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Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out a strategy for maximizing my Social Security benefits. My husband passed away in 2021 and I'm trying to determine my best course of action. Can I start taking my own SS retirement benefits before reaching my Full Retirement Age (FRA), and then switch to survivor benefits once I reach FRA? I've heard there's a reduction in the survivor benefit amount if I claim before reaching my FRA - is that correct? I'm 62 now and my FRA is 67. My own benefit would be about $1,850 if I took it now, while my husband's benefit at his passing was around $2,700 monthly. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Just opened my bank account this morning to find an extra payment from Social Security that I wasn't expecting! This isn't my regular monthly retirement benefit - it's smaller (about $485) and came separately. I started collecting at my FRA 4 years ago but have continued working pretty steadily since then. My earnings have actually increased over the past few years - I'm putting in more hours at my job than I was when I initially filed. I'm wondering if SSA automatically recalculates benefits when your recent earnings are higher than what was originally used in your benefit calculation? I know they take your best 35 years, and my recent years are definitely better than some of those early career years they must have used initially. Or could this be some kind of retroactive COLA adjustment? I haven't received any letters explaining this payment and can't think of any other reason I'd get this money. Has anyone experienced something similar or knows what triggers these unexpected payments?
Did u get a letter in the mail?? Usually SS sends something explaining any payment changes. Maybe the letter is just delayed? I'd hold onto that money until you're sure what it's for.... SS has been known to make mistakes and then demand repayment with penalties!!
No letter yet, but based on everyone's responses, it sounds like the letter typically comes AFTER the payment, which seems like a strange system! I'll definitely keep an eye out for it in the mail over the next couple of weeks. From what others are saying, it sounds like this is a legitimate recalculation based on my continued work, but you're right - I'll be cautious until I get the official explanation.
This is really helpful information! As someone new to Social Security benefits, I had no idea that they automatically recalculate your benefits if you keep working. I'm planning to start collecting at my FRA next year but was hoping to continue working part-time for a few more years. It's encouraging to know that those additional earnings could actually boost my monthly benefit rather than just being "wasted." Quick question - does this automatic recalculation happen regardless of how much you earn while collecting, or is there a minimum threshold your new earnings need to meet to trigger the review? I'm wondering if my planned part-time work would be substantial enough to make a difference.
I lost my husband unexpectedly last year. He was our family's primary breadwinner and had a much higher income than me throughout our marriage. Currently, my two children (ages 8 and 11) are receiving survivor benefits, which has been helping us get by. I have enough work credits for my own retirement benefit, but it will be significantly lower than what my husband would have received. I've been reading about survivor benefits and understand I can claim as early as age 60, but I'm wondering about something important: If I wait to claim survivor benefits until after 60 (I'm currently 52), will my husband's benefit amount continue to grow during those years? Or did his benefit amount become fixed when he passed away? I'm trying to make the best long-term financial decisions for our family, especially once the kids' benefits stop when they turn 18. Any insights from those who understand how survivor benefits work would be so appreciated.
One more thing to consider as you plan: Keep track of your own earnings. If you continue working, your own benefit may grow. You should request a Social Security statement annually to monitor both your potential retirement benefit AND your potential survivor benefit. This helps you optimize your claiming strategy as you approach age 60-62. Also, survivor benefits and retirement benefits have different rules. You can claim survivor benefits as early as 60 (or 50 if disabled), but your own retirement benefit can't be claimed until 62. This creates those strategic claiming opportunities others have mentioned.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Connor. You're asking really smart questions about planning ahead. Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful as you think about your timeline: if you're still working and earning income, there's an earnings test that applies to survivor benefits claimed before your full retirement age. If you claim survivor benefits at 60 but are still working, you might have benefits reduced if you earn over the annual limit (around $22,320 for 2024). This is temporary though - any benefits withheld due to earnings get added back to your benefit amount once you reach full retirement age. This might factor into your decision about when to claim, especially if you plan to keep working. The good news is you have 8 years to plan this out and see how your financial situation evolves. Your kids will be 16 and 19 by then, so your expenses and needs may be quite different.
I just filed for my Social Security retirement at 64 (taking it a bit early, I know). On my application, I noted that I have a 32-year-old son with autism who currently receives SSI payments of $943/month. I've heard he might qualify for Disabled Adult Child benefits on my record, which could potentially increase his monthly amount.My question is - what happens next? Do I need to do something to initiate his DAC claim, or will SSA automatically contact me about this? Do I need to visit the office with him? I'm confused about whether this is something that automatically triggers from my retirement application or if it's a completely separate process I need to start.I don't want him to miss out on higher benefits if he qualifies, but I'm not sure what my next step should be. Thanks for any guidance!
That's really helpful information. I was worried that me taking benefits early would permanently reduce what he might receive. It's a relief to know his benefit is based on my full retirement amount instead of my reduced benefit.
One more thing to keep in mind - when you go to your appointment next week, ask about the effective date for his DAC benefits. Since you've already filed for your retirement, his DAC benefits can potentially be backdated to the month after you became entitled to retirement benefits. This could mean he gets some retroactive payments! Also, don't be surprised if they need to do a redetermination of his disability status even though he's already on SSI - it's standard procedure, but since he's already been found disabled, it should go smoothly.
I need some clarity on ex-spousal Social Security benefits after a long-term marriage. My situation: we divorced in 2023 after 31 years of marriage, and I'm 2 years older than my ex-husband. I was primarily a stay-at-home mom with only part-time income throughout our marriage, so my own SS benefits would be minimal. I'm approaching my full retirement age (66 years and 10 months) soon, but my ex won't reach his FRA for another 2 years. My question is: Do I have to wait until HE reaches his full retirement age before I can claim the 50% ex-spousal benefit, or can I file when I reach MY full retirement age? I've gotten conflicting information from friends, and the SSA website isn't clear about this specific scenario with the age difference. Anyone dealt with something similar? Thanks!
Just wanted to add one more tip from my experience - when you do get your appointment scheduled, ask the SSA representative to walk you through exactly how your benefit amount was calculated. They should be able to show you your ex's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) and confirm that you're getting the full 50% since you're filing at your FRA. I found it really helpful to understand the numbers, especially since there can be small variations based on cost-of-living adjustments and when your ex's earnings were recorded. Also, don't be surprised if your first payment takes a few extra weeks to arrive - mine was delayed because they had to verify some old employment records. Good luck with everything!
I'm going through something very similar! My divorce was finalized last year after 28 years of marriage, and I'm also about 2 years older than my ex. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea I could file at my FRA without waiting for him. I've been stressing about this for months thinking I'd have to wait until he turned 67. One question for those who have been through this process: did any of you run into issues with SSA initially telling you the wrong information? I'm worried about getting conflicting advice when I call. Also, has anyone tried the online application vs. in-person appointment? I'm wondering which route might be smoother. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this community has been more helpful than any official resource I've found!
Hi Ava! I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too. Regarding conflicting information from SSA - yes, unfortunately several people here mentioned getting different answers from different reps. That's why I think it's really important to ask to speak with someone specifically experienced in ex-spouse benefits, and maybe even ask them to cite the specific regulation (it's in the Code of Federal Regulations). As for online vs. in-person, I've seen mixed experiences in this thread. Some people had success with phone appointments after using services like Claimyr to get through, while others needed in-person visits to sort out document issues. Given that we both have the age difference factor, it might be worth doing an in-person appointment where they can review all your documents at once and you can ask them to walk through the calculation like Dmitry suggested. The key thing everyone seems to agree on is that we CAN file at our FRA regardless of our ex's status - that's been consistently confirmed by multiple people who actually went through this process successfully!
Max Knight
Sounds like a solid plan! Just remember that if you're still working while collecting early retirement benefits, you'll be subject to the earnings test until you reach your FRA (around $21,240/year for 2025 as someone mentioned). Good luck with everything!
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Connor Murphy
Great to see so many people sharing their experiences with this strategy! Just wanted to add one important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to keep detailed records of all your communications with SSA. Save copies of any forms you submit, write down the names of representatives you speak with, and keep notes with dates of phone calls or office visits. This documentation can be incredibly valuable if there are any issues or mix-ups later on. Also, consider requesting a benefit verification letter once your retirement benefits start - this confirms what type of benefit you're receiving and can help when you switch to survivor benefits at your FRA. The more documentation you have, the smoother the transition should be!
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Wesley Hallow
Great question about documentation! I'd definitely recommend both digital and physical backups. I use a simple folder system - one main folder called "SSA Benefits" with subfolders for "Applications & Forms," "Correspondence," "Phone Call Notes," and "Benefit Statements." For digital, scan everything and store in cloud storage like Google Drive or Dropbox so you can access it anywhere. For the benefit verification letter, you need to request it - they don't send automatically. You can get it online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov, or call and request one. It's also called a "benefit verification letter" or "proof of income letter." One more tip: when you call SSA, always ask for the representative's name and employee ID number, and jot down the date/time. If there's ever a dispute, you can reference that specific conversation. The extra documentation really pays off!
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Naila Gordon
@a7bb1ddb2dc9 Great questions! For organizing records, I'd recommend both digital and physical backups. Create a dedicated folder (physical or digital) with subfolders like "Applications," "Phone Call Notes," "Letters/Correspondence," and "Benefit Statements." For each phone call, write down: date, time, representative name/ID, what was discussed, and any follow-up actions needed. For the benefit verification letter, you can request it online through your my Social Security account (ssa.gov/myaccount) - it's under "Replacement Documents" and called a "Benefit Verification Letter" or "Budget Letter." You can also call and request one, but online is usually faster. They don't send these automatically, so you need to request it. One more tip - if you visit a local SSA office, ask for a receipt or summary of what was filed. Some offices provide these, and it's great documentation of exactly what applications were submitted and when.
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