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Haley Stokes

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has anyone used those free benefit calculater tools online? are they trustworthy or just trying to sell u something later?

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Lia Quinn

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Many online calculators provide reasonable estimates but lack the nuance of your complete earnings history. Some financial advisors offer more comprehensive analysis. Be wary of

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Social Security survivor benefits questions - FRA widow with no application update after 45+ days

My wife passed away unexpectedly from complications of diabetes on November 12, 2024. She was 67 and had been receiving her Social Security retirement benefits since 65 (2022). I reached full retirement age this past June but never filed for my own benefits since they would be significantly lower than what I'd get as a survivor (her career was in healthcare administration while I worked mostly in education). I applied for survivor benefits just two days after her passing (November 14) and had my phone interview on December 3rd. They received our marriage certificate (we were married 20 years) and her death certificate by December 10th according to the rep I spoke with. It's been over 45 days now and I haven't heard anything. When I called to check status, they just said there's a backlog and it could take up to 90 days to process. Her last SS payment was deposited on November 22nd, and I'm assuming they'll reclaim it since she passed before the month ended. Does anyone have recent experience with survivor benefits processing times? I have no idea what to expect for the monthly amount - will I receive her full benefit or some reduced amount? I also understand there's a one-time $255 death benefit that will be included. Additionally, they asked about previous marriages. I was married before for 16 years (divorced in 2001). My ex-wife started her SS benefits at 62 in 2020. Would this affect my survivor benefits from my late wife in any way? The SSA rep mentioned it but didn't explain why it mattered.

You need an appointment. Their website lets you schedule it. But when I went they were taking walk-ins too if you got there early, but the wait was pretty long.

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Ravi Choudhury

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Regarding your question about notification before they reclaim the payment - no, they typically don't provide advance notice. The Treasury Department electronically withdraws the funds directly from the financial institution. This is why it's important to keep sufficient funds in the account to avoid overdraft fees. Also, I wanted to clarify about the month of death benefits since there's some confusion in the comments. The rule is: - Social Security benefits are paid in the month following the month they're due for - A person must live through the entire month to be entitled to that month's payment - Since your wife passed in November, the November payment she received was her October benefit - This payment is proper and won't be reclaimed - However, since she didn't live through all of November, she wasn't entitled to a November benefit (which would have been paid in December) As a survivor, your benefits would typically start with December (paid in January). But since there's a processing delay, you'll eventually receive back payments for all months they owe you.

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Ava Johnson

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Sorry but this is EXACTLY why I tell everyone to be VERY careful about taking early retirement!!! Your dad lost THOUSANDS by claiming at 62! His benefit would be at least $4500-5000 if he had waited until 70!!! And now your mom might get less survivor benefits because of his decision!!! Social Security is SO COMPLICATED and the govt makes it IMPOSSIBLE to understand on purpose!!!

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ElectricDreamer

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ppl take early ss for lots of reasons tho... maybe he had health issues or needed the $ right away?? not everyone can wait till 70

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Sofia Perez

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! Based on your advice, I've talked with my mom and we're going to: 1. Calculate what 100% of dad's PIA would be (vs his reduced benefit) 2. Compare that to her current SSDI amount 3. Make sure she understands she'll need to apply for survivor benefits if/when the time comes It's a relief to know she'd have options if something happens to my dad. The divorce has been stressful enough without worrying about financial insecurity. I appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and personal experiences!

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Dmitry Smirnov

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That sounds like a solid plan. One additional suggestion: your mother should create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if she hasn't already. This will allow her to see her own earnings record and benefit estimates. While it won't show potential survivor benefits, it's still helpful to have all her current information organized and accessible. It will make the application process smoother if/when she needs to apply for survivor benefits in the future.

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Jean Claude

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@system_critic maybe rules different in different states? i definitely walked in to hartford office in february. but yeah they said they prefer appointments now

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Charity Cohan

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You're right - I just checked and some offices do still allow limited walk-ins for certain services. The Boston office where I went is fully appointment-only. OP should definitely call their specific office to check.

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Annabel Kimball

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Update: I applied online last night and it was actually pretty easy! The system let me select April as my start month. I had to upload scans of my documents, but that wasn't too difficult. Thanks everyone for steering me in the right direction!

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Josef Tearle

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Great news! Make sure to print or save a copy of your confirmation page. You should receive an email confirmation as well, but it's always good to have backup documentation. SSA will likely call you within the next 1-2 weeks to verify some information. Congratulations on your retirement!

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Elijah Brown

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My neighbor did somethng like this and regretted it later. Just my 2 cents

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Zoe Walker

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One more important factor to consider: if you claim your benefit early at 64, and your husband passes away in the future, your survivor benefit would be affected. As a widow, you would be eligible for up to 100% of what your husband was receiving (including any delayed retirement credits), but if you had claimed your own benefit early, your survivor benefit would be reduced. This is one reason why, in couples with significant benefit differences, financial advisors often recommend that the lower-earning spouse consider claiming early while the higher-earning spouse delays as long as possible. This maximizes the survivor benefit protection.

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Emily Thompson

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I hadn't even thought about survivor benefits! That's a really important consideration. Since my husband is 5 years older than me, I should definitely be thinking about how my decisions now affect potential survivor benefits later. This gives me a lot to think about.

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Jessica Nguyen

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If you're concerned about budgeting, you should know that your Part B premium can change yearly. The $217.80 you're paying now (which indicates you're in one of the IRMAA brackets) will likely change next January when rates are adjusted. Also, if your income drops significantly, you can file Form SSA-44 for a reduction in your IRMAA amount due to a life-changing event.

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Cameron Black

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That's really helpful to know! My income actually did drop this year after I fully retired. I'll look into that form. Do you know if I can submit it online or do I need to mail it?

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Jessica Nguyen

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Unfortunately, Form SSA-44 can't be submitted online. You'll need to either mail it with supporting documentation or take it to your local Social Security office. Calling ahead to make an appointment is recommended if you go in person.

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Isaiah Thompson

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check ur mySocialSecurity acct online it usually shows ur next payment amount

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Cameron Black

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Thanks, I just checked and it doesn't show the deduction yet. Maybe it's too early since my Medicare doesn't start until April.

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Carmella Fromis

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congrats on getting approved! my process took almost 2 years and dealing with the LTD company was actually harder than getting SSDI approved lol. make sure you get everything in writing from both ssdi and LTD about how they're calculating things.

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LongPeri

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Thanks! I was actually surprised mine went through relatively quickly. I had really thorough medical documentation from three specialists. But now I'm realizing the LTD situation might be the harder part to navigate. I'll definitely get everything in writing.

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Has anyone ever got their lawyer to negotiate with the LTD company? My cousin said his lawyer helped him keep more of his backpay by arguing something about the contract terms.

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Liv Park

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Some SSDI attorneys will assist with LTD offset issues, but many won't as it falls outside their standard services. If your attorney is willing to help, they might be able to review the policy language and identify potential arguments - such as whether certain benefits should be excluded from offset calculations, or whether the calculation method being used adheres to the policy terms. However, this would typically require a separate fee arrangement as it's not part of the standard SSDI representation.

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Jamal Carter

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I STILL dont trust what the SSA says about anything!!! My neighbor got hit with an 'overpayment' notice because they claimed he earned too much while getting SS, but it was from selling his boat, NOT from working!!! He had to fight for MONTHS to get it straightened out. The SSA computers dont know the difference sometimes and then YOUR stuck with the mess!!! Be careful!!!

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AstroExplorer

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That's concerning and unfortunately not uncommon. The best protection is to keep good records. If the property sale is reported to the IRS (via a 1099-S form), the SSA's computer system might flag it incorrectly. If that happens, you'd need to request a reconsideration and provide documentation showing it was a capital gain, not earned income. It's helpful to keep the closing documents from the sale handy just in case.

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Liam O'Donnell

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Good news about the property sale! Just remember that even though it won't affect your SS benefits, you'll still have to pay capital gains tax on the sale. Hope you've owned it for more than a year so you get the lower tax rate!

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Zoe Alexopoulos

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Yes, we've owned it for over 40 years, so it should qualify for the long-term capital gains rate. And I'll set aside some of the proceeds for the taxes. Thanks for the reminder!

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Giovanni Marino

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good luck!!!! bring a NOTEPAD and write down everything they tell you and get the reps NAME!!!!! trust me on this one

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Sofia Rodriguez

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Please do update us! I'm curious how much additional benefit you might get. I ended up with about $340 extra per month which has been really helpful with inflation being so high lately.

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Laila Fury

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Just to add some clarity on how SSA actually applies the earnings test in your situation: 1. They'll look at your total earnings January-April (before FRA) 2. If those earnings exceed $62,160 (which yours don't at $25,000), they'd withhold $1 in benefits for every $3 above the threshold 3. The withholding would be applied to your monthly benefits starting from January 4. Once you reach FRA in May, no further withholding occurs regardless of earnings 5. At your FRA, SSA automatically adjusts your ongoing benefit amount to give you credit for any months benefits were withheld But since you're well under the threshold, this won't apply to you at all. You'll receive your full benefit amount with no reductions.

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Hugo Kass

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my dad just went thru this! he said make sure you tell them you reached FRA when you call because sometimes the customer service people get confused about which rule applies to you. he had to call back 3 times to get someone who understood the rule correctly lol

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