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One more thing to consider - if you're enrolling in Medicare at the same time, that starts the first day of your birthday month (July). So if you apply for both SS and Medicare together in March, your Medicare will begin July 1 regardless of when your SS benefits start. Just something to keep in mind for your overall retirement transition planning.
Just wanted to add one more option you might consider - COBRA health insurance coverage. Since you're retiring at 65 and will be eligible for Medicare starting July 1st, you could potentially use COBRA to bridge your health insurance from July 1st until Medicare kicks in, which gives you more flexibility with your SS timing. Also, don't forget that you can change your mind about your SS start date up until the month before benefits begin, so if you apply in March for July benefits but your situation changes, you still have some wiggle room in your planning.
my mom went thru something similar and she hired a financial advisor who specializes in SS to help her... maybe thats an option? it cost like $300 but saved her thousands in the long run because the SSA people kept telling her different things every time she called!! i mean you'll get decent advice here but a professional might be worth it for such a big decision
That's not a bad idea at all! Do you know what type of professional your mom used? Was it a financial advisor or someone who specifically specializes in Social Security?
Another resource worth checking is the Social Security Administration's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) - it's their internal manual that's publicly available online. Section GN 00305.125 specifically covers survivor benefit applications and the ability to switch between benefits. I'd also suggest contacting your local Area Agency on Aging - they often have counselors trained in Social Security benefits who can provide free guidance. They're usually more knowledgeable about these complex scenarios than the general SSA staff. Given your past experience with SSA giving incorrect information, I'd recommend getting any promises or benefit calculations in writing before making your final decision. Ask them to provide a written estimate showing both your survivor benefit amount and your projected retirement benefit at 70, so you can make an informed comparison.
Has your wife checked her earnings record on the SSA website? It's good to verify that all her past work is properly credited before she adds new earnings. Sometimes there are errors, especially if she had name changes after marriage, etc. Make sure all her previous work is counting toward her future benefit.
I went through something similar when my husband started receiving early retirement benefits and I was considering part-time work. One thing that really helped us was using the SSA's online earnings test calculator to estimate the impact before I started working. You can find it on their website under "Retirement Estimator" tools. It lets you input different income scenarios to see exactly how it would affect benefits. Also, keep detailed records of all her paychecks and hours worked - if there's ever a discrepancy with SSA later, having your own documentation makes resolving it much easier. The annual limit resets each January, so if she starts mid-year, she has less time to reach that $22,320 threshold.
Update: I just finished applying! Took about 25 minutes total. They definitely ask for bank info for direct deposit. The site says they'll process my application and send me a letter with their decision. Fingers crossed I'll get March benefits since I applied before the end of the month! The reduction amount works out to about $160 less per month than if I waited until November, but that's fine with me. I'd rather have 8 months of slightly reduced payments than no payments at all during that time. Thanks everyone for your help!
Congrats on getting your application submitted! That's a smart move applying before month-end. Just wanted to add a couple things that might be helpful: 1. You can track your application status through your mySocialSecurity account - there's usually an "Application Status" section that gets updated as they process it. 2. If you don't hear anything within 2-3 weeks, don't hesitate to call the SSA number (1-800-772-1213) to check on status. Sometimes applications get held up for minor reasons that can be resolved quickly with a phone call. 3. Make sure to keep copies of everything you submitted, including screenshots of your completed application if possible. You made the right choice for your situation - having income now vs waiting for a slightly higher amount later is totally valid, especially since you'll still be collecting for many years to come. Best of luck with the approval!
Ethan Wilson
For 2025, the IRMAA thresholds for Medicare Part B and D start at $103,000 for single filers. Based on your income estimates (SS + FERS + 401k), you'll be below that threshold so you should pay the standard premium. But it's good to be aware of this for future planning, especially if you decide to take larger 401k distributions later.
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Elin Robinson
I'm just starting to research this topic as I'm approaching retirement age myself. This thread has been incredibly helpful! One question I have - if you're already receiving Social Security benefits and realize you need to start withholding taxes, can you submit the W-4V form at any time during the year, or do you have to wait until the next calendar year? I want to make sure I don't get caught off guard like some of the stories shared here.
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Taylor To
•You can submit the W-4V form at any time during the year - you don't have to wait! I submitted mine in the middle of the tax year when I realized I needed withholding, and it took effect within a few weeks. The SSA will start withholding from your next payment cycle after they process the form. It's definitely better to start withholding mid-year than to get hit with a big tax bill in April. Just make sure to account for the partial year when calculating how much to withhold.
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