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I'm in a tricky situation and need some clarity on my Social Security options. I recently applied for disability benefits but was told I don't have enough work credits on my own record. The SSA representative immediately suggested I apply based on my late husband's record instead. He passed away in 2010 at age 47. When he died, we had six children receiving survivor benefits totaling around $5,000 monthly. Currently, only his youngest son (16) is still receiving benefits (about $2,250/month). What I'm trying to figure out is: If I'm approved for disability on my husband's record, how would my benefit be calculated? And what happens when his son turns 18 in two years? I need to plan financially for that transition and understand what my monthly income might look like. Has anyone navigated this specific situation with survivor benefits and disability?
I just took the plunge and started collecting Social Security retirement at 62 last month (January 2025). Now I'm getting nervous about the earnings limit. I might need to pick up some part-time work at my neighbor's hardware store this summer. I've heard different numbers thrown around about how much I can earn before they start reducing my benefits. Also, totally different situation, but my brother is on SSDI and keeps telling me his earnings limit is different than mine. Is that true? The most confusing part for me is that I receive quarterly payments from a music publisher for jazz recordings my late father made in the 1960s. They're not huge (about $3,800/year total), but I'm worried they might count against my earnings limit. Anyone know if royalty payments count towards the SS earnings limit? Thanks for any clarity here. The SSA website is so confusing and I've been on hold for 2+ hours trying to get answers!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: if your benefits are reduced because you exceed the earnings limit, it's not money you permanently lose. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, SSA will recalculate your monthly benefit amount to give you credit for the months they withheld benefits. So you'll get a higher monthly payment after FRA to make up for some of those reductions. Also, for your first year of retirement, SSA sometimes applies a monthly earnings test rather than the annual one. You might want to ask about the "first year rule" when you speak with them.
They NEVER told me about getting the money back later!!! I've been at FRA for 2 years now and my benefit is still the same reduced amount. How do you get them to do this recalculation???
@Sofia Martinez - The recalculation should happen automatically, but sometimes SSA misses it or there are delays in their system. You ll'want to contact them directly to request a manual review of your earnings record. They ll'need to verify which months had benefits withheld due to the earnings test and then adjust your monthly benefit amount accordingly. You can also check your my Social Security account online to see if there s'any record of the adjustment. If you re'still having trouble getting through by phone, you might want to try visiting your local SSA office in person or use that Claimyr service @Ava Thompson mentioned earlier.
As someone who just went through this process last year, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help: 1) Keep detailed records of ALL your income sources throughout the year - wages, self-employment, and yes, even those royalty payments. Even though the royalties shouldn't count against your limit, having documentation will save you headaches if SSA ever questions anything. 2) If you do decide to take that hardware store job, ask your employer upfront about flexible scheduling. Since you're close to the $22,320 limit, you'll want to track your earnings carefully as you approach it. 3) One thing that caught me off guard - if you have any unused vacation pay or severance from a previous job that gets paid out after you start collecting benefits, that DOES count toward your earnings limit for the year it's paid, even if you earned it before retiring. 4) The "first year rule" mentioned earlier is really important for your situation since you just started benefits in January. In your first year of retirement, you can use a monthly test ($1,860/month for 2025) instead of the annual test, but only for months after you retire. This can be helpful if you had high earnings early in the year before starting benefits. Good luck with everything! The SSA phone wait times are absolutely brutal, so definitely consider that Claimyr service or try visiting your local office if you need to speak with someone directly.
Great questions! Let me clarify the first year rule for you - yes, since you started benefits in January 2025, you can use the monthly earnings test ($1,860/month) for each month from January onward, BUT only if it's more favorable than the annual test. You don't have to choose one or the other - SSA will automatically apply whichever test results in higher benefits for you. For tracking earnings, there's no specific SSA form you need to use throughout the year, but I'd recommend keeping: - Pay stubs from any employment - 1099s for self-employment income - Bank statements showing when payments were received - A simple spreadsheet with dates and amounts The key is being able to prove WHEN you received the income, since timing matters for the monthly vs annual test calculation. Also, make sure to report any significant changes in your work situation to SSA promptly - they'd rather adjust your benefits gradually than deal with overpayments later. You can report changes online through your my Social Security account or by calling (though we all know how that phone situation goes!). The vacation payout timing can definitely be tricky - just make sure you know exactly when that payment will hit your account so you can factor it into your earnings tracking.
Yes, exactly! Since you started benefits in January 2025, you can use the monthly earnings test for the remainder of 2025. This means for each month after January, you can earn up to $1,860 without any benefit reduction, regardless of your total annual earnings. For tracking and reporting - SSA doesn't require a specific form for ongoing tracking, but they do want you to report significant changes when they happen. You should call them (or visit your local office) if you expect to earn significantly more or less than what you initially reported when you applied. For your own records, I'd suggest keeping: - Pay stubs from the hardware store job - Any 1099s for the royalty payments (even though they don't count toward the limit) - Records of when you started/stopped working - Any severance or vacation payout documentation The key is being proactive about reporting changes rather than waiting until your annual wage report. This helps avoid those nasty overpayment situations that @Sofia Martinez experienced. One more tip: if you do go over the monthly limit in any given month, they ll'withhold benefits for that specific month, but it won t'affect your benefits in months where you stayed under the limit. It s'much more forgiving than the annual test in that way!
I'm planning to retire in September 2025, which is the same year I reach my full retirement age (FRA) in December. My financial advisor mentioned something about earnings limits being different in the year I reach FRA, but I'm getting conflicting information online. Some websites say there's a higher earnings limit that only counts income BEFORE the month I reach FRA, while others make it sound like I'm subject to the regular earnings test for the whole year. I'll make about $42,000 from January through August before I retire. Will this affect my Social Security benefits if I start collecting in September? I don't want to get hit with unexpected benefit reductions or have to pay anything back. Has anyone navigated this specific situation?
Your cousin is right! There is an earnings test calculator on the SSA website. Here's how to find it: 1. Go to ssa.gov 2. Search for "How Work Affects Your Benefits" 3. Look for the "Retirement Earnings Test Calculator" link It lets you enter your expected earnings and age to see if you'll be affected by the earnings limit.
I'm in a similar situation and found this thread really helpful! One thing I wanted to add - when you do contact SSA to confirm your earnings situation, make sure to ask them about how they'll handle your September benefit start date. Since you're retiring in September but your FRA isn't until December, they might need to adjust your first few benefit payments to account for the fact that you're technically still in your "FRA year" until December. Also, regarding the severance package - that usually doesn't count as "earnings" for the Social Security earnings test since it's not compensation for current work. But definitely confirm this when you speak with them, especially if any part of the severance is structured as consulting payments or continuation of salary. The peace of mind from getting official confirmation is totally worth the effort to reach them!
I'm navigating the confusing world of survivor benefits after losing my husband two months ago. I started taking my SS retirement benefits early at 62 (I'm now 73) and have been receiving about $1,650/month. My husband was on SSDI until he reached 66.5, then switched to regular retirement benefits. He passed away at 79 and was receiving approximately $3,275/month - almost double what I get. I'm wondering if I'm eligible to receive any portion of his higher benefit amount as his widow? The Social Security website mentions something about survivor benefits, but it's not clear if I qualify since I'm already receiving my own benefits and took them early. Has anyone been through this process? Would I need to switch completely to his benefit or can I get some kind of combination? Any help would be greatly appreciated during this difficult time.
I'm so glad to hear your update worked out! This is exactly why communities like this are so valuable - people helping each other navigate these complex government systems. Your experience will definitely help others who find themselves in similar situations. It's terrible that SSA doesn't proactively inform people about survivor benefits, but at least you were able to get it sorted out relatively quickly once you knew what to ask for. Wishing you all the best during this transition.
Sara, I'm so sorry for your loss and glad to see you were able to get this resolved! Your story really emphasizes how crucial it is for people to know about these benefits. As someone who works with seniors in my community, I see this situation far too often - people missing out on survivor benefits simply because no one tells them about it. For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation, I'd recommend also checking if you're eligible for any other widow/widower benefits like reduced Medicare premiums or property tax exemptions at the local level. Sometimes there are additional benefits beyond Social Security that can help during this difficult transition. Thank you for sharing your experience - it will definitely help others who find themselves facing similar circumstances.
For Medicare premium reductions, you'd want to contact Medicare directly or check Medicare.gov - they have programs like the Medicare Savings Program that can help with premiums and deductibles based on income. For property tax exemptions, you'll need to contact your local county assessor's office or tax collector, as these vary significantly by state and county. Some areas offer widow/widower exemptions, senior exemptions, or homestead exemptions that you might qualify for. Your local Area Agency on Aging is also a great resource - they often have benefits counselors who can help identify all the programs you might be eligible for in one place. The Social Security office typically only handles their own programs, so you'll likely need to reach out to these other agencies separately.
Great question! For Medicare premium reductions, you'd want to contact Medicare directly or check if you qualify for programs like Medicare Savings Programs (MSP) or Extra Help with prescription drug costs - these are handled through Social Security or your state Medicaid office. For property tax exemptions, that's typically handled at the county level through your local tax assessor's office, as these vary significantly by state and locality. Some areas offer homestead exemptions or senior/widow exemptions that can really help reduce property taxes. I'd suggest calling your county tax office directly - they're usually very helpful in explaining what's available in your area. The Social Security office unfortunately won't know about these local programs, so you'll need to reach out to the specific agencies that handle each benefit.
I've been thinking about getting a reverse mortgage to help with some home repairs and medical bills that have been piling up. My neighbor just got one and said it's been a huge help for her finances. But now I'm worried - will this extra money affect my Social Security retirement benefits? Could it cause my Medicare Part B premiums to go up? I'm 72 and living solely on Social Security (about $1,850/month) and a small pension ($325/month). I don't want to make a decision that ends up costing me more in the long run. Has anyone here gotten a reverse mortgage while on Social Security?
One more important thing! The reverse mortgage company will require you to stay current on property taxes, homeowners insurance, and home maintenance. If you don't, they can foreclose. Make sure you budget for these ongoing expenses with your SS benefits. That's where some seniors get into trouble with reverse mortgages.
Yes, I'm aware of those requirements. Thankfully I've never missed a property tax payment, and I keep up with my insurance. The home maintenance is actually why I need some of this money - to take care of the roof and bathroom now so they don't become bigger problems later. I have a monthly budget worked out that includes all these expenses from my regular income.
Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this same decision process two years ago. I was 69 and in a very similar financial situation - living on Social Security and a small pension, needed about $40k for home repairs and some medical debt. I can confirm what others have said - my Social Security benefits were completely unaffected, and my Medicare premiums stayed the same. The key thing that helped me was working with a HUD-approved counselor (which is mandatory anyway) who walked me through all the scenarios and helped me understand the true costs. One tip: if you're comparing lenders, pay close attention to the "Total Annual Loan Cost" (TALC) rates they're required to show you - this gives you a better picture of the real cost over time than just looking at interest rates. Also, some lenders offer a "line of credit" option where you only take what you need when you need it, which can save on interest charges compared to taking a big lump sum upfront. The peace of mind of having my roof fixed and medical bills paid off has been worth it for me. Just make sure you're working with a reputable lender and have someone you trust review everything with you. Good luck with your decision!
Andre Dupont
One more important thing to know: If you're approved for disabled widow's benefits, you'll be automatically enrolled in Medicare after 24 months on benefits, regardless of your age. This is a significant benefit that can help with your healthcare costs. Also, when you reach your full retirement age (probably 67 in your case), your benefit will automatically convert to a regular widow's benefit, which will be 100% of your husband's PIA instead of the 71.5% you receive as a disabled widow. This increase happens automatically.
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Carmen Sanchez
AuthorThat's excellent news about the Medicare and the automatic increase at retirement age! No one at SSA mentioned that to me. This forum has been incredibly helpful - I feel much more prepared now.
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Ethan Davis
Just wanted to add some practical advice from my experience helping my sister with her disabled widow's benefits application. Make sure you gather ALL your employment records too, not just medical records. SSA needs to verify when you stopped working consistently to establish your disability onset date. Also, if you have any doctors who treated you back in 2014-2015, try to contact them directly for records - sometimes medical facilities purge older records after 7-10 years. One more tip: keep detailed notes of every phone call and visit with SSA, including names and dates. This helped us tremendously when we had to follow up on her application status. Best of luck with your application, Carmen!
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