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I'll be turning 62 next April and trying to figure out my best strategy with Social Security. I lost my wife to cancer in 2023 after 29 years together. She was always the primary earner (made about 2.5x what I did) since I scaled back my career when our daughter was young. I'm thinking about taking my own reduced retirement benefit at 62 while continuing to work part-time at my current job. My question is about the earnings test - can I contribute heavily to my 401k (planning to put in about 30% of my salary) to keep my income under the 2025 earnings limit? Then my plan would be to switch to my survivor benefits at my full retirement age of 67. Would this approach work or am I missing something about how SS counts income for the earnings test? My HR department wasn't sure about this when I asked them.
I just started collecting Social Security retirement benefits as of January 2025, even though I'm only 65 and my Full Retirement Age is 67 and 2 months. Now I've been offered a part-time gig as a product demonstrator at weekend conventions, but it's 1099 work (self-employed). The monthly pay would keep me under the earnings limit (around $1,850/month I think?), but I'm completely confused about how this works with early SS benefits. Do I need to report this income to SSA even if I'm careful to stay under the monthly limit? Also, since it's 1099 work, how do taxes work? Do I need to make estimated tax payments to the IRS? And what about Social Security taxes - do I pay both the employee AND employer portions now? I've never been self-employed before and don't want to mess up my benefits or get hit with penalties. The job only involves working 2-3 trade shows monthly, but I want to make sure I understand all the implications before I accept. (And yes, I'll make sure my total income stays below the threshold that would trigger IRMAA Medicare premium increases!
Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! This is exactly what I needed. I'll definitely: 1. Track all my work hours and keep well under 45/month 2. Keep excellent records of all business expenses 3. Set aside 30% for taxes and make quarterly payments 4. Report my estimated earnings to SSA And I'll check out that Claimyr service to get specific guidance from SSA about my situation. The trade show job pays $300-$400 per event, so even doing 2-3 per month I should stay well below the annual limit. I just wanted to make sure I understood all the tax implications before jumping in!
Great question! I went through something very similar when I started collecting at 62 and then picked up some freelance work. A few additional things to keep in mind: Since you're doing product demonstrations, you might be able to deduct things like demonstration supplies, promotional materials, or even clothing if it's specifically required for the job. Also, if you're staying in hotels for these weekend conventions, those travel expenses can really add up as deductions. One thing that caught me off guard was that Social Security counts your net self-employment income for the earnings test, but the IRS requires you to pay self-employment tax on 92.35% of your net earnings (they give you a small deduction). It's a weird quirk in the system but worth knowing about. Also, since you're just starting in 2025, you get to use the monthly earnings test this year instead of the annual test, which can be more forgiving if your income varies month to month. Just make sure you're not going over that $1,860 monthly limit in any single month.
My 38-year-old son has been on SSI for about 7 years due to multiple disabilities (seizure disorder and mental health conditions). My ex-husband just started collecting his Social Security retirement in February, and suddenly everything's changing with my son's benefits. The SSA notified us that my son is now eligible for DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits instead of SSI. The monthly payment is higher ($1,450 vs. $943), which initially seemed great, but then yesterday we got a devastating letter saying his Medicaid coverage will terminate in 30 days! I'm panicking because my son has biweekly therapy sessions, sees 4 specialists, and takes 9 daily medications (mostly anticonvulsants, plus anxiety meds). Without Medicaid, I have no idea how we'll afford his treatments. His medication alone costs over $3,200/month without insurance. Does anyone know if there's some way to keep Medicaid with DAC benefits? Or what other insurance options we should look at? Is Medicare automatic with DAC? I'm completely lost and terrified about maintaining his care continuity.
UPDATE: I wanted to thank everyone for the amazing advice! I contacted our state's Disability Rights office yesterday, and they connected me with a benefits specialist who knew exactly what to do. Apparently there's something called the "Medicaid Working Disabled" program in our state that my son qualifies for even though he can't work full-time. We're submitting the application today. I also spoke with his neurologist who is providing 3 months of emergency medication samples while we sort this out, and has enrolled him in patient assistance programs for two of his most expensive medications. Still working on getting through to SSA to clarify some details about the transition, but at least I feel like we have a path forward now. Thank you all so much!
So glad to hear you're making progress! The "Medicaid Working Disabled" program is exactly what saved us when my daughter went through this transition. Just a heads up - the application process can take 30-45 days, so make sure you ask about retroactive coverage to avoid any gaps. Also, when you do get through to SSA, ask them about the "Medicare Buy-In" option for when his Medicare kicks in after the 24-month waiting period. With his medication costs, having both Medicare and Medicaid will be crucial for full coverage. You're doing an amazing job advocating for your son - this system is so complex and most people don't realize these programs exist until they're in crisis mode like you were!
I'm turning 70 in June 2025 and trying to maximize my Social Security benefits. Someone at my retirement planning group mentioned a strategy I hadn't heard before - they said if I wait until I'm 70 and 6 months old to apply, I can request my start date to be retroactive to my birth month and collect 6 months of "back pay" while still getting my maximum benefit amount going forward. This sounds too good to be true! I thought the delayed retirement credits stopped accruing at age 70, but can I really wait another 6 months after that and still get those months of payments I missed? Has anyone actually done this successfully? Just trying to make sure I don't mess up this one-time decision.
This has been such an informative discussion! I'm 69 and have been stressing about the timing for months. Reading everyone's experiences has really helped me understand that the 6-month retroactive payment rule is real, but there's absolutely no benefit to waiting beyond 70. One thing I wanted to add from my research - I've been using the Social Security Administration's online retirement estimator tool (ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html) to model different scenarios, and it's been really helpful for visualizing exactly how much I'd receive at different claiming ages. For anyone still on the fence about timing, I'd recommend plugging in your numbers there to see the concrete dollar differences. Also, for those worried about getting through to SSA on the phone, I've found that calling right when they open at 8 AM local time significantly reduces wait times. I called last week just to ask some preliminary questions and only waited about 15 minutes versus the horror stories of 3+ hour holds. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real experiences - it's so much more valuable than just reading the official SSA publications!
Thank you for sharing that tip about calling SSA right at 8 AM - that's incredibly practical advice! I've been dreading the phone call process after hearing all the horror stories about long hold times. The retirement estimator tool you mentioned sounds really useful too. I've been trying to calculate the numbers manually, but having an official SSA tool to model different scenarios would definitely give me more confidence in my decision. It's amazing how much peace of mind comes from hearing real people's experiences rather than just reading the government websites. This whole thread has transformed my understanding of the process from confusing and scary to something I feel I can actually handle successfully!
This has been such a comprehensive and helpful discussion! As someone who's 68 and planning to file at 70, I wanted to add one more consideration that my elder law attorney mentioned - the importance of having all your documentation organized before you apply. Beyond just knowing when to file, make sure you have easy access to your birth certificate, marriage certificate (if applicable), tax returns from the last few years, and any military service records. The SSA rep will need to verify various details, and having everything ready can make the process much smoother. Also, if you have any name changes throughout your life (maiden names, etc.), be prepared to provide documentation for those as well. I learned this the hard way when helping my sister apply - what should have been a straightforward call turned into weeks of back-and-forth because she couldn't immediately provide proof of a name change from 30 years ago. One last tip: consider setting up a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov before you apply. You can review your earnings history to make sure everything is accurate, which could save time during your application call. Plus, once you start receiving benefits, you can access statements and manage certain aspects of your account online rather than having to call. The collective wisdom in this thread has been invaluable - thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences!
I recently applied for survivor benefits after losing my husband last December. I'm turning 60 next month and decided to file for the early survivor benefits even though I know they're reduced. The SSA rep I spoke with was super busy and rushed through my questions. What I forgot to ask was: when I start receiving the monthly payments, will they come on the date determined by MY birth date or my late HUSBAND'S birth date? His birthday was on the 11th so he always got his disability payment on the second Wednesday. My birthday is on the 28th which would put me in the 4th Wednesday group. I'm trying to plan my bill payments accordingly, and the difference of 2 weeks matters for my budget planning. Has anyone gone through this who can tell me which schedule they'll use?
No one seems to know the correct answer to this question I am getting survivors of benefits for my late husband do the payment dates while on my birthday which is June 9th 1965 for my late husband's birthday which is September 12th 1940
Mei Liu
Since you mentioned health insurance: be aware that if you take Social Security at 62, you still won't be eligible for Medicare until 65. Make sure you factor your health insurance costs into your calculations for those 3 years if you're planning to reduce your work hours. Many people forget this important detail when planning early retirement with Social Security.
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Andre Rousseau
AuthorThat's a crucial point I'd overlooked. My employer health insurance is quite good, but if I reduce my hours too much, I might lose eligibility. I'll have to check with HR about what the minimum hours would be to maintain coverage. The cost of private health insurance for 3 years until Medicare eligibility could definitely change my calculations.
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T Waugh
Yes you can as long as the 401K contributions are pre tax and taken out of your paycheck by your employer.
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PixelWarrior
I'm afraid this is incorrect. The Social Security Administration specifically states that for the earnings test, they count your gross wages BEFORE any deductions including 401k contributions, taxes, health insurance premiums, etc. It doesn't matter if the 401k contributions are pre-tax or taken directly from your paycheck - SSA still counts your full gross wages when determining if you've exceeded the annual earnings limit. Multiple people in this thread have confirmed this, and it's well documented in SSA publications. Pre-tax 401k contributions do help reduce your taxable income for IRS purposes, but they don't help with the Social Security earnings test.
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