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Miguel Silva

Working in 2025 while collecting Social Security before FRA - earnings limit question

I'm really confused about how the earnings limit works when you're still working before Full Retirement Age. My FRA is December 2025 when I turn 67, but I'm considering starting SS benefits around February 2025 (when I'll be 66). My current annual salary is around $70,000, but I know there's that $62,160 earnings limit for 2025. I'm trying to figure out if this plan makes sense: Work from January through October 2025, collecting my regular income, but also start receiving SS benefits in February. Then quit my job once I approach the $62,160 limit to avoid any benefit reductions. Would this work? Or should I just wait until December when I hit my FRA and then retire and start collecting without worrying about the earnings limit? I feel like I'm missing something important here... any advice would be so appreciated!

Your thinking is on the right track! Yes, you can collect SS benefits while working before your FRA, but you need to understand exactly how the earnings limit works. For 2025, the limit is $62,160 for people reaching FRA that year. For every $3 you earn over that limit, $1 is withheld from your benefits, but ONLY in the months before you reach FRA. Your strategy of working until you hit the threshold could work, but remember two things: 1) The earnings test is based on your annual earnings, even if you stop working partway through the year, and 2) Any benefits withheld aren't lost forever - you'll get them back in increased monthly payments after you reach FRA.

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Thank you for explaining! So if I understand correctly, even if I stop working in October, they'll still count my TOTAL 2025 earnings against that limit? That's what I was missing. So if I've already earned $62,160 by October and then start benefits, I'd still face reductions?

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ppl overthink this stuff tbh... i started my SS at 65 last yr while still working. they just held back some of my payments for a few months and then started paying me. not a big deal. the money isnt lost, they adjust ur payment later. just do what works for u

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This is partially true but misleading. Yes, SSA will adjust your benefit later, but the timing matters A LOT financially. Starting early with significant earnings can mean substantial temporary reductions that take years to recoup through the post-FRA adjustment. Each person's optimal strategy depends on their specific financial needs, life expectancy, and other income sources.

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The earnings limit applies to your earnings BEFORE the month you reach FRA. It sounds like your FRA is December 2025, so the $62,160 limit applies to your earnings from January through November 2025. If you earn the full $70,000 in that period, you'd be $7,840 over the limit. That means about $2,613 would be withheld from your benefits ($7,840 ÷ 3). BUT! Here's what I learned when I went through this: SSA doesn't apply the earnings test in the month you reach FRA or any month after that. So if you can arrange to earn most of your income in December 2025, that income won't count toward the limit at all. Have you tried calling SSA to discuss your specific situation? I spent weeks trying to get through until someone told me about Claimyr.com - it got me connected to a real person at SSA in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent I spoke with helped me understand exactly how the earnings test would affect my specific situation.

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That's really helpful information, thank you! I hadn't considered timing my income that way. Unfortunately, I don't think I could shift much of my earnings to December due to how our company pays us. I've been trying to call SSA for two weeks with no luck - I'll check out that service you mentioned. Did they need a lot of personal information to connect you?

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They just needed basic info to connect me with SSA. The agent I spoke with walked me through my specific dates and earnings to calculate exactly how the earnings test would affect me. Much easier than trying to figure it out myself!

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WAIT until FRA!!! I started 4 months early and REGRET IT!!! They withheld EVERYTHING for 2 months because I went over the limit by accident. They don't tell you how complicated this is until it's TOO LATE!!! 😡

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Exactly what happened to my sister! She didn't realize her severance package counted as earnings and had her benefits completely withheld for several months. The SSA isn't very clear about explaining all of this upfront.

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My situation was similar to yours last year. I turned 67 (my FRA) in November 2024. What I did was reduce my hours at work from January-October to stay under the limit, collected reduced SS payments during that time, then went back to full-time in November when I hit FRA. No more earnings limit to worry about! The partial benefits plus partial salary worked well for me - kind of like a gradual retirement. Something to consider.

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That's a great idea! I wonder if my employer would let me go part-time for those months. I'll definitely ask about that option. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Looking at your specific dates, here's what I recommend analyzing: 1. If you work Jan-Oct earning $58,333 ($70k × 10/12), you'd be under the annual limit and could collect full SS benefits starting in February. 2. If you work Jan-Nov earning $64,167 ($70k × 11/12), you'd exceed the limit by $2,007, resulting in a $669 total withholding ($2,007 ÷ 3). 3. If you wait until your FRA in December to claim, you'd collect one month of benefits in 2025 without any reduction, but you'd miss out on 10 months of payments. The key calculation: Will 10-11 months of slightly reduced benefits in 2025 provide more value than waiting until FRA and getting a slightly higher monthly amount forever? For most people, taking benefits in February even with potential reductions would provide more total lifetime benefits unless you expect to live well into your 90s. The break-even age is typically around 82-83 years for this scenario.

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Thank you for breaking it down with real numbers! This really helps me see the options clearly. I hadn't considered reducing my hours like another commenter suggested, but that plus your calculations gives me a much better picture of my options. I think I'll go ahead with starting benefits in February but try to manage my income to stay under the limit.

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One more important thing to consider - are you still contributing to a 401(k) or other tax-deferred retirement account? If so, those contributions reduce your countable income for the earnings test. So if you're making $70,000 but contributing $8,000 to a 401(k), your countable earnings would only be $62,000 - under the limit! This is a strategy many people overlook.

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That's brilliant! Yes, I do have a 401(k) and I'm not maxing it out currently. I could definitely increase my contributions for those months to stay under the limit. Thank you so much for this tip!

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I went through a very similar situation in 2023! One thing that really helped me was creating a month-by-month earnings tracker to make sure I stayed under the limit. Since you're planning to start benefits in February, you'll want to be extra careful about tracking your cumulative earnings from January forward. Also, don't forget that the earnings limit only applies to W-2 wages and self-employment income - it doesn't include things like pension payments, investment income, or rental income. So if you have any other income sources, those won't count against your $62,160 limit. The 401(k) contribution strategy that Zainab mentioned is gold! I increased my contributions by about $10,000 that year specifically to stay under the earnings limit, and it worked perfectly. Just make sure your payroll department processes the contribution changes quickly enough to affect your early paychecks. One last tip: Keep detailed records of everything. SSA sometimes makes mistakes in calculating earnings, and having your own documentation makes resolving any issues much faster. Good luck with whatever you decide!

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to create that monthly earnings tracker you mentioned - that sounds like a smart way to stay on top of things. And you're absolutely right about keeping detailed records. I learned that lesson the hard way with other government benefits in the past. Quick question - when you increased your 401(k) contributions, did you spread the increase evenly throughout the year or front-load it in the early months? I'm wondering if it makes more sense to maximize the contributions right away while I'm still working full-time, or if there are any downsides to that approach I should consider.

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Great question about the 401(k) timing! I actually front-loaded mine in the first few months of the year for a couple of reasons. First, it gave me immediate reduction in my countable earnings right when I was starting SS benefits, so I didn't have to worry about accidentally going over the limit early in the year. Second, it meant my money had more time in the market to grow. The main downside to consider is cash flow - front-loading means bigger deductions from your paychecks early on, so make sure you can handle the reduced take-home pay. Also, if your employer has a matching program, you want to make sure you don't max out so early that you miss out on matching contributions for later paychecks (some employers do "true-up" contributions at year-end, but not all). In your case, since you're planning to potentially reduce hours or stop working in October anyway, front-loading the 401(k) contributions in January through maybe June or July could be a really smart move. Just run the numbers to make sure the reduced paychecks won't create any cash flow issues for you.

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