Can I work after SS disability converts to retirement at FRA without restrictions?
My brother has been on SSDI for about 8 years after a serious back injury. He's turning 67 next month, which I understand is his full retirement age (FRA). Someone at his doctor's office mentioned that his disability benefits will automatically convert to retirement benefits. He's feeling much better these days and wants to work part-time at our family store to keep busy. Under SSDI, I know there were all those earning limits and trial work periods that always worried him. But now that he'll be on retirement benefits instead, do those disability restrictions still apply? Can he work and earn whatever he wants without affecting his monthly payment? He's not looking to make much - maybe $800-1000 a month - but I don't want him to mess up his benefits.
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Anastasia Ivanova
Yes, once your brother reaches his Full Retirement Age (FRA) and his SSDI benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits, the disability work restrictions completely disappear. At FRA, the earnings test no longer applies, so he can earn any amount without it affecting his Social Security retirement benefits. This is one of the advantages of reaching that age milestone.The transition from SSDI to retirement happens automatically in the month he reaches 67 - he doesn't need to apply or do anything. The amount stays the same too, as his disability benefit simply becomes his retirement benefit.
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Diego Flores
That's such a relief! He's been so cautious about working at all because he was afraid of losing his benefits. Is there anything he needs to report to Social Security when he starts working, or can he just go ahead and start the job?
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Sean Murphy
my sister went thru this exact thing last year!! once u hit retirement age all those stupid SSDI rules go away!!! she works 3 days a week now at the library and doesn't worry about all that trial work period nonsense. she said its the best thing ever to not have to track her hours and worry about going over the limit!!
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Diego Flores
Thanks for sharing about your sister! That's exactly what my brother wants - just to work a bit without all the stress of counting dollars and worrying about reviews. Sounds like it worked out great for her!
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StarStrider
What you're describing actually sounds exactly like what happened with me! I had been on disability since 2015 after a major car accident and when I hit my full retirement age last year (I'm 66 and 8 months), the SSA letter said my
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Zara Malik
This is not entirely accurate. While it's true the disability work restrictions end, Medicare eligibility rules are different. If he's been on SSDI for more than 24 months, he qualifies for Medicare regardless of age. After converting to retirement, his Medicare continues uninterrupted, but he should check if his Medicare premiums might change based on his new income from working.
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StarStrider
Oh no I never said Medicare eligibility changes! I just meant his Medicare CONTINUES the same after the switch from disability to retirement. I was worried Medicare would stop when SSDI ended but it doesn't. Sorry if I wasn't clear!!
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Luca Marino
congrats to your bro! my dad did same thing. worked as crossing guard after his SSD became regular SS. extra $$ and no problems at all.
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Nia Davis
While others have correctly stated that your brother won't have the SSDI work restrictions after conversion to retirement benefits at FRA, there's one important consideration nobody has mentioned: If he plans to earn income, this could potentially affect the taxation of his Social Security benefits.Up to 85% of Social Security benefits become taxable when your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits) exceeds certain thresholds. For a single filer, taxation begins when this combined income exceeds $25,000.So while his $800-1000 monthly earnings won't affect his benefit amount, it could increase the portion of his benefits subject to income tax if his other income sources already put him near the threshold.
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Diego Flores
That's really helpful - I hadn't thought about the tax implications. His only other income is a small pension of about $850/month, so I'll need to figure out if the combined amounts would push him over that threshold. Might be worth talking to a tax person before he starts.
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Mateo Perez
THE SSA IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE about explaining this transition!! My husband was on disability for 12 years and when he hit FRA last year, they sent some TERRIFYING letter about his \
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Sean Murphy
omg yes those letters are SO SCARY!!! they make it sound like ur benefits are being cancelled when really nothing changes except the name of the program!!!
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Diego Flores
Thank you for the recommendation! We actually haven't received any letter yet about the transition, but his birthday is still a few weeks away. I'll keep that service in mind if we run into problems or have questions when the letter arrives. The SSA phone system is absolutely maddening.
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Zara Malik
I'd like to add some technical clarity that might be helpful. When SSDI converts to retirement benefits at FRA:1. The benefit amount remains exactly the same - there is no recalculation2. The rules that govern the benefit change completely3. All SSDI work incentives end (Trial Work Period, Extended Period of Eligibility, etc.)4. The retirement earnings test would normally apply until FRA, but since he's already at FRA, there is no earnings limit5. Continuing Disability Reviews (CDRs) no longer occurBasically, your brother is free to work as much or as little as he wants with no impact on his monthly benefit amount. This is one of the advantages of reaching FRA - complete freedom from the complex SSDI work rules.
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Diego Flores
Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! He'll be relieved to hear about no more disability reviews. Those always stressed him out terribly even though his condition was well-documented.
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StarStrider
WAIT NO ONE TOLD ME THE REVIEWS STOP TOO??? I've been on SSDI for 7 years and I have a review coming up next year according to my last letter. But I turn 66 and 10 months (my FRA) in 6 months. Are you saying I won't have to do that review after all because my benefits will convert to retirement??
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Zara Malik
That's correct. Once your benefits convert to retirement benefits at FRA, the Continuing Disability Reviews stop entirely. The review scheduled for next year will be automatically cancelled once you reach your FRA and convert to retirement benefits. This is because disability eligibility becomes irrelevant once you're receiving retirement benefits.
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StarStrider
THANK YOU!!! One less thing to worry about! Those reviews are so stressful even though my condition is permanent.
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Sean Murphy
does anyone know if this effects medicade too?? my cousins on both ssdi and medicade and shes turning 65 next yr
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Nia Davis
Your cousin's situation is a bit different since she's turning 65, not Full Retirement Age (which would be 66+). At 65, she'll become eligible for Medicare, but her SSDI won't automatically convert to retirement yet.Regarding Medicaid: When SSDI converts to retirement benefits, Medicaid eligibility doesn't automatically change, but it could be affected if she starts earning income that puts her above her state's Medicaid income limits. Medicaid has different rules in each state, so she should check with her local Medicaid office.Medicare eligibility will continue unchanged when SSDI converts to retirement benefits.
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Sean Murphy
ok thx for explaining!! its all so confusing i'll tell her to call her medicade office.
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Diego Flores
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses! This community is amazing. I've summarized what I learned to share with my brother:1. At FRA (67 for him), his SSDI automatically converts to retirement benefits with the same payment amount2. Once converted, he can work and earn any amount without affecting his benefits3. No more disability reviews to worry about4. Medicare continues unchanged5. We need to consider possible tax implications if his combined income exceeds certain thresholdsThis is honestly such a relief. He's been wanting to get back to some form of work for years but was always afraid of jeopardizing his benefits. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and expertise!
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