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This is such valuable information everyone! As someone who's been dreading navigating all this retirement stuff, this thread has been a lifesaver. I had no idea about the spousal benefit rules or how the timing works between spouses. My situation is probably pretty common - I'm the higher earner and my spouse worked part-time. It sounds like we need to think strategically about when each of us claims rather than just both filing at our FRAs. Are there any good resources for running different claiming scenarios to see what makes the most financial sense for couples in our situation?

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Great question! There are several tools that can help you model different claiming scenarios: 1. The SSA's own retirement estimator at ssa.gov lets you see benefits at different claiming ages 2. AARP has a Social Security Benefits Calculator that's pretty user-friendly for couples 3. Some financial advisors use more sophisticated software like Social Security Analyzer or Maximize My Social Security The key variables to consider are: - Life expectancy estimates for both spouses - Cash flow needs (do you need income immediately?) - Survivor benefits (the higher earner's decision affects the survivor benefit) - Tax implications of the timing Since you're the higher earner, delaying until 70 could maximize both your benefit and the potential survivor benefit for your spouse. But if you need the income or have health concerns, claiming earlier might make sense. I'd recommend running a few scenarios - it's pretty eye-opening to see how much the timing can affect your lifetime benefits!

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This has been such an informative thread! I'm in a similar boat - born in 1961 so my FRA is 67, and my husband was born in 1959 (FRA 66 and 10 months). What's really helpful is seeing how the math works out for the reductions and increases. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from my financial planner: if you're still working when you reach FRA, make sure you understand the earnings test. Before your FRA, if you earn too much, they temporarily reduce your benefits. But once you hit your FRA, you can earn unlimited income without any benefit reduction, AND they recalculate to give you credit for any benefits that were withheld due to earnings. Also, don't forget that your highest 35 years of earnings are used to calculate your benefit. If you're still working and earning more than you did in earlier years, those higher earnings can actually increase your future benefit amount even after you've already started collecting! The system is definitely complex, but threads like this really help break it down into understandable pieces. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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This is such great additional information, thank you! I didn't know about the earnings test recalculation - that's really important for people who might still be working part-time after their FRA. The point about the highest 35 years is something I need to look into more. I'm wondering if working a few more years at my current salary (which is higher than what I made 20-30 years ago) would meaningfully boost my benefit calculation. It sounds like there might be some real advantages to working longer beyond just the delayed retirement credits. Does anyone know if there's a way to see what your current "highest 35 years" calculation looks like, or do you have to estimate it yourself?

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I'm glad you asked this question because it's such an important topic that affects so many families! Based on everything I've learned about Social Security, you WILL receive your husband's full age-70 benefit amount ($3,750) as your survivor benefit, not just his FRA amount. This is one of the biggest advantages of delaying benefits - it creates a higher "insurance policy" for the surviving spouse. The key thing to remember is that survivor benefits include all delayed retirement credits (DRCs) that were earned by waiting past full retirement age. Since your husband's benefit is significantly higher than yours, you'd switch to receiving his amount when the time comes. I'd recommend calling SSA directly to get written confirmation of this for your specific situation, just for peace of mind. Also, make sure you keep important documents like your marriage certificate easily accessible for when you eventually need to apply. The process can't be done online, so you'll need to call or visit an office, and having everything ready will make it much smoother. Your husband made a smart financial decision that will benefit both of you!

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This is such valuable information, thank you! As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, I really appreciate how clearly you explained the difference between FRA amounts and the full delayed retirement credits. It's reassuring to know that delaying benefits truly does provide that extra protection for surviving spouses. I'll definitely follow your advice about calling SSA for written confirmation - having that documentation would give me great peace of mind for planning purposes.

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This is exactly the kind of question I had when my husband and I were doing our Social Security planning! The good news is that yes, you will receive his full age-70 benefit amount as your survivor benefit. The delayed retirement credits he earned by waiting until 70 become part of your survivor benefit - that's the whole point of the delay strategy when there's a significant difference between spouses' benefits. I went through a similar decision process with my financial planner, and she emphasized that delaying benefits is essentially purchasing a higher survivor benefit that lasts for life. In your case, that's an extra $1,510 per month ($3,750 vs your current $2,240) - a substantial difference that will really matter for your financial security. One practical tip I learned: start organizing all your important documents now (marriage certificate, both of your Social Security statements, etc.) in one easily accessible place. When the time comes to apply for survivor benefits, you'll need these documents and the process will be much smoother if everything is ready. The application can't be done online, so you'll either need to call SSA or visit an office in person. Your husband really did make the right choice for both of you!

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Thank you for sharing your experience with Social Security planning! As someone who's relatively new to navigating all these benefit rules, it's really helpful to hear from people who have actually gone through the decision-making process with professional guidance. The way you explained it as "purchasing a higher survivor benefit" really makes the strategy click for me. I'm definitely going to start getting my documents organized now rather than waiting - that's such practical advice that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. It sounds like proper planning now can save a lot of stress and complications later when you're already dealing with grief.

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I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is such a difficult time and it's kind of you to help navigate these complicated issues. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the most important thing is to report his death to SSA immediately - don't wait even a few days. The payment tomorrow should be legitimate since it's for September when he was alive the whole month, but definitely don't touch that money until you confirm with SSA. One thing I'd add is to keep detailed records of every conversation with SSA - date, time, who you spoke with, and what was discussed. Government agencies can be disorganized and having your own paper trail can save a lot of headaches later. Also consider having a close family member or friend help with some of these calls since dealing with bureaucracy while grieving is overwhelming. Take care of yourselves during this process.

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This is really thoughtful advice, especially about keeping detailed records. I hadn't thought about documenting every conversation with SSA, but given what others have shared about the confusion and delays, that sounds crucial. Having someone help with the calls is a great suggestion too - my mother-in-law is barely functional right now with grief. I think I'll offer to make the initial calls for her if she's comfortable with that. Thank you for the practical tips and the kind words.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. This is incredibly overwhelming to deal with during such a difficult time. From what I understand about SSA procedures, you'll want to report his death within 24-48 hours if possible. The funeral home should handle this automatically, but definitely follow up to confirm they did. The payment hitting tomorrow should be legitimate since SSA pays in arrears - that October 1st payment is actually for September when he was alive the entire month. However, I'd recommend not touching his portion until you get confirmation from SSA that it won't be reclaimed. For your mother-in-law's survivor benefits, she'll likely be eligible for 100% of his $2,750 benefit (instead of her current $1,200) if she's at full retirement age. This is a significant increase that will help her financially. The key is applying for survivor benefits as soon as possible after reporting his death, since there can be limits on retroactive payments. Make sure to gather the documents others mentioned: death certificate, marriage certificate, both SSN cards, and banking info. And definitely keep detailed notes of every interaction with SSA - dates, times, names, reference numbers. The process can be frustrating but the outcome will provide her with much-needed financial stability.

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I'm new to this community but want to add my voice to this discussion because I went through the exact same confusing situation when my mother passed away in early 2024. About 6 weeks after her death, my brother and I each received checks from US Treasury for $89 with absolutely no explanation. Like many of you, we were completely baffled. Our family attorney initially suggested it might be related to the Social Security death benefit, but after reading this thread, I now understand that was incorrect advice. The $255 death benefit has very specific eligibility requirements that definitely don't include adult children like us. Based on all the experiences shared here, I'm convinced these were underpayments from my mother's final Social Security benefits. She passed away on the 12th of the month, so there was likely some prorated amount due for her final payment that took time for the system to process and distribute to next of kin. What strikes me most about this thread is how universal this experience seems to be - so many families receiving mystery Treasury checks after a parent's death, with no documentation or explanation, leading to confusion and incorrect assumptions. This appears to be a widespread communication failure by SSA that's causing unnecessary stress for grieving families. I think we should collectively advocate for better transparency from Social Security. A simple explanation letter accompanying these payments would eliminate so much confusion and worry during an already difficult time. Has anyone here actually tried contacting their representatives about this issue?

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Welcome to the community, and I'm sorry for the loss of your mother. Your experience is unfortunately very typical based on what we've all been discussing here. I haven't personally contacted my representative yet, but after reading through all these similar stories, I'm seriously considering it. The fact that this is such a common experience suggests it's a systemic issue that could be easily fixed with better communication from SSA. It's really striking how the pattern is always the same - Treasury checks appearing 6-8 weeks after death with no explanation, confused families, and incorrect information from attorneys who aren't SSA specialists. A simple form letter explaining "This payment represents Social Security benefit underpayments due to [deceased's name] for [time period]" would solve this problem for thousands of families. Maybe if enough of us contact our representatives about this communication gap, we could actually get some positive change. Grieving families shouldn't have to play detective to figure out what mystery government payments are for.

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I'm new to this community and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful! I went through almost the identical situation when my father passed away last fall. About 7 weeks after his death, my sister and I each received Treasury checks for $94 with zero explanation. Like so many others here, we were completely puzzled and our estate attorney incorrectly told us it was some kind of Social Security death benefit distribution. After reading through all these similar experiences, I'm now confident these were underpayments from his final month of Social Security benefits. What really bothers me is how this seems to be such a common experience across the country, yet SSA apparently hasn't addressed the communication problem. It would be so simple to include a brief explanation with these payments - even just a memo line on the check saying "SS benefit underpayment" would eliminate most of the confusion. I'm definitely planning to contact my representative's office about this after seeing how widespread this issue is. When you have this many families going through the same confusing experience, it's clearly a systemic problem that needs to be addressed. Grieving families have enough to deal with without having to solve mysteries about unexpected government payments. Has anyone had any luck getting clearer information directly from SSA about these types of payments? I'm curious if there's a specific department or process for explaining post-death benefit adjustments.

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and your experience mirrors mine exactly. When my grandmother passed away in late 2023, my mom and her two siblings each received similar unexplained Treasury checks about 6 weeks later - $87 each. We had the same confusion and got the same incorrect "death benefit" explanation from our attorney. What's really frustrating is that several people in this thread have mentioned successfully getting explanations from SSA when they called, but it required multiple attempts and hours on hold. There should be a dedicated line or online portal for these types of post-death benefit questions instead of forcing grieving families to navigate the regular customer service maze. I think contacting our representatives is a great idea. This thread alone shows at least a dozen families who've experienced this exact same communication failure. If we all reach out to our local offices about this issue, maybe we can get some attention on what seems like a really straightforward problem to fix. A simple explanation letter would save so much confusion and stress during an already difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your neighbor's loss. This is such a difficult time to be dealing with these complicated benefit rules. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - she should also ask SSA about any potential benefits from her husband's employer. Some companies provide survivor benefits or life insurance that aren't related to Social Security. Also, if he was a veteran, she might be eligible for VA survivor benefits which have different rules than SSA. It's worth checking all possible sources of support during this incredibly challenging period. The fact that you're helping her navigate this shows what a caring neighbor you are!

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Thank you for those additional suggestions! I hadn't thought about checking with his employer or potential VA benefits. He did work for a large manufacturing company for most of his career, so there might be some life insurance or pension survivor benefits there. I don't think he was a veteran, but it's definitely worth exploring all options. She's lucky to have people looking out for her during such a heartbreaking time. I really appreciate everyone's advice here - this community has been so helpful in understanding what can be a very confusing system.

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I'm really sorry to hear about your neighbor's situation. Losing a spouse is devastating enough without having to navigate these complex benefit rules. From what everyone has shared here, it sounds like the main takeaways are: 1) She'll likely have to wait until age 60 for survivor benefits unless she qualifies for disability exceptions, 2) She should definitely get a second opinion from SSA and ask specifically about disabled widow benefits given her back injury, 3) She should keep all his documentation safe for when she does become eligible, and 4) Creating a my Social Security account will help her plan ahead. The earnings limit issue that Omar mentioned is also crucial to keep in mind for when she does reach 60 if she's still working. It might be worth her consulting with a Social Security disability attorney just to make sure there aren't any options being overlooked - many offer free consultations. Wishing her strength during this difficult time.

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