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Can I receive SSDI benefits for grandchildren in my custody without adoption? Parents still alive

I became the full-time custodian of my two grandkids (ages 14 and 12) last month after some difficult family circumstances. I'm currently receiving SSDI benefits due to my disability that began about 3 years ago. My question is whether these children can qualify for benefits on my record since I now have full legal custody of them? Or would I need to actually adopt them first? Their biological parents are both still living, though neither is in a position to provide support right now. I've called the SSA office three times but keep getting disconnected. Has anyone navigated this situation successfully? I'm worried about making ends meet with two additional mouths to feed.

I'm new to this community and just wanted to say how grateful I am for all the detailed advice everyone has shared here. I'm in the early stages of a similar situation - recently gained custody of my teenage nephew - and reading through these responses has been incredibly educational. The recurring themes I'm seeing are really helpful: document everything from day one, apply for multiple programs simultaneously rather than waiting, and don't underestimate the value of local advocacy organizations and community support networks. I had no idea about things like kinship care programs, 211 services, or that faith-based organizations often help regardless of religious affiliation. Diego, I hope you're able to get connected with SSA soon using some of the strategies people have mentioned (like that Claimyr service or calling right at 8am). Your situation with the emergency custody change sounds like it should qualify for exceptions to some of the typical requirements based on what others have shared. One question for the group - has anyone had success with getting their state representatives' offices involved when dealing with particularly difficult SSA cases? I've heard that sometimes contacting your congressman's office can help cut through bureaucratic delays, but I'm not sure if that actually works in practice. Thank you all for creating such a supportive and informative discussion. It's reassuring to know there are communities like this where people share practical advice and encouragement for navigating these complex systems!

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Welcome to the community! Your question about contacting state representatives is actually a really good one. I haven't personally used that approach, but I know several people who have had success getting help from their congressman's office when they hit roadblocks with federal agencies like SSA. Most representatives have constituent services staff who specialize in helping people navigate federal bureaucracy. They can't change the rules, but they can sometimes help speed up the process or get you connected with the right person when you're stuck in endless phone loops. It's definitely worth trying if you've exhausted other options. The key things I've learned from this thread that I'm planning to implement in my own situation: start that detailed expense tracking immediately, reach out to local advocacy groups, call 211 to find community resources I didn't know existed, and apply for everything simultaneously rather than waiting to perfectly meet requirements. Diego, I'm also hoping that Claimyr service or the early morning calling strategy helps you get through to someone soon. The fact that so many people here have eventually succeeded gives me hope that persistence really does pay off, even when the system feels impossibly complicated. Thanks everyone for sharing such practical, detailed advice. This thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to navigate government websites!

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Thank you for the information about contacting state representatives - that's definitely something I'll keep in mind if I continue hitting roadblocks. It's good to know that their constituent services staff are specifically there to help with federal agency issues. I'm also planning to implement all those key strategies you mentioned. The expense tracking seems especially important since so many people have emphasized how crucial documentation is for the SSA process. I'm going to set up a simple spreadsheet today to start recording everything. The 211 service is something I'd never heard of before this thread, but it sounds like an amazing resource for finding local programs that aren't well-publicized. I'm definitely calling them tomorrow to see what might be available in my area. It really is reassuring to see how many people have eventually succeeded, even though the process was frustrating and time-consuming for everyone. This thread has given me so much more confidence about navigating this system - having a roadmap from people who've actually been through it is invaluable. Thank you for contributing to such a helpful discussion!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help with the documentation process while you're waiting to get through to SSA. When I was preparing for my own kinship care situation, I created a simple daily log that included not just expenses, but also notes about the children's daily needs - things like "took grandson to doctor appointment," "bought school supplies," "helped with homework for 2 hours." This kind of detailed daily record really helped demonstrate the full scope of care I was providing, beyond just the financial support. The SSA representative told me later that seeing this comprehensive picture of dependency made my case much stronger. Also, I wanted to mention that some local libraries have social services navigators who can help you understand what programs are available in your area and even assist with applications. I had no idea this service existed until a librarian mentioned it when she saw me struggling with paperwork at a computer terminal. Diego, I hope you're able to get through soon using some of the calling strategies people have shared. The Tuesday/Wednesday morning approach has worked well for others, and that Claimyr service several people mentioned might be worth trying if you continue having trouble. Your dedication to these children is admirable, and this community is clearly behind you!

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Thank you for that great tip about keeping a daily care log! I'm also new to navigating this system and hadn't thought about documenting the non-financial aspects of care, but that makes so much sense. Showing the full picture of dependency - not just money spent but time, emotional support, daily care activities - would definitely strengthen a case. The library social services navigator is another resource I never would have thought to look for. It's amazing how many support services exist in our communities that we don't know about until someone points them out. I'm going to check with my local library tomorrow to see if they have anything similar. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful as someone just starting this process. The combination of practical strategies (like the calling times), documentation tips (expense spreadsheets plus daily care logs), and community resources (211, Legal Aid, kinship care programs) gives me a much clearer roadmap than I had before. Diego, I'm also hoping you get through to SSA soon with all these strategies! It's clear from this discussion that persistence really does pay off, and you have a whole community here cheering you on.

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Social Security representative payee vs Medicare authorized person - separate processes?

I'm trying to help my mom with her benefits but I'm confused about the representative payee process. I just became her rep payee for Social Security after her stroke last month, but does that automatically make me her authorized person for Medicare too? Or do I need to set that up separately with Medicare? The field office wasn't clear when I called, and I've been getting conflicting info online. Some sites say it's all under SSA, others say Medicare requires additional paperwork. Anyone navigate this successfully?

Just went through this exact situation with my father-in-law last month. Can confirm what others have said - they are completely separate processes and it's incredibly confusing! The SSA rep payee application was straightforward, but then I had to navigate the Medicare maze separately. One tip that helped me: when you call Medicare, ask to speak with someone specifically about "authorized representative" setup rather than just general Medicare questions. I got transferred around less when I was specific about what I needed. Also keep copies of everything - I had to resubmit the CMS-1696 form twice because they claimed they never received it the first time. The whole system really needs to be streamlined. It's hard enough dealing with a family member's health issues without having to become an expert in government bureaucracy!

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I'm just starting to research this for my elderly mother who recently had a stroke. Reading through all these experiences has been both helpful and overwhelming - it's clear that navigating these separate systems is going to be more complicated than I initially thought! One question I haven't seen addressed: if someone already has power of attorney for healthcare and finances, does that help streamline either the Social Security rep payee process or the Medicare authorization? Or are these government processes completely separate from POA documents too? Also, for those who mentioned using Claimyr to reach Medicare representatives faster - did you find their service worth the cost given how difficult it apparently is to get through to Medicare directly? I'm trying to weigh whether it's worth paying for that service or just dealing with the long hold times. Thanks to everyone who's shared their real-world experiences here. This thread is going to save me so much time and frustration as I work through this process with my mom.

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Can I claim ex-spouse Social Security at 62 then switch to my own benefits at FRA or 70?

I'm trying to figure out my best strategy for maximizing Social Security benefits. Can I apply at 62 to collect benefits based on my ex-spouse's record and then switch to my own benefits when I reach my full retirement age (66 and 10 months) or even wait until 70? We were married for 17 years and I haven't remarried. My ex is 5 years older than me and currently receiving SSDI. I'm assuming his benefits will automatically convert to retirement benefits when he turns 62? I'm currently 59 and trying to plan ahead. I've heard conflicting information about whether this kind of switching strategy still works after the 2015 law changes. Anyone have experience with this?

I'm in a similar situation and went through this research last year. One thing that helped me was using the SSA's online calculators to model different scenarios. You can estimate your benefits at different claiming ages on ssa.gov, which gives you a baseline to compare against the ex-spouse benefit once you get that information from SSA. Also, don't overlook the impact of Medicare timing if you're considering working past 65. If you delay Social Security until 70 but need Medicare at 65, you'll need to enroll in Medicare Part A (which is free) but can delay Part B if you have qualifying employer coverage. This gets complicated fast, so factor healthcare costs into your decision timeline. The "break-even" analysis is crucial here - calculate at what age the higher lifetime benefit from waiting until 70 would outweigh the years of missed payments from claiming earlier. For many people, it's somewhere in their early 80s, but everyone's situation is different.

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One more thing to consider - if your ex-spouse is currently receiving SSDI, you might want to confirm his exact birth date and when his benefits will convert to retirement benefits. The timing could affect your planning since you mentioned he's 5 years older. Also, keep in mind that if he files for early retirement benefits before his FRA (which he can't do while on SSDI, but just for future reference), it could potentially reduce the spousal benefit calculation. Since his SSDI will convert automatically at his FRA without reduction, this shouldn't be an issue in your case, but it's worth understanding how these interactions work when you speak with SSA about your benefit estimates.

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share details about your ex-spouse's benefits due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't necessarily need his exact conversion date to move forward with your planning. When you contact SSA about your potential ex-spousal benefits, they can run calculations based on his current SSDI amount since that will become his retirement benefit at FRA. The key thing is that you were married for 17 years (well over the 10-year minimum) and haven't remarried, so you definitely qualify. I'd suggest calling SSA with whatever information you do have about your ex (full name, approximate age, SSN if you remember it) and let them guide you through what they need to calculate your potential benefit. They deal with these situations regularly and should be able to work with the information available.

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share your ex-spouse's specific benefit information with you due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't actually need to know the exact conversion date to start planning. You can request an estimate of your potential ex-spousal benefits from SSA without them disclosing his personal details. They calculate this based on his earnings record, and the estimate will be the same whether his SSDI converts this year or next year (since SSDI amounts equal the full retirement benefit amount). What matters more for your timeline is your own age and when YOU want to claim benefits. I'd suggest calling SSA (or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier) to get your ex-spousal benefit estimate, then you can plan your strategy from there regardless of his exact conversion timing.

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Social Security retirement benefits vs. SSI - confused about deductions and possible tax surprises

I just turned 66 last month and received my first retirement benefit payment from Social Security. When I applied, the claims representative told me I'd get $2,450 per month "before deductions" - but when I checked my bank account today, the deposit was exactly $2,450! I'm really confused about what these "deductions" are supposed to be. I thought they meant federal tax withholding, Medicare premiums, etc. Now I'm worried I'll get slammed with a huge tax bill next April since nothing seems to be withheld. I have a small pension that already has taxes taken out, but my Social Security will push me into a higher tax bracket. Should I be contacting SS to set up voluntary withholding? Has anyone else dealt with this? I'm clueless about how this all works and don't want any nasty surprises!

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Thank you all so much for the helpful information! I just downloaded the W-4V form and will send it in tomorrow. I'm thinking I'll start with 10% withholding and adjust next year if needed. I'll also check with my tax preparer to see if I should make any quarterly estimated tax payments for this year since I've already received a few months of benefits without withholding. It's frustrating that the SSA representative didn't explain any of this when I applied for benefits. When they say "before deductions" they should really clarify what that means! I suspect I'm not the only newly retired person confused by this.

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You're making a smart move getting this sorted out now. One quick tip: make a copy of your completed W-4V before sending it in, as sometimes these requests can take 1-3 months to process, and occasionally they get lost in the system. If you don't see the withholding start within 90 days, you may need to follow up with a copy of your original request.

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Great advice from everyone here! I went through this exact same situation two years ago. One thing I'd add is that you might want to consider making a quarterly estimated tax payment for Q1 2025 since you've already received a few months of benefits without any withholding. Even once you submit the W-4V, it can take 6-8 weeks to take effect, so you could end up owing quite a bit by year-end. I'd also suggest keeping track of exactly when your withholding starts. In my case, SSA processed my W-4V request but then somehow "forgot" to actually start the withholding for another two months. I only caught it because I was watching my deposit amounts carefully. Don't assume it's working just because you submitted the form! Also, if you have a my Social Security account online, you can usually see your benefit statement there which will show any deductions once they start taking effect.

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Does tax-exempt income under IRS Notice 2014-7 count toward Social Security earnings limit?

I'm turning 63 next month and thinking about claiming my Social Security retirement benefits early. My concern is about the earnings limit since I still work part-time (about 20-25 hours weekly). Here's my situation - a significant portion of my income falls under the IRS Notice 2014-7 tax exemption (I provide care for a family member through a Medicaid waiver program). Does anyone know if this tax-exempt income counts toward the $22,320 earnings limit for 2025? My local SSA office gave me conflicting answers when I called twice. The first agent said only taxable income counts, the second said ALL income counts regardless of tax status. I really don't want to trigger any benefit reductions or have to pay anything back later. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you all for your responses! Based on everything shared here, it sounds like I should: 1. Assume my IRS Notice 2014-7 exempt income WILL likely count toward the earnings limit 2. Get documentation from my employer clearly showing which portions of my income fall under this exemption 3. Try to speak with a Technical Expert at SSA (not just a regular rep) 4. Get any determination in writing 5. Consider using Form SSA-795 to document my understanding I'm seriously reconsidering whether to claim now or just wait until my Full Retirement Age (66+8mo) when the earnings test no longer applies. Working and providing care for my family member is important to me, and I don't want to have to reduce those hours. Thank you all again for sharing your experiences and knowledge!

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That's a very thoughtful approach. If you can financially manage waiting until your FRA, it eliminates this particular concern entirely. But if you need to claim earlier, your plan to document everything and get clarity from a Technical Expert is exactly right. Good luck with your decision!

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Your summary is excellent and shows you've really absorbed all the key points from this discussion. Just wanted to add one more consideration - if you do decide to claim early and work with the earnings limit, remember that any benefits withheld due to exceeding the limit aren't "lost forever." SSA will recalculate your benefit at FRA to give you credit for those withheld months, which can increase your monthly payment going forward. That said, given the complexity and uncertainty around how your specific income will be treated, waiting until FRA might indeed be the simpler path. The peace of mind of not having to navigate these complicated rules could be worth more than the early benefits, especially since you're already close to your FRA at 66+8 months. Whatever you decide, make sure to keep detailed records of everything - all communications with SSA, your income documentation, and any decisions they make. This will protect you if questions arise later.

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