA-44 form or that Social Security benefits don't count toward IRMAA. Reading through all these responses has been like getting a masterclass in Medicare planning. One question I have - for those who've filed the SSA-44, did you need to provide any specific documentation beyond the retirement letter and final paystub? I'm wondering if there are other forms or proof of income changes that SSA typically requests. Also, has anyone had experience with how they handle the form if you're retiring mid-year versus at year-end? I'm curious if the timing within the year affects how they calculate the adjustment. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this kind of real-world knowledge is so much more helpful than trying to decipher the official SSA website!

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Great questions! When I filed my SSA-44 after retiring mid-year, I included my retirement letter from HR, my final paystub showing my last day worked, and a simple calculation showing my projected income for the rest of that year (which was just my Social Security benefits starting that October). They didn't ask for anything additional beyond that initial documentation. For mid-year retirement, they calculate based on your actual income for the full calendar year, so if you retire in June, they'll count your January-June wages plus your July-December Social Security benefits. This actually worked in my favor because my total annual income ended up being lower than if I had worked the full year, which put me in a lower IRMAA bracket. The key is being accurate with your income projections on the form - if you underestimate and end up with more income than you reported, they might adjust it again later. But overall, mid-year retirement timing can actually be beneficial for IRMAA purposes since you're earning less total income that year. Hope this helps with your planning!

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