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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm feeling much more confident now knowing that I should be able to claim the higher survivor benefit regardless of which spouse passes away first. I'm going to use that Claimyr service that was mentioned to speak with SSA directly and get this confirmed for my specific case. I'll also gather my marriage certificate and divorce decree to have them ready. So relieved to know this won't negatively impact my future financial security if I decide to remarry!

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Just want to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do speak with SSA, ask them to put a note in your file about your eligibility for both survivor benefits. That way if there's any confusion later (like what happened to Adrian's mom), there's already documentation in the system. Also, since you're 62 now, you might want to ask about your own retirement benefit timing too - sometimes it makes sense to take your own reduced benefit first and then switch to the higher survivor benefit later, depending on the amounts. Good luck with your decision!

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This is really smart advice about getting documentation in the file! I hadn't thought about the timing strategy with my own benefits vs survivor benefits either. That could make a big difference in total lifetime benefits. I'm definitely going to ask about both of these points when I call. Thanks for thinking of these additional considerations!

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Thanks everyone for the reassurance! It sounds like this is totally normal and I was worried for nothing. I'll check again early next year to make sure my 2024 earnings show up correctly. And I'll definitely be more diligent about reviewing my SS records annually going forward.

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That's a great plan. Regular verification is the best way to ensure your record stays accurate. And remember that your Social Security retirement benefit will be based on your highest 35 years of earnings, so keeping track of your earnings record throughout your career is definitely worthwhile.

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Just wanted to add that you can also set up email notifications through your my Social Security account to get alerts when your earnings record is updated. I started doing this after having a similar scare a few years ago. The notifications typically come in late fall when the previous year's earnings get posted. It's a nice way to stay on top of things without having to remember to manually check every year!

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Oh wow, I had no idea you could set up email notifications for this! That's incredibly helpful - I definitely would have forgotten to check manually next year. Do you know if there are other useful notifications you can enable through the my Social Security account?

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I'm new to this community but going through a similar situation - my husband is 75 and I'm 61, still working. One thing I learned from meeting with a financial planner is that you should also consider the tax implications of your decision. Survivor benefits are taxable just like regular Social Security benefits, and if you're still working with a $48k salary, you might end up paying taxes on up to 85% of the survivor benefit. Also, don't forget that Medicare eligibility starts at 65 regardless of when you claim Social Security benefits. If you're getting health insurance through your employer now, factor in those costs when you're deciding whether to keep working or not. The timing of when you stop working, when you claim benefits, and when you transition to Medicare can all impact your overall financial situation. It might be worth meeting with a fee-only financial advisor who can help you model different scenarios before making your final decision.

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Welcome to the community! That's a really important point about the tax implications that I hadn't fully considered. With my current income plus potential survivor benefits, I could definitely hit that 85% taxation threshold. I hadn't thought about the Medicare timing either - that's another piece of the puzzle I need to factor in. Do you mind sharing what kind of scenarios your financial planner helped you model? I'm wondering if it would be worth the cost to get that professional guidance given how many moving parts there are to this decision.

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As someone who recently navigated this exact situation, I want to add a few practical tips that might help with your planning. First, create a Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you haven't already - you can see your estimated benefits and your husband's earnings record, which helps with planning. One strategy worth considering: if you're comfortable reducing your work hours instead of stopping completely, you might be able to stay under that $22,320 earnings limit while still claiming some survivor benefits early. For example, if you could reduce to part-time and earn around $20k, you'd get the full reduced survivor benefit without the earnings test penalty. Also, keep detailed records of your husband's work history and Social Security statements. When the time comes (hopefully far in the future), having organized paperwork will make the application process much smoother during what's already a difficult time. The timing coordination between stopping work, claiming benefits, and Medicare enrollment is crucial - I'd definitely recommend getting professional guidance to model all the scenarios, as the previous commenter suggested. The cost of a consultation could save you thousands in the long run.

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I'm 66 and facing this same decision in a couple of years, so I've been following this discussion with great interest. What really strikes me from reading everyone's experiences is how this goes far beyond just the math - there are so many personal factors that the break-even calculators simply can't account for. The stories about family members who waited and passed away early are particularly sobering. My father always told me "you never know what tomorrow brings," and while the 8% guaranteed increase sounds great on paper, there's real wisdom in the "bird in hand" philosophy that several people have mentioned. I'm especially grateful for the detailed discussion about tax implications and IRMAA calculations. @Ravi Sharma's breakdown of how Social Security benefits get taxed at different income levels was incredibly helpful, and @PixelPioneer's real-world example of how that $250 monthly difference shrinks to $160 after taxes really puts things in perspective. The psychological benefits that multiple people have mentioned - workplace confidence, peace of mind, freedom to make different work choices - these seem like legitimate factors that are hard to quantify but genuinely valuable. Having that guaranteed income stream while you're still healthy and able to enjoy it could be worth more than maximizing the dollar amount on paper. Thanks to everyone for sharing such personal insights. This kind of community wisdom is exactly what those of us approaching these decisions need alongside the official guidance and calculators.

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@Lauren Johnson - I completely agree with your observation about this going far beyond just the math! As someone who s'new to this community and these discussions, I ve'been amazed by the depth of real-world factors that don t'show up in any calculator or official guidance. What really resonates with me from this entire thread is how personal and nuanced these decisions truly are. The mathematical models provide a framework, but they can t'account for family health history, personal risk tolerance, quality of life priorities, or even the psychological benefits of financial security that several people have mentioned. I m'particularly struck by the recurring theme of uncertainty - whether it s'about longevity, health, or even future policy changes. When you re'making decisions about guaranteed benefits now versus potentially higher benefits later, all that uncertainty starts to weigh heavily in favor of taking what you can get while you know you can get it. The tax complexity discussion has also been eye-opening. It sounds like the real comparison isn t'just between gross benefit amounts, but between the actual net amounts after considering all the various taxes and adjustments. That s'a much more sophisticated analysis than most people probably do initially. Thank you to everyone in this thread for sharing such thoughtful perspectives. As someone still learning about these decisions, this has been incredibly educational!

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This has been such an incredibly valuable discussion to read through! As someone who's 65 and will be facing this exact decision in a few years, I'm struck by how much more complex this is than the simple "wait for maximum benefits" advice you often hear. What really stands out to me from everyone's experiences is the importance of looking at the NET benefit after taxes rather than just the gross amounts. @PixelPioneer's example of that $250 difference shrinking to $160 after taxes and Medicare premiums really drives home why you need to run the actual numbers for your specific situation. I'm also fascinated by the psychological aspects several people have mentioned - the confidence that comes with having guaranteed income, the peace of mind, and even the workplace dynamics. These "soft" benefits seem genuinely valuable even if they're hard to quantify. The family longevity stories really hit home too. While my family tends to live into their 80s and 90s, reading about @CosmicCaptain's brother and @Freya Thomsen's situation reminds you that statistics don't guarantee individual outcomes. Sometimes that "bird in hand" really is worth more than the promise of two in the bush. @Javier Torres - thank you for starting such a thoughtful discussion. Based on everything I've read here, it sounds like you have good reasons to consider filing at 69, especially given your income level and the tax implications. The most important thing seems to be making a decision that gives you peace of mind, whether that's maximizing dollars or maximizing enjoyment of those dollars while you're healthy.

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I'm deeply sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a parent is never easy, and having to navigate Social Security benefits during such a difficult time adds extra stress to an already overwhelming situation. The great news is that both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record simultaneously. This is actually one of the more family-friendly aspects of Social Security - multiple qualified survivors can draw benefits without reducing what the others receive. Your situation breaks down like this: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits (married 15 years, which exceeds the 10-year requirement, and never remarried) - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow (married to your father at the time of his death) Both will need to apply separately using Form SSA-10 and provide the necessary documentation: death certificate, their respective marriage certificates, and your mom will also need the divorce decree. One crucial point about timing: your mom at 67 can receive the full 100% survivor benefit, but your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims immediately. If your stepmother can afford to wait until closer to her full retirement age (66-67), she'd get significantly more. Before either applies, I'd strongly recommend they both check their own estimated benefits on my.ssa.gov to ensure the survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits - SSA pays whichever is higher, but not both. Your father earned these benefits through years of hard work, and both women are absolutely entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this process.

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Thank you so much, Lucy. Your explanation really helps clarify everything. I feel like I finally understand the full picture now. The fact that both my mom and stepmom can receive benefits without affecting each other is such a relief - I was worried there might be some kind of conflict between their claims. The timing advice about my stepmom is really important. That 19% difference between claiming at 62 vs waiting until full retirement age could mean thousands of dollars over the years. I'll definitely discuss this with her - she might be able to wait a bit longer if her current financial situation allows it. I'm going to help both of them set up those my.ssa.gov accounts this weekend to check their own benefit estimates first. It's good to know that step should come before applying for survivor benefits. Thank you for the reminder that my father earned these benefits through his hard work. That perspective really helps during what's been a very difficult few weeks for our whole family. Your compassionate response means more than you know.

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I'm so sorry for the loss of your father, Ravi. This must be an incredibly difficult time for your family, and trying to navigate Social Security benefits while grieving only adds to the stress. The good news is that yes, both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record at the same time. This is one of the few situations where multiple people can collect benefits from the same worker's record without affecting each other's benefit amounts. Here's what you need to know: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits since she was married to your father for 15 years (well over the 10-year minimum) and never remarried - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow since she was married to him at the time of his death - Both must apply separately using Form SSA-10 - Required documents include: death certificate, marriage certificates, and the divorce decree for your mom One important timing consideration: At 67, your mom can receive 100% of the survivor benefit. However, your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims now. If she can afford to wait closer to her full retirement age (around 66-67), she'd receive the full amount - that's a significant difference over time. Before either applies, I'd recommend they both check their benefit estimates on my.ssa.gov to make sure survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits, since SSA pays whichever is higher but not both. Your father worked hard to earn these benefits, and both women are entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this difficult process.

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