Social Security survivor benefits at 60 when I was higher earner than my deceased husband - how will this affect my own benefits at FRA?
I'm devastated and trying to navigate SS benefits after my husband passed away last week. He had just started receiving his Social Security retirement benefits 4 months ago when he turned 62. I'm currently 60 and was the higher earner throughout our careers. We would have celebrated our 32nd anniversary next month. I'm trying to understand if I qualify for survivor benefits now at age 60, and if there's also that one-time death benefit payment ($255 I think?) I've heard about. My biggest question is - if I take survivor benefits now, will this negatively impact my own retirement benefits when I reach my full retirement age (67)? Since I was the higher earner, I'm trying to maximize what I'll eventually get. I've scheduled a call with Social Security for Monday, but I want to go in with some understanding of my options. The whole system seems really complicated and I'm overwhelmed with everything right now. Anyone gone through something similar or have advice?
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Makayla Shoemaker
I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, you are eligible for survivor benefits at age 60, though they will be reduced since you're claiming before your FRA. The good news is that taking survivor benefits will NOT affect your own retirement benefit. You can actually employ a smart strategy here: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits now at age 60 based on your husband's record 2. Let your own benefits continue to grow until 70 if possible 3. Switch to your own record when it exceeds the survivor benefit amount And yes, you're also eligible for the one-time death payment of $255. Make sure to apply for this within 2 years of his passing. When you call SSA, ask specifically about the "restricted application" strategy for survivors.
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Mason Stone
•Thank you so much for this information. I didn't realize I could take one benefit now and switch later. That sounds like it could really help financially right now. Do you know if the survivor benefit would be based on what he was already receiving, or what he would have received at his FRA?
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Christian Bierman
PLEASE don't wait for your phone appointment! Call them NOW at 1-800-772-1213 and tell them it's to report a death. They've separated this from regular calls so you can get through faster. The death benefit is only $255 but you need to apply within 2 years. Also, bring your marriage certificate, his death certificate, both your SSNs, and his recent benefit statements if you have them. The entire SSA system is EXTREMELY backed up right now!
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Mason Stone
•Thank you for the urgency check. I do have all those documents ready. I've been trying the 800 number but keep getting busy signals or disconnected. I'm going to try again right now.
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Emma Olsen
so sorry about your husband passing away. my mom did something like this when my dad died. she took the survivors at 60 and then switched to her own at 66 (her FRA was different). it worked out really well for her. the $255 death benefit is nothing but still worth getting.
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Mason Stone
•Thanks for sharing your mom's experience. That's really helpful to hear it worked well for her. I'm leaning toward doing the same thing.
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Lucas Lindsey
I had the EXACT same situation last year when my husband died, except I was 61. SS survivor benefits are CONFUSING! If your own benefit will be higher at FRA, then yes, you should take the survivor now and switch later. But be careful because once you apply for your own retirement benefits you can't go back to survivors later. And that $255 death benefit is a joke - hasn't been increased since like the 1950s!
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Mason Stone
•Thank you for the warning about not being able to go back to survivor benefits once I switch to my own. That's a really important point I hadn't considered!
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Sophie Duck
Good luck getting someone on the phone at SSA! I tried for 3 weeks after my spouse died and kept getting disconnected. The 800 number is useless nowadays. You'll probably need to just go to your local office in person.
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Austin Leonard
•I went through the same frustration until I found this service called Claimyr that gets you through to SSA without the wait. It worked really well for me when I needed to sort out my widow benefits. You should check out their video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - their website is claimyr.com. Saved me hours of frustration and I got through to a representative in minutes instead of days of trying.
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Anita George
I'm in my 60s and learned something new from this post! I thought if you took survivers it meant you couldn't get your own SS later. The whole system is designed to be complicated on purpose if you ask me. My SIL worked for SSA for 30 years and even she got confused sometimes lol.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•That's a common misunderstanding! With survivor benefits, you CAN take them early and switch to your own later. It's spouse benefits that follow different rules under the 2015 law changes. People mix these up all the time, but they're treated very differently by SSA.
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Makayla Shoemaker
One more important point: the survivor benefit you'll receive is actually based on what your husband was entitled to when he died. Since he had already filed early at 62, your survivor benefit will be limited to the larger of: 1) what he was receiving, or 2) 82.5% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). This is known as the RIB-LIM rule. Make sure to ask the SSA representative about this specifically.
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Mason Stone
•Thank you for this detail. I had no idea about the RIB-LIM rule. So his early filing at 62 will affect what I can get as a survivor? That's important to know before my call.
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Emma Olsen
my neighbor got survivors benefits and worked part time and it reduced her check because she was under FRA. theres an earnings limit around $19000 i think? just something to know if you're still working
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Makayla Shoemaker
•That's correct. For 2025, if you're under your FRA and receiving any Social Security benefits (including survivor benefits), the annual earnings limit is $22,680. SSA deducts $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. Once you reach FRA, there's no earnings limit.
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Christian Bierman
Just a tip - when you apply for survivor benefits, they'll ask about your marriage date since it had to be at least 9 months to qualify (with some exceptions). You said you're just short of 32 years, so that's WAY more than enough, but be prepared with the exact date. They're STICKLERS for documentation so bring extra copies of everything!
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Mason Stone
•I have our marriage certificate ready! Thanks for the reminder about documentation. I'll bring extra copies of everything just to be safe.
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