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One additional point I should have mentioned: Since you'll reach your FRA on 1/1/2026, which is less than a year away, you might consider requesting a temporary lower repayment amount until then. Once you reach FRA, the earnings test no longer applies, and you might have more income flexibility to handle a higher repayment amount. This could be a compromise position if they resist returning to the $145 amount.

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That's a really smart approach! I hadn't thought about proposing a temporary reduction. Since it's only about 11 months until my FRA, they might be more willing to work with me on a short-term basis. Thank you for this suggestion!

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wait i just realized something - if ur ex passed away recently shouldn't you be getting more money not less? my aunt got survivor benefits and it was way more than her own SS check

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This is a good point, but it depends on several factors. Since the original poster is taking survivor benefits before FRA, they'll be reduced. At their current age, they'd receive approximately 79-82% of the deceased ex-spouse's full benefit. Also, if their own retirement benefit is higher than the reduced survivor benefit, they won't see an increase. Additionally, if they were receiving retirement benefits early and switch to reduced survivor benefits, there's a separate calculation called the RIB-LIM that might further affect the amount. This is definitely something they should clarify with SSA.

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my uncle had everything process automatic 2 but then got letter 4 months later saying they overpaid him $3200!!! make sure u save some money just in case they come back later and say oops we made mistake

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Oh no, that's concerning. I'll definitely keep that in mind and be careful about spending. Did your uncle have to pay it all back at once?

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ya he did but i think u can set up payment plan if that happens 2 u. just saying be careful cuz SS makes mistakes sometimes

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Just to provide a complete answer: The SSA automatically processes survivor benefits in situations where: 1. Both spouses were receiving benefits 2. The marriage is properly documented in SSA records 3. The death is reported through official channels (funeral homes, vital records) The process includes: - Payment of the one-time $255 death benefit - Adjustment to the higher of the two benefit amounts You should verify that your new monthly amount equals what your wife was receiving. If her benefit was higher than yours, you'll now receive that amount instead of your own benefit. The only reason you might need to contact SSA is if: - Your new benefit amount seems incorrect - You have eligible dependents who might qualify for survivor benefits - You need to update other information (banking, address, etc.) Otherwise, the automatic processing you experienced is working as designed and is becoming more common as SSA improves their systems.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. This is exactly what happened in my case - both conditions you mentioned were met, and the new amount does match what my wife was receiving. It's reassuring to know the system is working as designed.

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my nephew works for SS and says always wait till ur actual FRA month to file unless u really need the money now. something about actuarial calculations favoring the later date even if by just a month or 2.

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Your nephew is right about the actuarial calculations. Each month of retroactive benefits reduces the monthly amount by approximately 0.5%. While this sounds small, over a 20+ year retirement, that can add up to thousands of dollars. The break-even point (where waiting for the higher amount pays off) is typically around 10-12 years for most people.

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To add some specific numbers to this discussion: If your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) at 67 is $3,000 for example, taking benefits 2 months early (November instead of January) would reduce it by about 1% to approximately $2,970 per month. That's $30 less every month for life. However, he would receive two extra payments of $2,970 (about $5,940 total). The break-even point would be around 198 months (16.5 years). If he lives longer than that, waiting until January would provide more lifetime benefits. Also remember that any future COLAs will be calculated on the lower base amount if he takes retroactive benefits. As others have suggested, getting the exact calculations from SSA for your specific situation is the best approach.

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Thank you so much for doing that math! That really puts it in perspective. Since his family tends to be pretty long-lived (his parents both made it to their mid-90s), it probably makes more sense to wait for the January start date. I appreciate everyone's help with this decision!

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Just to offer another perspective - the SSA is COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED with applications right now specifically because of the Fairness Act changes. Thousands of government pensioners who previously wouldn't qualify for spousal benefits are now applying all at once. I work with several retired teachers who've been dealing with this exact situation. The system wasn't prepared for this volume of GPO-affected applications requiring manual review. The most efficient approach is to: 1. Wait 4 weeks from your original application date 2. If you haven't heard anything, try to speak with someone (good luck with that) 3. If you can't get through by phone, schedule an in-person appointment 4. Bring ALL documentation showing your pension amount, when it started, and proof of your marriage The specialists who handle these calculations are backlogged about 10-12 weeks right now, so patience is unfortunately necessary.

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Ev Luca

Thank you for explaining that. I had no idea they were so backlogged with these applications. That makes me feel a little better that it's not just my application getting lost. I'll try to be patient, but it's so frustrating not knowing if they're even processing it correctly.

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My wife just went through this! Retired nurse with state pension applying for spousal on my record. Got the EXACT same email as you - the "not enough credits" one with no mention of spousal benefits. She panicked and reapplied which was a HUGE mistake!!! Basically reset the clock after already waiting 6 weeks. If I could offer one piece of advice: DO NOT REAPPLY! What worked for us was going to the local office in person. They confirmed her original application was being processed correctly despite the misleading email. Took another 5 weeks after that visit but she finally got approved last month.

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Ev Luca

That's really helpful to know. Was her benefit reduced a lot because of her pension? I'm trying to estimate what I might actually receive with the new rules.

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Her pension is $3,100/month and she's getting about $490/month in spousal benefits. Under the old rules she would've gotten nothing, so we're actually thrilled! The calculation is complicated - depends on how much your pension is.

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My neighbor was in this exact situation (teacher married to private sector worker) and was told by their financial guy the repeal was

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That's exactly what I was worried about. I'll definitely make sure they understand this isn't guaranteed so they can plan realistically. Thank you for sharing your neighbor's experience.

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