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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you can actually request a benefit estimate from SSA that includes potential divorced spouse benefits before you officially apply. When you call, ask them to run a "what-if" scenario - they can look at both your record and your ex's record and tell you exactly what you'd receive if you applied now versus waiting until your FRA. This could help you make a more informed decision about timing without committing to anything. They can also tell you if your ex's benefit amount would even result in additional money for you, since sometimes people assume they'll get more when their own benefit is already close to 50% of their ex's. Also, just a heads up - if you do decide to apply before your FRA and you're still working, make sure to report your expected earnings accurately. I've heard of cases where people underestimated their work income and ended up with overpayments that had to be paid back later. The protective filing date someone mentioned earlier is crucial too - even if you just call to get information, ask them to establish that protective filing date so you don't lose any potential back benefits while you're deciding.

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This is really valuable information! I had no idea you could request a "what-if" scenario before officially applying - that sounds like exactly what I need to make an informed decision. It would be so helpful to know the actual numbers before going through the whole application process. The point about accurately reporting expected earnings is important too. I'm still working part-time and my income can vary a bit month to month, so I'll need to be careful about that estimate. I'm definitely going to ask about the protective filing date when I call. It sounds like there are so many little details that could affect the outcome - having someone experienced walk through all the options would give me much more confidence in whatever decision I make. Thank you for sharing these insights! This is exactly the kind of practical advice that's so hard to find elsewhere.

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I've been helping seniors navigate Social Security for over a decade, and your situation is very common! Here are some key points that might help: **Timing Strategy:** Since your FRA is just 4 months away (July 2025), I'd strongly recommend waiting. Here's why: - At FRA, the earnings test completely disappears, so your work income won't reduce your benefits - You'll get the full spousal benefit calculation without early filing reductions - Less complexity = fewer chances for SSA to make errors **Application Process:** Unfortunately, divorced spouse benefits really do require calling or visiting an office. The online system has been problematic for years. When you call: - Ask specifically for a "divorced spouse benefit inquiry" - Request they run estimates for both applying now vs. at FRA - Get a protective filing date established **Documentation:** Have ready: marriage certificate, divorce decree, your ex's full name/DOB (SSN if you have it), and your own earnings projection for 2025. **Reality Check:** With his $150K income vs. your $57K, there's likely a meaningful benefit available, but the exact amount depends on his complete earnings history, not just recent income. The wait will be frustrating, but given you're so close to FRA, the timing actually works in your favor. Those 4 months could save you from earnings test complications and get you the maximum available benefit.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for laying out such a clear strategy! You've convinced me that waiting until my FRA in July is definitely the smart move. The idea that the earnings test completely disappears at FRA makes it seem like a no-brainer, especially since I'm still working. I really appreciate the specific advice about what to ask for when I call ("divorced spouse benefit inquiry") and getting that protective filing date. Having a professional perspective on this makes me feel so much more confident about the process. One quick question - when you mention getting a "protective filing date established," does that lock in July as my application date even if I call to inquire before then? I want to make sure I understand the timing correctly. Thank you again for taking the time to share your expertise. This is exactly the kind of guidance I needed!

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Great question about the protective filing date! To clarify - the protective filing date doesn't automatically lock in July as your application date. What it does is preserve your right to benefits from the date you first inquired, which protects you from losing any potential back payments if there are processing delays. So if you call in April to get information and establish a protective filing, but then decide to officially apply in July at your FRA, your benefit start date would still be July (when you wanted it to start). But if there were any administrative delays that pushed your approval into August or September, you wouldn't lose those July benefits. Think of it as insurance against SSA's processing times. It's especially valuable for divorced spouse benefits since they often require more documentation review and can take longer to process than regular applications. The key is being clear with the representative about your intentions - that you want to establish a protective filing for July 2025 (your FRA month) while gathering information now. This gives you the best of both worlds: protection against delays while still optimizing your timing for maximum benefits.

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Another tip that might be helpful: Consider gathering important documents now while your husband can help. You'll need his Social Security number, birth certificate, death certificate (when the time comes), your marriage certificate, tax returns, and military records if applicable. Having these organized in advance can make the application process smoother. Also, survivor applications cannot be done online - you'll need to call SSA for an appointment or visit an office.

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This is excellent advice. I'll start creating a file with copies of all these documents so they're easy to access if needed. And good to know about not being able to apply online - that would have been my first assumption.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also consider how survivor benefits might interact with any health insurance coverage you currently have through your husband's employer or Medicare. When my neighbor's husband passed, she lost his employer health coverage and had to scramble to find new insurance while dealing with everything else. If your husband is already on Medicare and you're on his employer plan, you'll want to understand what happens to your coverage and whether you'd be eligible for COBRA or need to find marketplace insurance until you're Medicare-eligible yourself. It's another layer of planning that's easy to overlook but can be financially significant, especially if you have ongoing medical needs.

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That's such an important point about health insurance that I hadn't even thought about! Thank you for bringing this up. My husband does have excellent employer coverage that I'm on, and I just assumed I could continue with COBRA, but I should definitely look into the costs and timeline for that. The idea of dealing with insurance changes on top of everything else during such a difficult time is overwhelming. I'll add researching health insurance continuation options to my planning list. Do you happen to know if there are any special enrollment periods or protections for surviving spouses beyond the typical COBRA timeline?

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Miguel. I went through this exact situation when my ex-husband passed away 3 years ago with kids who were 15 and 17 at the time. Your children should definitely see an increase - mine went from receiving about $800 each to around $1,200 each per month when they converted from dependent to survivor benefits. A few things that helped me navigate this process: 1. Don't wait for the death certificate to arrive - call SSA and report the death immediately. They can start the process and you can submit the certificate later. 2. The conversion isn't automatic despite what some offices might tell you. You absolutely need to contact them and request the survivor benefits. 3. Keep detailed records of when you call and who you speak with. I had to call back multiple times because information got lost between representatives. 4. If possible, try to get an in-person appointment even if it's weeks out - sometimes they can process things faster when you're there with all your documents. The whole process took about 2 months for us, but we received backpay to the date of death. Your kids should be able to keep receiving benefits until they graduate high school or turn 19. Hang in there - the financial help will come!

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Thank you for sharing your experience, Theodore - it's really helpful to hear from someone who went through this exact situation. The increase from $800 to $1,200 per child gives me a much better idea of what to expect. I'm definitely going to call tomorrow morning to report the death and start the process, even though I'm still waiting for certified copies of the death certificate. Your tip about keeping detailed records is smart - I'll make sure to write down names and dates of every call. It's reassuring to know that even though it took 2 months, you got backpay to the date of death. That makes me feel less anxious about the timing.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Miguel. I went through something similar when my brother passed away and left behind two teenagers. One thing I want to add that others haven't mentioned - make sure you ask SSA about any potential underpayments when you call. Sometimes there can be a gap between when the parent dies and when survivor benefits are processed, and you might be entitled to additional payments for that period. Also, if your ex-husband had any delayed retirement credits (since he was 67 when he passed), those would factor into the survivor benefit calculation and could mean even higher amounts for your children. The whole process can feel overwhelming when you're grieving, but the financial support really does help. Keep pushing through the phone calls - it's worth it for your kids' future.

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I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This thread has been incredibly informative - everyone has covered the key points about your niece's eligibility perfectly. She definitely qualifies for benefits until high school graduation since she's currently enrolled full-time and under 19. I wanted to add one practical tip that helped me when dealing with SSA: if you're planning to visit in person (which sounds like the best approach given the phone difficulties), try to schedule your visit for mid-week if possible, and arrive about 30 minutes before they open. Bring a book or something to keep occupied - even arriving early, there's often still a wait. Also, when you're gathering all the documentation everyone mentioned, consider making a simple checklist and checking off each item as you collect it. In stressful situations like this, it's easy to think you have everything only to realize you forgot something important when you're already at the office. Your niece is lucky to have such a dedicated advocate looking out for her during this difficult time. These benefits will provide important financial support as she finishes her senior year and transitions to college. The fact that you're taking care of this now shows how much you care about her future.

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Thank you for the practical tips about timing the visit and arriving early - that's exactly the kind of real-world advice that makes this whole process feel more manageable. The checklist idea is brilliant too, especially when you're dealing with so many documents and feeling overwhelmed by everything. I can definitely see myself thinking I have everything organized only to realize I forgot something crucial once we're there. Mid-week timing makes a lot of sense - I imagine weekends and Mondays are probably their busiest times with people who couldn't get there during the work week. I really appreciate you taking the time to share these logistics tips along with the encouragement. It's clear this community understands both the technical requirements and the emotional reality of navigating these systems while grieving. Having a clear plan of action from everyone here is giving me so much more confidence about getting this done right for my niece.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. Having to navigate Social Security bureaucracy while grieving is incredibly difficult, but you're doing such an important thing for your niece. Everyone here has given excellent advice about the eligibility rules - your niece definitely qualifies since she's currently enrolled full-time in high school and under 19. The benefits will continue until she graduates or turns 19, whichever comes first. I wanted to add something that might help with the application process: when you gather all the required documents (death certificate, birth certificate, school enrollment verification, etc.), make sure to get an official transcript or letter from her school that specifically shows her current grade level and expected graduation date. Sometimes SSA wants very specific documentation about academic progress, not just enrollment status. Also, if your niece has any plans for summer school or dual enrollment college courses while still in high school, make sure to clarify how those might affect her status. The rules can get complicated when students are taking courses at multiple institutions. The most important thing is to apply immediately - that 6-month retroactive limit means time is critical. Even if you don't have every single document perfectly organized, it's better to start the application process now and submit additional paperwork as needed rather than wait. Your niece is fortunate to have you advocating for her during such a difficult time. These benefits can provide crucial support as she finishes her senior year.

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I'm going through something very similar! Just suspended my benefits a few months ago when I went back to work, and I've been getting these random payments that make no sense. The most recent one was $680 and I had no idea what it was for. After reading everyone's responses, I'm pretty sure mine are also Medicare premium refunds. I was paying about $165/month for Part B through my SS deductions, so the timing and amount seem to match up. It's so frustrating that SSA doesn't provide clear explanations for these payments anywhere online! I'm definitely going to try that 7am calling strategy to get through to someone who can explain exactly what each payment was for. And I'll ask for that detailed breakdown letter that someone mentioned - that sounds like exactly what I need to make sense of all this. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here. It's reassuring to know these mystery payments are actually normal when you suspend benefits and not some kind of error that I'll have to pay back later!

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Your experience sounds almost identical to mine! The $680 amount and timing really does suggest Medicare premium refunds - that's about 4 months worth at $165/month. I went through the same confusion when I first got these mystery payments. Definitely try the early morning calling strategy, it really does work better than calling during peak hours. And yes, ask for that breakdown letter! I wish I had known about that option earlier. It's such a relief to find out these payments are totally normal and not errors we'll have to repay. The SSA really needs to do a better job explaining these things upfront instead of leaving everyone guessing!

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I've been dealing with this exact same situation! Started collecting at 62, went back to work part-time, and kept getting these mysterious payments that had me totally confused. After months of wondering, I finally got through to SSA (early morning calling really does work better!) and discovered mine were a combination of Medicare premium adjustments and earnings recalculations. The most helpful thing the rep told me was that when you're working while collecting early retirement benefits, SSA does continuous monitoring of your earnings record. Sometimes they discover they miscalculated your monthly benefit amount based on the annual earnings limit, or they get updated W-2 information that changes your benefit calculation slightly. These corrections get paid out as separate lump sums rather than adjusting your ongoing monthly payment. For anyone still trying to figure this out - definitely request that detailed breakdown letter mentioned in earlier comments. It saved me so much confusion and anxiety about whether these were overpayments I'd have to return. Turns out they're completely legitimate adjustments that happen more often than you'd think!

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This is so helpful! I'm new to navigating all this Social Security stuff and had no idea about the continuous monitoring they do. It's really reassuring to hear that these mystery payments are legitimate adjustments rather than mistakes. I've been worried about accidentally getting overpaid and having to deal with paying it back later. The detailed breakdown letter sounds like exactly what I need - I'm definitely going to ask for that when I call. Thanks for sharing your experience and for the encouragement that the early morning calling strategy actually works!

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