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Can I work without limits after converting from SSDI to retirement benefits at full retirement age?

I'm trying to help my brother understand his Social Security situation. He's been receiving SSDI for about 12 years due to a serious back injury, but he just turned 67 last month, which I believe means he automatically converted to regular retirement benefits. Now he's feeling somewhat better and wants to try working part-time at his friend's hardware store. Does anyone know if there are still earnings limits or other restrictions once you've aged out of disability into regular Social Security retirement? He's worried about losing his benefits if he earns too much. Also, does he need to notify SSA before he starts working? He can't seem to get through on the phone to ask these questions directly. Thanks for any guidance!

Good news for your brother! Once a person reaches their Full Retirement Age (FRA), which is 66 and X months depending on birth year, there are NO earning limits whatsoever. He can earn as much as he wants without any reduction to his Social Security retirement benefits. The automatic conversion from SSDI to retirement happens at FRA, so at 67, he's definitely on regular retirement benefits now. He should still report the work activity to SSA as a formality, but there will be no impact on his benefits regardless of how much he earns.

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Monique Byrd

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This is right! My husband went through the exact same thing last year. Once you hit full retirement age, work all you want! The SSA doesn't care anymore lol.

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Jackie Martinez

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I had a similar situation and learned the hard way to STILL REPORT EVERYTHING! Just because there's no earnings limit doesn't mean they don't want to know what you're doing. Your brother should call and tell them he's planning to return to work, even though it won't affect his payment amount. Better safe than sorry with these people.

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Maggie Martinez

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Thanks for the warning. Do you know if there's a specific form he needs to fill out to report working, or does he just need to call them?

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Lia Quinn

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The previous responders are correct about no earnings limits after Full Retirement Age, but I want to clarify a few points: 1. The conversion from SSDI to retirement benefits is automatic and seamless - the benefit amount stays exactly the same 2. While there's no earnings limit, he should report work activity to SSA for their records 3. If he's on Medicare due to his disability, that continues unchanged 4. He may want to check about any potential tax implications since more income might make a higher percentage of his Social Security benefits taxable This is actually one of the rare straightforward situations with Social Security!

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Haley Stokes

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so what about people who got on disability early? do they get less retirement than if they worked longer? my cousins been on ssdi since his 40s and i wonder if hes getting less now that hes retired age

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Asher Levin

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I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for THREE WEEKS about almost this exact same issue!!! Keep getting disconnected or waiting for hours. This is ridiculous. I'm 68 and switched from disability to regular social security last year, and now I'm trying to start a small online business, but no one will answer my questions about how it impacts my Medicare and if there's any forms I need to file first.

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Monique Byrd

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does anyone know if theres a difference with SSI? my mom is on SSI not SSDI and she wants to do some babysitting for cash. shes 68 now

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Lia Quinn

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SSI is completely different from SSDI and retirement benefits. SSI is needs-based and has strict income and asset limits at ANY age. Your mom should definitely report any babysitting income as it will likely reduce her SSI payment. Even at age 68, SSI recipients have to report all income because SSI is not a retirement or disability insurance program - it's a needs-based program with ongoing eligibility requirements.

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Serene Snow

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When I aged out of disability into retirement benefits, I found that not only could I work without limits, but my Medicare continued exactly the same. The only thing your brother needs to be aware of is potential tax implications if he makes a substantial amount of money. Depending on his combined income (including half of Social Security plus any other income), up to 85% of his Social Security benefits could become taxable. But that's only if he does quite well financially, which would be a good problem to have!

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Maggie Martinez

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Thank you! That's really helpful to know about the potential tax implications. I'll make sure he talks to his tax person before he starts making too much.

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Jackie Martinez

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btw you mentioned he cant get thru to SSA on the phone - tell him to try calling RIGHT when they open at 8am local time. thats the only way i can ever get through without waiting 2+ hours

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Asher Levin

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Even that doesn't work reliably anymore! I tried calling at 7:59 am for three days straight last month and still got the "all representatives are busy" message. The whole system is broken!

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Haley Stokes

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my cousin started getting disability checks when he was 52 and now hes 67 and getting regular social security. he works at walmart like 30 hours a week and nobody said nothing to him about it. he says he makes more now than he ever did before lol

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That's exactly how the system is designed to work. After Full Retirement Age, he can work as much as he wants with no penalty to his benefits. The key is that he reached his FRA, which is currently between 66-67 depending on birth year. Before that age, there are earnings limits that reduce benefits.

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Monique Byrd

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one more thing nobody mentioned - if hes been on SSDI for 12 years, he might be scared about losing his Medicare. tell him not to worry! Medicare continues exactly the same after converting to retirement benefits.

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Maggie Martinez

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Oh that's such a relief! He was definitely worried about that too. Thanks for mentioning it - I'll let him know right away.

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Lia Quinn

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To summarize for your brother: 1. At age 67, he's definitely reached his Full Retirement Age and converted automatically from SSDI to retirement benefits 2. He can earn unlimited income without any reduction in his Social Security benefits 3. He should still report his work activity to SSA as a courtesy and for their records 4. His Medicare coverage continues unchanged 5. The only potential impact is on taxation of his benefits if his combined income exceeds certain thresholds This is one of those rare situations where the news is all good! I'm glad he's feeling well enough to try working again.

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Maggie Martinez

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Thank you so much! This is exactly what we needed to know. I'll help him notify SSA before he starts the job, but it's great to hear he can earn without worrying about losing his benefits. Everyone has been so helpful!

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