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Social Security payment received after death - do I return July benefit for my mother who died in August?

My mother passed away on August 9, 2024 at age 87. I'm handling her affairs as the executor, and I'm confused about her Social Security payment. Her July benefit payment was deposited into her account on August 3rd, but now the bank is telling me they need to return it to Social Security because she's deceased. I thought a person was entitled to their last month's payment if they were alive for any part of that month? The July payment seems legitimate since she was alive all of July, but I'm getting conflicting information. Does anyone know the actual SSA rules about this? Should I fight to keep the July payment in her account or let the bank return it? I need to get this right for the estate settlement.

I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. This is such a common issue that causes unnecessary stress during an already difficult time. You're absolutely right to question the bank's decision - they often err on the side of caution and return ALL Social Security payments when they're notified of a death, regardless of which month they're for. Since your mother lived through the entire month of July, that payment (deposited in August) rightfully belongs to her estate. The key rule is that beneficiaries must be alive for the ENTIRE benefit month, not just when the payment is received. I'd suggest getting written confirmation from SSA that the July payment is legitimate - this will help you push back against the bank's decision. Also, make sure you've officially reported her death to SSA so they don't issue an August payment (which would be deposited in September and would need to be returned). Don't let the bank bully you into returning money that rightfully belongs to your mother's estate. You have enough to deal with right now without fighting for money that's legally yours.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. This situation is incredibly frustrating and unfortunately all too common. You are absolutely right to question the bank's decision - they're being overly cautious and don't understand the specific Social Security payment rules. Since your mother was alive for the entire month of July, that payment (even though it was deposited in August) rightfully belongs to her estate. The rule is simple: beneficiaries must be alive for the complete benefit month to be entitled to that payment, regardless of when it's actually deposited. I'd recommend getting documentation from SSA in writing that confirms the July payment is legitimate - this will give you the ammunition you need to push back against the bank. Many banks have blanket policies to return all SS payments after a death notification, but they need to understand that not every payment is an overpayment. Don't let them bully you into returning money that's rightfully part of your mother's estate. You have enough to deal with during this difficult time without fighting for money that legally belongs to you. Stay strong and advocate for what's right.

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@Yara Campbell Going through the same thing with my Mom s'bank, why can t'they get this right, enough to deal with as it is!

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When does My Social Security account show updated COLA payment for January 2025?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out when the My Social Security website will display my updated benefit amount with the new COLA increase for January 2025. I know they announced the 3.2% increase back in October, but my online account still shows my current payment amount. I'd like to plan my budget for the new year and need to know the exact amount I'll be getting. Does anyone know when SSA typically updates the online accounts with the new payment information? I've been checking almost daily but still nothing.

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I'll stop obsessively checking my account every day and wait until mid-December. I'll try calculating the approximate amount myself in the meantime. It's good to know this is normal and happens every year - this is only my second year receiving benefits so I'm still learning how everything works. I appreciate all your help!

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Welcome to the Social Security community! As someone who's been navigating benefits for a few years now, I can confirm what others have said - the waiting game for COLA updates is definitely frustrating but totally normal. The December timeline everyone mentioned is spot on. One thing I'd add is that if you're enrolled in Medicare Part B, remember that the premium changes will also be reflected in your net benefit amount, so your actual deposit might be different than just applying the 3.2% increase to your current payment. The good news is SSA is pretty reliable about getting the payments right even when the online display lags behind. Hang in there!

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Can I claim ex-spouse Social Security benefits at 64 then switch to my own at 70?

I'm about to turn 64 and I've been out of the workforce since 2020 due to health issues. My husband (who'll become my ex next year when our divorce finalizes) is 69 and started collecting his Social Security at his full retirement age of 66. We've been married for 35 years, so I know I qualify for ex-spouse benefits even after the divorce. My full retirement age is 67, and my benefit amount at FRA will be about $2,850/month, which is slightly higher than what he gets. I'm trying to maximize my lifetime benefits - could I claim 50% of his benefit now at 64 and then switch to my own higher benefit when I turn 70? Or does that restricted application strategy not work anymore? I've heard conflicting information about this.

Thank you all for the responses! I think I'm going to try to talk to a Social Security rep directly about my specific situation. Then I'll probably wait until 70 to maximize my benefit since I'm fortunate enough to have some savings to tide me over. It's disappointing that the restricted application strategy isn't available to me, but I appreciate understanding my actual options clearly now.

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That's a wise approach. One more thing to consider - if your ex passes away before you, you would be eligible for survivor benefits equal to 100% of his benefit amount (or reduced if taken before your FRA). In that unfortunate scenario, you could take the survivor benefit and still switch to your own at 70 if it's higher. Survivor benefits have different rules than spousal/divorced spouse benefits.

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That's a really important point about survivor benefits that I hadn't considered! So even though I can't do the restricted application strategy, there could still be some flexibility if circumstances change. It sounds like Social Security rules are full of these nuances that aren't obvious. I'm definitely going to ask about survivor benefit scenarios when I talk to SSA - better to understand all possibilities upfront.

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One additional consideration for your situation: since you mentioned being out of the workforce since 2020 due to health issues, you might want to explore whether you qualify for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI). If approved, SSDI benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits at your full retirement age without any reduction. This could potentially bridge the gap if you're struggling financially while waiting until 70. The application process can be lengthy, but it's worth investigating if your health condition meets SSA's definition of disability. You can apply online or through that Claimyr service mentioned earlier to speak with an agent about eligibility requirements.

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That's a really good point about SSDI! I hadn't even thought about that possibility. My health issues are primarily chronic fatigue and some mobility problems that made it impossible to continue working. I'm not sure if they would meet SSA's definition of disability, but it might be worth exploring since the financial pressure of waiting until 70 is definitely a concern. Do you know if there's a time limit on how long after you stop working you can apply for SSDI?

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@Anderson Prospero Yes, there is a time limit! You generally need to apply for SSDI within 5 years of when your disability began or when you last worked whichever (is later .)Since you stopped working in 2020 due to health issues, you re'still well within that window. The key is proving that your condition prevented you from doing substantial "gainful activity -" which for 2024 is earning more than $1,550 per month. Chronic fatigue and mobility issues can definitely qualify if they re'severe enough to prevent you from working any job, not just your previous job. I d'definitely encourage you to look into it since SSDI also comes with Medicare eligibility after 24 months, which could be huge for managing your health conditions.

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Unexpected Social Security approval call - legit or scam? (Medicare premium already deducted)

I'm freaking out a bit after receiving an unexpected phone call AND email supposedly from SSA today about my retirement benefits. I applied online about 6 weeks ago but hadn't heard anything until now. I nervously called back the 877 number with the extension from the email. The rep asked me 3 verification questions (not my SSN, but other personal info). Then she told me my first benefit payment in February would be $2,450 since I'd already paid my Medicare premium, and after that I'd get $2,265 monthly once Medicare premiums are deducted. She also asked if I wanted the 6-month retroactive payment option with the reduced monthly benefit that would result. I declined and kept my January 2025 start date since my finances are stable right now. We also discussed tax withholding options, and I chose 12%. Everything SEEMED legit, but I'm paranoid about scams these days! Do Social Security reps typically call like this with benefit approvals? Would scammers know all these details about Medicare premiums and retroactive payment options? I'm still worried they got all my info somehow. UPDATE: Just checked my mySocialSecurity account and it shows "approved" status now. Guessing it wasn't a scam after all, but still wondering if this is normal procedure for SSA?

wait so if you apply for social security do you HAVE to take medicare too?? I'm turning 65 later this year but still have good insurance through my wifes job. dont want to pay for something i dont need yet

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No, you don't have to take Medicare when you apply for Social Security. They're separate programs, though they're administered by the same agency. However, if you're still working and covered by employer insurance, you should look into whether you need to enroll in Medicare Part A (which is premium-free for most people) even if you delay Part B. There can be penalties for delaying Medicare enrollment if you don't have qualifying coverage. You should contact Social Security directly to discuss your specific situation.

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As someone new to navigating Social Security, this whole thread has been incredibly educational! I'm still a few years away from retirement but seeing real experiences like yours helps me understand what to expect. The fact that SSA representatives actually call to discuss complex benefit options is reassuring - I always assumed everything would be done through impersonal letters or online portals. One question for the community: For those who've gone through this process, how far in advance should someone apply? The original poster mentioned applying 6 weeks ago - is that typical timing, or should people apply earlier to avoid any delays in receiving their first payments?

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Will Social Security GPO reduce my benefits if my CalSTRS spouse dies before me?

I'm trying to understand how GPO will affect me in different scenarios with my wife's CalSTRS pension. Here's our situation: My wife has a CalSTRS pension that will pay about $7,400/month. We've selected the 100% beneficiary option, so if she passes before me, I'd receive the full $7,400/month from CalSTRS. My Social Security benefit will be around $2,304/month based on my own work record. I'm confused about how GPO works in this case. I understand it affects spousal/survivor Social Security benefits when someone gets a government pension, but: 1. While we're both alive, does GPO affect my own SS benefit at all since my wife has CalSTRS? 2. If my wife dies first, would I lose some/all of my Social Security because of GPO when I start receiving her CalSTRS pension? The CalSTRS website says GPO reduces Social Security spousal/widow benefits by 2/3 of the CalSTRS amount. So would I lose my entire $2,304 SS benefit if I'm getting $7,400 from CalSTRS as a survivor benefit? (since 2/3 of $7,400 is more than $2,304) I'm trying to plan our retirement and need to know if I'll actually have both income sources if something happens to my wife. Thanks for any help!

Just wanted to add that GPO is so frustrating for those of us affected by it. I worked as a teacher for 28 years and get a pension, but my husband had a great career with high SS earnings. When he passes, I'll only get a tiny fraction of what most widows would get from his record because of GPO. It feels so unfair that I'm punished for choosing a public service career!

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i know! its like they penalize teachers and public workers!! my friend who never worked gets MORE from her husband's ss than i will get with my 30 years of teaching just because her husband had ss and mine didnt. makes no sense!

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As a newcomer trying to understand all this, it's really helpful to see everyone's explanations! From what I'm gathering, the key distinction is that GPO only affects Social Security benefits you'd receive based on someone ELSE'S work record (like spousal or survivor benefits), but it doesn't touch the Social Security you earned from your own work history. So @Carter Holmes, your $2,304/month Social Security benefit that you earned yourself should be completely safe - GPO won't reduce it at all, even when you start receiving your wife's CalSTRS pension as a survivor benefit. The confusing part seems to be that there are two separate government pension rules (GPO and WEP) that people often mix up, plus SSA's own explanations aren't always clear. But everyone here seems to agree on the basic principle: your own earned SS benefits = protected from GPO. I'd definitely follow the advice about getting an official determination from SSA though, just to have it in writing for your peace of mind!

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