Social Security survivor benefits questions - FRA widow with no application update after 45+ days
My wife passed away unexpectedly from complications of diabetes on November 12, 2024. She was 67 and had been receiving her Social Security retirement benefits since 65 (2022). I reached full retirement age this past June but never filed for my own benefits since they would be significantly lower than what I'd get as a survivor (her career was in healthcare administration while I worked mostly in education). I applied for survivor benefits just two days after her passing (November 14) and had my phone interview on December 3rd. They received our marriage certificate (we were married 20 years) and her death certificate by December 10th according to the rep I spoke with. It's been over 45 days now and I haven't heard anything. When I called to check status, they just said there's a backlog and it could take up to 90 days to process. Her last SS payment was deposited on November 22nd, and I'm assuming they'll reclaim it since she passed before the month ended. Does anyone have recent experience with survivor benefits processing times? I have no idea what to expect for the monthly amount - will I receive her full benefit or some reduced amount? I also understand there's a one-time $255 death benefit that will be included. Additionally, they asked about previous marriages. I was married before for 16 years (divorced in 2001). My ex-wife started her SS benefits at 62 in 2020. Would this affect my survivor benefits from my late wife in any way? The SSA rep mentioned it but didn't explain why it mattered.
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Ravi Choudhury
I'm sorry for your loss. Regarding your questions: 1) Processing times are definitely taking longer right now - 45-90 days is unfortunately common for survivor benefits. The backlog is significant. 2) Since you're at FRA, you qualify for 100% of your wife's benefit amount. You won't receive a reduced amount as long as you've reached your full retirement age (which you have). 3) Your previous marriage won't affect your entitlement to survivor benefits from your wife of 20 years. They probably asked as part of their standard verification process, and potentially because you might have been eligible for divorced spouse benefits from that marriage too (if it lasted 10+ years). 4) Yes, they will reclaim the payment made after her death. When benefits are processed, you'll receive any back payments owed to you from the month after she passed away, plus the $255 death benefit. Hope this helps. The waiting is definitely the hardest part.
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Isabella Silva
•Thank you for this information! It's reassuring to know I should receive 100% of her benefit amount since I'm at FRA. Does anyone know if they notify you before taking back that final payment? It was deposited to our joint account which I'm still using, and I'm worried about potential overdraft if they withdraw it without warning.
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CosmosCaptain
When my husband died last year it took almost 75 days to get my survivors benefits. SS is really backed up right now! And yes they take back the last payment... they did it suddenly with no notice and it caused me an overdraft fee!!!! Make sure you keep enough $ in your account
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Freya Johansen
•This is exactly what happened to my mother too! It's ridiculous that they don't give you ANY notice before they just take money back from your account. The whole system needs an overhaul. She had to wait 68 days for her survivor benefits to start coming in, and in the meantime they just yanked money from her account without warning. How are seniors supposed to manage when the SSA treats them this way?!
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Omar Fawzi
My mom waited almost 3 months for survivors benefits after my dad passed in August. They're super slow right now. And yes you'll get 100% of her benefit since your at FRA. Good luck!
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Isabella Silva
•Thanks for sharing your mom's experience. Did they eventually pay her retroactively from the date of your dad's passing? I'm trying to budget for the next couple months with this uncertainty hanging over me.
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Chloe Wilson
Just to clarify a few technical points about survivor benefits: 1. As a widow at FRA, you're entitled to 100% of your deceased wife's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) or what she was receiving at death, whichever is higher. 2. The benefit actually begins the month of death if the death occurs any day except the last day of the month. Since your wife passed on November 12th, you're entitled to a survivor benefit for November (though it will be adjusted if she already received her November payment). 3. Regarding your previous marriage, this has no impact on survivor benefits from your most recent marriage. However, if your ex-spouse's benefit amount is somehow higher than your deceased wife's, you could potentially claim on that record instead - though this is relatively rare. 4. The $255 death benefit will be included with your first payment. 5. Regarding reclamation of payments - yes, they will take back her final payment if she wasn't entitled to it. This usually happens through the financial institution without notice. The processing delays are unfortunately very common right now. Make sure you keep detailed records of all communications with SSA during this time.
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Diego Mendoza
•Are you SURE about getting benefits for the month of death???? When my husband died they told me you only get benefits starting from the month AFTER death. And I didn't get anything for the actual month he died even though it was on the 3rd of the month. This is so confusing!!!
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Anastasia Romanov
Try using Claimyr to get through to a live agent faster at SSA. I was on hold for HOURS trying to check on my survivors claim last month, then found this service at claimyr.com that got me connected to an agent in about 15 minutes. Saved me so much frustration! There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU When I finally talked to someone, they told me my claim was just sitting there waiting to be assigned to a processor. After I called, it seemed to move things along and I got my approval letter about a week later.
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Isabella Silva
•I'll check that out, thanks. At this point I'd pay anything to just get a straight answer about my claim status.
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Omar Fawzi
they pay retroactive from the month after death not the month OF death that other person is wrong
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Chloe Wilson
•You're partly right, but it's more nuanced. For retirement and disability benefits, they're not payable for the month of death, regardless of when in the month the person dies. However, for survivor benefits, the first month of entitlement can sometimes be the month of death. This depends on whether the deceased was entitled to benefits for the month of death. If the deceased received a benefit for their month of death (which is determined by whether they died on the last day of the month or earlier), then the survivor's first month of entitlement is generally the following month. If the deceased was not entitled to a benefit for their month of death (died on last day of month), then the survivor can receive benefits for that month. It gets complicated, which is why there's so much confusion on this topic.
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CosmosCaptain
@original poster YES they pay retroactive back to when you applied. My mom got a nice lump sum when they FINALLY processed her claim. Hang in there!!!!
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Freya Johansen
The whole system is BROKEN!!! My father-in-law waited 97 days - that's more than 3 MONTHS - to get his survivor benefits after my mother-in-law passed. And SSA took back her final payment without ANY warning causing multiple bill payments to bounce. Then they had the nerve to tell him he should have been "prepared" for this! How exactly are seniors supposed to prepare when SSA gives ZERO information about timelines or procedures? It's absolutely disgraceful how our government treats older Americans.
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Isabella Silva
•97 days is outrageous. I'm already anxious about bills coming due in January. Did your father-in-law do anything special to finally get his claim processed, or did it just eventually come through on its own?
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Anastasia Romanov
I had a similar waiting period after my husband died last March. It took about 10 weeks to get everything processed. They did eventually backpay to the appropriate month, but the waiting was really stressful. One thing that helped me was going to my local SSA office in person rather than just calling. I know that's not possible for everyone, but if you can do it, sometimes face-to-face gets better results than phone calls.
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Isabella Silva
•That's a good suggestion. There's an office about 30 minutes from me. Did you need an appointment or could you just walk in?
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Anastasia Romanov
You need an appointment. Their website lets you schedule it. But when I went they were taking walk-ins too if you got there early, but the wait was pretty long.
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Ravi Choudhury
Regarding your question about notification before they reclaim the payment - no, they typically don't provide advance notice. The Treasury Department electronically withdraws the funds directly from the financial institution. This is why it's important to keep sufficient funds in the account to avoid overdraft fees. Also, I wanted to clarify about the month of death benefits since there's some confusion in the comments. The rule is: - Social Security benefits are paid in the month following the month they're due for - A person must live through the entire month to be entitled to that month's payment - Since your wife passed in November, the November payment she received was her October benefit - This payment is proper and won't be reclaimed - However, since she didn't live through all of November, she wasn't entitled to a November benefit (which would have been paid in December) As a survivor, your benefits would typically start with December (paid in January). But since there's a processing delay, you'll eventually receive back payments for all months they owe you.
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