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One more thing I should mention - make sure you understand that if you're filing after your Full Retirement Age (which it sounds like you are since you mentioned being 67), you're eligible for up to 6 months of retroactive benefits before your application month. So if you apply in February 2025, you could potentially get benefits dating back to August 2024. This is something they should ask you about during the application process, but sometimes they don't clearly explain it. If you want those retroactive benefits, make sure to specifically request them. If you don't want the retroactive benefits (some people prefer to have a higher monthly amount instead), you can decline them.

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This is so helpful! I had no idea about the 6 months retroactive option. I'll definitely request that since I could really use the lump sum right now. Thank you!

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My sister just went through this in December. She applied right before Thanksgiving and just got her first payment last week! They did backpay her for December and January though so thats something to look forward to. She said the online tracker thingy never updated either so don't rely on that.

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Thanks for sharing your sister's recent experience. That's about what I was expecting - a few months of processing time. Good to know about the tracker not updating too.

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One thing to consider is that even with the WEP reduction, it still might make financial sense to claim at 64 rather than waiting, depending on your health and financial situation. I ran calculations for myself and found that the break-even point where waiting until FRA made sense was around 82 years old. So if you don't expect to live past that age, taking it earlier could give you more lifetime benefits even with the WEP reduction. Just something to think about.

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That's an interesting perspective. I'm in good health and longevity runs in my family, so I'm leaning toward waiting. But you're right - I should actually run the numbers for my specific situation to find that break-even point. Did you use a specific calculator for that analysis?

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I used Excel and created my own spreadsheet. I took the monthly benefit amount after WEP at different claiming ages, multiplied by 12 for annual amount, and then calculated cumulative benefits for each year of life. The point where the lines crossed was my break-even age. There are also online calculators but most don't account for WEP properly.

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do u know if u paid into SS for those govt jobs? some govt jobs do pay into SS so maybe WEP wont affect u?? just checkin

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Good question - I know for certain my state government position did NOT pay into Social Security (we had a separate pension system instead). That's why I'm concerned about WEP. If I had paid into SS for those years, you're right that WEP wouldn't apply.

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has she checked out the state medicaid? my sister got on that while waiting for disability and it covered all her heart meds and doctor visits. the income limits are pretty low but if shes not working much might qualify???

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This is good advice. Medicaid eligibility varies by state, but it's definitely worth checking. Some states have expanded Medicaid coverage for adults with limited income. There are also prescription assistance programs like GoodRx or NeedyMeds that might help reduce medication costs significantly.

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To address your question about whether she should have avoided applying for retirement: Unfortunately, that's a complicated cost-benefit analysis everyone in this situation needs to make individually. Pros of taking early retirement during SSDI appeal: - Immediate income - Possible Medicare eligibility after 24 months Cons: - Permanently reduced benefits if SSDI claim ultimately fails - Slightly complicates the disability case There's no clear right answer. About 45% of SSDI claims are approved at the ALJ hearing level, but that means many are still denied. The backlog for hearings is currently 12-18 months in most areas. If her condition is deteriorating without proper medical care, getting treatment through work insurance might actually strengthen her case by documenting her conditions better. Just make sure she doesn't push herself to the point of serious harm trying to maintain a job she truly cannot do.

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That makes sense. I think at this point, her priority has to be getting the cardiac care she needs. Hopefully, the documentation from these new doctor visits will actually strengthen her case by showing how serious her condition is. Thank you for the balanced perspective.

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dont worry bout it. ssa always gets it right eventually. my record was showing $1200 for months last year when id made like $22k. fixed itself by december

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r u sure?? i heard from my cousin that if the wrong amount stays on ur record it messes up ur future benefits forever!

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I see a lot of confusion in this thread about earnings records. To clarify: 1) Employers report wages to SSA quarterly 2) Processing takes time, especially for paper filings 3) The MySocialSecurity portal updates irregularly 4) Complete 2024 earnings won't finalize until mid-2025 5) Small amounts like $646 are typically partial reports 6) This won't affect your future benefits as long as complete W-2 information is eventually processed If you're within 3 years of retirement, I'd recommend requesting an official earnings record by mail to verify everything is accurate for the years that actually count toward your benefit calculation.

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This is really helpful, thank you. I'm about 20 years from retirement, so I guess I don't need to worry about this partial 2024 reporting. I'll keep an eye on it though!

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Wait a minute - has anyone mentioned the impact on taxes here? When my wife started collecting her retirement on top of my SSDI, it pushed our combined income into a higher tax bracket and suddenly 85% of my SSDI became taxable! The extra benefit amount wasn't worth the tax hit. Make sure to consider the tax implications before you get excited about any potential increase!

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Based on the numbers you shared, let's do a quick calculation: If your husband's benefit at his full retirement age (before any delayed retirement credits) is around $2,800, then 50% of that would be $1,400. Since your current SSDI is $1,650, which is higher than the $1,400 spousal benefit you might be eligible for, you likely won't receive any additional amount through dual entitlement. However, these are just estimates. Your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) might be different from his actual benefit if he's delaying past full retirement age. I'd still recommend applying for the spousal benefit once he files, just to make sure you don't miss out on any potential increase.

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Thank you for working through those numbers! That's really helpful to see the actual calculation. You're right that we won't know the exact amounts until he actually files, but at least now I have a better understanding of how it works and what to expect.

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